"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Exit plan from gf

Fireballs

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Basically I need 6 months to sort out a financial purchase we made (going to give her the half she paid so I can keep the item) so when I break it off I won't have to talk to her ever again. If we didn't make this purchase together I would have left by now but I don't want any loose ends.

Thing is it seems her interest is declining.. She's calling less often/texts are less enthusiastic/less eager to see me (I work away)/less affection (still have sex)/sh!t testing more... My gut is telling me there's another guy in the picture. I don't think it's sexual but I get the feeling there's some emotional cheating going on. I have access to her fb/phone and am weighing up whether to verify.

It's a tricky situation where my ego is taking a hit from her declining interest even though I want to leave her.

I'm not sure how to handle things from here.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Idk i'm no expert by any means but my gut and intuition has never let me down. I'd verify it on her phone then jump ship without making a big ruckus.
 

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Basically I need 6 months to sort out a financial purchase we made (going to give her the half she paid so I can keep the item) so when I break it off I won't have to talk to her ever again. If we didn't make this purchase together I would have left by now but I don't want any loose ends.

Thing is it seems her interest is declining.. She's calling less often/texts are less enthusiastic/less eager to see me (I work away)/less affection (still have sex)/sh!t testing more... My gut is telling me there's another guy in the picture. I don't think it's sexual but I get the feeling there's some emotional cheating going on. I have access to her fb/phone and am weighing up whether to verify.

It's a tricky situation where my ego is taking a hit from her declining interest even though I want to leave her.

I'm not sure how to handle things from here.
She might be getting used to you and you guys might've been talking too much. Maybe you already "have" her so she isn't acting like it's all new.

I'd verify before pulling the plug. When people get used to you, their super excitedness behind you will drop. However you'd get a strong reaction if she knew you where around another female.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Fireballs

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What is this item you have to live in hell for the next 6 months? Is it really worth it?
It's a boat we went halves in so yeah it's worth it as I got it custom built.

Thinking of moving out like it used to be but I know that won't go down well. Is an option though.
 

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I would definitely check out her phone and fb. If you don't want to be with her anymore, then get out as soon as you can.
Checking her phone puts you in the ranks of betas; plus it gives her free reign to call you a 'stalker' and 'creep' and activate various feminized social conventions designed to ruin you.

Better to just do what needs to be done. Be forceful but diplomatic.
 

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Checking her phone puts you in the ranks of betas
I disagree. It's only a "beta" move if you find her doing something bad, confront her about it, and beg her to stop doing it.

The more you know about her, the better you can adjust your life and your plans accordingly. If she's truly a good woman, you won't find anything interesting. If she's been misbehaving, she should be dumped.

It's a boat we went halves in so yeah it's worth it as I got it custom built.
NEVER go halvsies on major purchases with a woman, unless you're willing to throw it away when the relationship turns sour. If you wanted the boat, you should've saved up the cash and bought it yourself. Going halvsies gives her power.
 

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I disagree. It's only a "beta" move if you find her doing something bad, confront her about it, and beg her to stop doing it.

The more you know about her, the better you can adjust your life and your plans accordingly. If she's truly a good woman, you won't find anything interesting. If she's been misbehaving, she should be dumped.
Looking for something at all shows lack of game. For starters, a Don Juan doesn't care what she does, he's too busy warding off other women.

And you're also failing to admit that all women are spinning plates. Accepting reality means there's nothing on her phone that will surprise you.
 

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Looking for something at all shows lack of game.
Looking for something shows that you're not willing to waste time and money on a bad investment. Game cannot change the core values of a woman. If she's rotten in the core and you don't bother to check, you might as well set each of your paychecks on fire for your stupidity to place trust in something you know nothing about.

a Don Juan doesn't care what she does
A Don Juan cares about the things he invests his time and money into, and invests those things wisely.

he's too busy warding off other women.
Have you ever actually "warded off" women? It takes little time and effort. There are always other women interested in me. All I do is give them a number and let them get in line. If my current GF is worth my time and money, those other chicks will just keep waiting in line. If I find out my current chick has rotten core values, there might be a better one waiting in line.

Checking her phone and FB isn't to see if she's cheating so you can confront her with an ultimatum, it's to gauge her value for your investment. If she's fvcking around, should you invest more time and money in her? Would you rather invest time and money into a woman who's fvcking around on you without your knowledge?

And you're also failing to admit that all women are spinning plates.
If she's spinning plates, then you should be as well. Keep yourself on the same level as her. If she wants to be exclusive, then the plate spinning should end and you should be making that clear.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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NEVER go halvsies on major purchases with a woman, unless you're willing to throw it away when the relationship turns sour. If you wanted the boat, you should've saved up the cash and bought it yourself. Going halvsies gives her power.
Yeah I was blinded by finally getting my dream boat. Going to give her what she put in so it's legally mine only. Then bail.
 

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Checking her phone puts you in the ranks of betas; plus it gives her free reign to call you a 'stalker' and 'creep' and activate various feminized social conventions designed to ruin you.

Better to just do what needs to be done. Be forceful but diplomatic.
Sorry, but I agree with Des. I don't think there is anything wrong with checking the phone as long as she doesn't know and you don't confront her. If your checking a plates phone, that's different. But, if it's an ltr, you need to know what she's up to.
 

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Why can't you move on, sign a written agreement to take the boat and make automatic monthly bank transfers to her account, until you have paid her/the boat off? Automatic transfers require no regular contact. She sees the money in her account every month and is happy you kept your word and she does not have to worry about it. Clearly it is your dream boat. I imagine she is not going to want to be stuck with it or the hassle of having to sell it. She'll probably be relieved you want it and are going to pay her for her part.

Six months is a big chunk of life to be around someone who you don't really want to be with. No matter how you work it, it is usually a big energy drain. You could be living your life in a way that makes you happy.

Is the issue really about the finances and the boat, or are you just not ready to call it quits with her yet?
Asked for a pay rise and got one this week. If I budget strictly I can have her money in 2 months.
 

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Get a small loan that you can pay off quickly. Drop her half on the table and scoot.

If you want out, never stay with a chick longer than you should. That is hell.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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