Counterexample (Don't be this guy)

[bigneil]

My poor roommate.

He's 37 and single and started liking this girl back in June. In June. This week will be November. But every Saturday without fail he spends from 2PM to 1AM at some group meeting that she attends. Some gaming club or something.

It took him 4 months to get her phone number.

Highlights

* For the first month he was all excited that she would hug him (and everyone).

* The second month he talked about how he was afraid to ask her if she was single because she might be dating one of the other men in the room. I reminded him that when a girl is interested they tell everyone, they don't hide it from everyone.

* For the third month he told me he didn't want to rush things because he learned (from a third party via a man who was interpreting a deaf woman) that this girl had “just got out of a really bad relationship” and according to his interpretation "her last boyfriend had treated her really poorly". He thought he could be her friend first. And then marry her (he’s “looking for something longer term”). He thought she’d appreciate a really nice man who would never mistreat her, and that "it would take her a long time to heal" from the last guy. She just needed more time, he thought. I reminded him that if she liked a guy enough she’d go down on him within 5 minutes. He said that’s only promiscuous women who are like that.

* During the fourth month he finally got her phone number, but instead of texting her the first week, he CALLED her the second week - twice - and left voice mail - twice. No reply.

* Now in the 5th month, when he went to the event last week I told him to ask her birthday and by coincidence this week was her birthday. So on her birthday he finally texted her. It's generally one of the best times to connect with a girl as long as it's not on FB. They will talk about their birthday all day and spend another day thanking everyone who remembered. His text just read "Happy Birthday (her name)" and he signed his name in case she hadn't programmed him in. He got crickets. “Maybe her phone is off” he thought. On her birthday? She’s got it in a quick draw holster.

At that point I realized the girl is not only not interested in him, but she's an as-s-hole on top of it all. I can't imagine her not at least texting "thk u!" or some minimal pathetic obligatory reply to someone she hangs out with every week who wished her a happy birthday. Keep in mind that my roommate has a job that pays overtime. While barely eking out the minimum number of hours required at work, he's invested over 200 hours in this girl in less than 5 months, spending his only day off for about 20 weeks in a row - and a super long marathon day every time. At $50 an hour that's over $10,000 in time that he could have been working and getting paid (enough to take 3 hookers to Hawaii) that he invested in a chance for his only girl (who’s probably 35 and fat) - all for what turned into a painful pipe dream where he became overly invested.

 

[logicallefty]

Have you introduced him to SS? He needs our help... We have all been there where he is, at least I know I sure as hell have... And I'm sure you have more than tried to help him see the light.. But I have found through experience that the subject matter we discuss here is very voodoo, and it often takes more than just one person (you or me) explaining it before it clicks in a brother's head.. Our word alone as an individual isn't often enough. But anyone who objectively reads what we post here in any kind of depth is going to eventually get it.. Well, most people do anyway.. Other than maybe the infamous LWL!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I'm not sure I'd like to be either one of you.

You talk about him but why do you have a roommate at your age? You talk about all this money and get women by tossing your beta bucks around but then live with some dude you think is a loser.

Something doesn't add up.

 

[thatfeel]

Bigneil at it again...lol. Prepare for him to go ghost on this thread.

 

[Yewki]

At that point I realized the girl is not only not interested in him, but she's an as-s-hole on top of it all.

Yep, that's pretty bad. Would be funny though if he actually had the wrong number this whole time.

he's invested over 200 hours in this girl in less than 5 months, spending his only day off for about 20 weeks in a row - and a super long marathon day every time. At $50 an hour that's over $10,000 in time that he could have been working and getting paid (enough to take 3 hookers to Hawaii) that he invested in a chance for his only girl (who’s probably 35 and fat) - all for what turned into a painful pipe dream where he became overly invested.

I mean you could say this about anyone's side interests or hobbies. Yeah it's sad this guy is chasing a fantasy, but he gets enjoyment out of it.

 

[bigneil]

I'm not sure I'd like to be either one of you.

You talk about him but why do you have a roommate at your age? You talk about all this money and get women by tossing your beta bucks around but then live with some dude you think is a loser.

