"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do some girls just love pain/drama?

Groverz

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I am noticing some girls seem to like to stay in situations full of pain and drama. Either because of Family or friends or exs. I can see some of them with the option to get out of it all and start some things over yet they just want to stay there and *****.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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marmel75

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I am noticing some girls seem to like to stay in situations full of pain and drama. Either because of Family or friends or exs. I can see some of them with the option to get out of it all and start some things over yet they just want to stay there and *****.
Yes because pain/drama cause powerful emotions. Powerful emotions are like a natural high for women. Its like crack. Some women get addicted to them, and even thought they know its bad for them, they can't stop themselves from being around it.
 

dustmuffin

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It's not just women.

Look at 75% of what's written on SoSuave.
Yep....was thinking about this today. Wo.end are drama. Don't get caught up in it. I am doing my best to purge my emotions. I was thinking about a thread to be called don't be a ***** or you might be a ***** if....emotions mostly are for women. Its funny bevause once your emotions get out of control it takes for ever to reel them in. All it takes is a break up. You have to be ready emotionally for anything. Dont be a slacker.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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