What happened to the Ones?

[CuddleJunkie]

So I've been reading through the Bible and the Book of Pook and I have noticed that back in the day people in this board had a much more optimist view about women. Sure, there was no One, but there were many quality ones to settle with, some time in the future.

Now there is a much more nihilistic and pessimistic consensus. What happened? It's maybe the new influx of guys due to TheRedPill subreddit? A lot of the terminology you guys use now in the board comes from there, but in the Bible days you had your own words to categorize the elements of the sexual dinamic.

So we could say that this change of perspective is because of us the new guys, but I'm seeing this in the oldies too. Maybe the long time posters can offer some insight in this transformation.

 

[Huffman]

Funny, huh?

I do remember that "back then", around 2007, it was a total PUA fest. Everybody was advising you to wear Fedoras, read palms and play stupid games.
Around that time, a religious devotion to Pook was also on the rise, contrasting PUA with "DJ"ing, saying you should make yourself into a great man and then you wouldn't need any openers or tactics.

There was alot of negative stuff back then as well. It's funny how Pook evolved into a woman-hating guy, and everybody was kinda surprised by it.

 

[Tictac]

I never got the whole 'women are worthless', 'men are better' thing. There are a few misogynists here and a lot of guys that take their weak game out on women. It's sort of funny that some men bust on women for being so picky while guys talk about anything less than. '7' on some imaginary scale as leash worthy. Hypocritical or just unaware of the humor in it? Who knows?

Men and women are surely different. But I've always had the idea that we were and are complementary and that's treated me well (except for that catastrophic divorce thing). Even hypergamy is understandable. I don't like it. But I get it. If you want to fish, best to understand fish and the water they live in rather than blame fish for being fish and living in the water.

 

[Misrah]

I think people use misogynistic views, and viewpoints to mask their poor game, or poor self worth. Instead of being a man, and improving yourself and your game- its a lazy and easy trap to fall into victimization ploys. Its all the big bad girls ext ext.

Personally i love women. I lust after them all of the time, and hardly any of them truly wrong me. I eject far before anything like that would ever happen in the first place. Women are the same as men just with a few diffences

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I love women in a sexual way, but not in a worshipping put them on a pedestal, they are my whole world way. Women are like good food. There is no such thing as the one, that is a childish way to look at the male/female dynamic and doesn't make sense. With that said I hate women mentally, they lack personality and thoughtful conversations and act like spoiled little kids

 

[CuddleJunkie]

Pook evolved into a woman hating guy? I can't believe it after reading the book.

I think people use misogynistic views, and viewpoints to mask their poor game, or poor self worth. Instead of being a man, and improving yourself and your game- its a lazy and easy trap to fall into victimization ploys. Its all the big bad girls ext ext.

Personally i love women. I lust after them all of the time, and hardly any of them truly wrong me. I eject far before anything like that would ever happen in the first place. Women are the same as men just with a few diffences

Many guys use these views as excuses, of that I'm sure, but I think a lot of men protest against the legal treatment that our societies give to women. It's not that much bitching about women being women (hypergamy, don't giving two ****s about you, etc), I think is more about society giving everything to women for free.

 

[stevo]

I'll tell you one thing.

Legalize prostitution and find the women "attitude/craziness" fixed.

Insight into the transformation?
ok here goes.

Back then the guys hoped for a better future. They understood things were getting worse compared to early 90s and late 80s so they hope later on in the 2000s men would be financially well off (if they chase their passion and goals) and would naturally attract beauties (because men are attracted to hotties and women are attracted to money).

No one knew then that Tinder,OKC,POF and all their siblings would come to exist, further decreasing morals while sky rocketing the available prospects for women.

Funny enough the eHarmony guy says recent survey shows that most young women go on average of 100 dates before they settle with a guy. I'll tell you something else none of the old guys saw that one coming.

Most men on here do not hate women, they are just two wise to fall for just any woman.

Once you recognize sheet tests, your life is never the same.

 

[Misrah]

Pook evolved into a woman hating guy? I can't believe it after reading the book.

Many guys use these views as excuses, of that I'm sure, but I think a lot of men protest against the legal treatment that our societies give to women. It's not that much *****ing about women being women (hypergamy, don't giving two ****s about you, etc), I think is more about society giving everything to women for free.

What does society give them for free?

I will agree that marriage is heavily tipped in their favor ( or who ever has less to lose financially) i knew a few girls who married deadbeats and after the divorce are getting really screwed.

Girls do care about you, just date the right ones.

 

[dustmuffin]

I'm kind of hating on women right now. I attribute it to a break up and discovering the redbpill. I will get over it. I might be angry with them but I will still **** them.

 

[Misrah]

I'll tell you one thing.

Legalize prostitution and find the women "attitude/craziness" fixed.

Insight into the transformation?
ok here goes.

Back then the guys hoped for a better future. They understood things were getting worse compared to early 90s and late 80s so they hope later on in the 2000s men would be financially well off (if they chase their passion and goals) and would naturally attract beauties (because men are attracted to hotties and women are attracted to money).

No one knew then that Tinder,OKC,POF and all their siblings would come to exist, further decreasing morals while sky rocketing the available prospects for women.

Funny enough the eHarmony guy says recent survey shows that women go on average of 100 dates before they settle with a guy. I'll tell you something else none of the old guys saw that one coming.

Most men on here do not hate women, they are just two wise to fall for just any woman.

Once you recognize sheet tests, your life is never the same.

I completely disagree with the majority of this post. Legalized prostitution has nothing to do with this conversation.

 

[NSX-R]

One of my personal favorites was the book of pook.

You are absolutely right, i read some times the dj bible and I come back here on the discussion forums and it's like 2 different things.
The quality of every new thread keeps on falling as time goes in my opinion.

 

[stevo]

I completely disagree with the majority of this post. Legalized prostitution has nothing to do with this conversation.

Are you male or female?

 

[Misrah]

Are you male or female?

Male.

 

[CuddleJunkie]

stevo:
Yeah, it's crazy how easy is for a woman to get attention/**** in a matter of minutes thanks to this apps/websites. So basically this change of tone is a consequence of the further decline of the morals of our society? It seems like we are just adapting every passing year to whatever state women happen to be. It's depressing, I mean, I get it, we still want to get ***** so we'll adapt, but I wonder if it would be possible to start changing the balance in our favor. Although I'm not optimist at the respect.

Misrah:
At least in Spain they can **** with a man's life in a matter of hours, saying that he hit them, without needing any proves. Luckily a new political party that is in the rise wants to change this. And there are more things, like their right to cheat with society "understanding what she's going through and how it is not easy", or hundreds of other things.

NSX-R:
Just look at this thread called something like "Why frame is bull****". It's like we are already accepting defeat. People don't want anymore to change things, they are too tired to do it. I'm not blaming them tho, I completly understand the feeling, but the moment you stop fighting I don't see what else you can do in life.

 

[Misrah]

Cuddles: girls taking men to court, and walking out with false convictions is the HUGE exception, not the rule. You ate more likely to be struck by lightning. I think that this is a poor argument.

 

[CuddleJunkie]

Cuddles: girls taking men to court, and walking out with false convictions is the HUGE exception, not the rule. You ate more likely to be struck by lightning. I think that this is a poor argument.

Not in Spain: http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/02/09/espana/1265719274.html
It says: 80% of sentences for "genre violence" condemn the aggressor. I have two family members in the police and they are convinced about a huge percentage of the reports being false.

 

[stevo]

stevo:
Yeah, it's crazy how easy is for a woman to get attention/**** in a matter of minutes thanks to this apps/websites. So basically this change of tone is a consequence of the further decline of the morals of our society? It seems like we are just adapting every passing year to whatever state women happen to be. It's depressing, I mean, I get it, we still want to get ***** so we'll adapt, but I wonder if it would be possible to start changing the balance in our favor. Although I'm not optimist at the respect.

Women are great long term game players. They will continue to chip and chip at a man's integrity till he doesn't know the difference between what he wants and what he thinks his woman would want him to want.


Feminism sprung sheet out of control, today we have dykes calling themselves brothers and young men fcuking confused on what a man should look like because the mom practically runs the house.

"Girl power" plus "Government" has been the most damaging natural disasters to Men.

 

[Misrah]

Not in Spain: http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/02/09/espana/1265719274.html
It says: 80% of sentences for "genre violence" condemn the aggressor. I have two family members in the police and they are convinced about a huge percentage of the reports being false.

Read the top quote of the article you linked. 0.01% of reported cases are found to be false by evidence. Even if you disregard that, this article does little to support your argument. So many things come into play when discussing domestic violence. Ie. Most who suffer from domestic violence are women.

None of this has any bearing on the op. Its pulling at straws.

 

[CuddleJunkie]

Read the top quote of the article you linked. 0.01% of reported cases are found to be false by evidence. Even if you disregard that, this article does little to support your argument. So many things come into play when discussing domestic violence. Ie. Most who suffer from domestic violence are women.

None of this has any bearing on the op. Its pulling at straws.

Yeah, we went offtopic. Anyhow, even if we believe the bull**** that the goverment says about this stuff we still have the other non-legal things. Like I said, the understanding in cheating, the option to cry and ask for help when things are not going right, etc. I'm not excusing men that are angry at women for being women, but I say that I understand them being angry for the extremly unbalanced power between genres in many facets of society life.

 

[CuddleJunkie]

After men unplug they start to get better with women and have a deeper understanding of the red-pill. There are multiple levels of red-pill understanding and as men improve, so too does their understanding of the sexual dynamic, the red-pill reality that was hidden to them before, and they can start to "see the matrix" for lack of a better term.

As this knowledge and wisdom evolves, they begin to see through the lies much more easily, and the motives of women become far more visible. This visibility is what allows men to see what a large number of women are, and they don't want to attach themselves to that for a lifetime.

See, we have this two different visions. In one feminism is ruining women and men react against that, adapting and maybe trying to revert our society to a better model for us. And then this other one, when we are simply understanding better each day how women are and becoming aware of they being a source of more problems than rewards. Maybe it's only natural to evolve from the first vision to the second one as we gain a deeper understanding, maybe the first vision has elements of neediness and the second one is completly free of that.