Something doesn't add up.

I moved to Georgia for a new job 5 months ago. He and I work on the same project at work in consecutive cubicles. Because I have a roommate, I practically live free ($600/month).

Meanwhile, here is my take-home pay the last few weeks (in descending order with most recent on top):

65 hours ($5525)
63 hours ($5355)
61 hours ($5185)
60 hours ($5100)
57 hours ($4845)
60 hours ($5100)
56 hours ($4760)
51 hours ($4335)
50 hours ($4250)

See a trend? Here is something that should "add up": I make $85 per hour corp to corp.

Meanwhile, my 22 year old girlfriend will be here in 12 days. Does that part add up?

 

[bigneil]

Those are Alpha bucks.

 

[foreverAFC]

neil you make all that money but cant pay for your own place ? you arent willing to throw down an extra $600 a month to have a place all to yourself that you dont have to share with some creep ?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I moved to Georgia for a new job 5 months ago. He and I work on the same project at work in consecutive cubicles. Because I have a roommate, I practically live free ($600/month).

Meanwhile, here is my take-home pay the last few weeks (in descending order with most recent on top):

65 hours ($5525)
63 hours ($5355)
61 hours ($5185)
60 hours ($5100)
57 hours ($4845)
60 hours ($5100)
56 hours ($4760)
51 hours ($4335)
50 hours ($4250)

See a trend? Here is something that should "add up": I make $85 per hour corp to corp.

Meanwhile, my 22 year old girlfriend will be here in 12 days. Does that part add up?

Stop showering her with money and gifts and see how long she sticks around. I'd bet less than a week. Does that add up?

 

[_sideways_]

I wish I was making $80....

 

[bigneil]

I've been dating my girlfriend since May 2014. There were many times this year when I was between contracts and living at Extended Stay (a crappy hotel chain that is basically Section 8 housing). She proved herself (while many other girls dumped me along the way) during those days. On average, I spend about $100 per week with her.

You see, people who make minimum wage never want to convert dollars to hours, or they'd have to admit they work longer hours to take a girl to a Red Box and 7/11 for Meister Brau than I do to take her to the Hilton.

Are you guys that cheap that you would make $5000 a week and not spend $100 (2%) on your lady who was there for you when you were broke? My spending $100 is like Naughty Ninja spending $10.

And why don't I get my own place? I've had my own place for about 22 years in my life. I've only been at this job 5 months. I'm in a small suburb 1 mile from my job so I have hardly any rent, no commute, no debt, no kids, no alimony and huge pay ($5610 last week, $5950 this week). Having a roommate (who has his own private section of the 2 bed 2 bath apartment) is actually a good thing. Half of our loneliness is simply wanting a companion in our increasingly isolated world. Plus men need to be around other men as well as women.

Women in Austin are better then women in Atlanta. Atlanta is good but not great.

 

[Speculator E]

And why don't I get my own place? I've had my own place for about 22 years in my life. I've only been at this job 5 months. I'm in a small suburb 1 mile from my job so I have hardly any rent, no commute, no debt, no kids, no alimony and huge pay ($5610 last week, $5950 this week). Having a roommate (who has his own private section of the 2 bed 2 bath apartment) is actually a good thing. Half of our loneliness is simply wanting a companion in our increasingly isolated world. Plus men need to be around other men as well as women.

Women in Austin are better then women in Atlanta. Atlanta is good but not great.

Why not get a pet?

 

[NSX-R]

Introduce him the dj bible. I'm sure at first he is going to be in a complete denial of the knowledge in the bible because he has been an afc for too long and an old dog can't learn new tricks. It needs big determination to change and if he has none of it then it's hopeless.

 

[Jetleg]

I moved to Georgia for a new job 5 months ago. He and I work on the same project at work in consecutive cubicles. Because I have a roommate, I practically live free ($600/month).

Meanwhile, here is my take-home pay the last few weeks (in descending order with most recent on top):

65 hours ($5525)
63 hours ($5355)
61 hours ($5185)
60 hours ($5100)
57 hours ($4845)
60 hours ($5100)
56 hours ($4760)
51 hours ($4335)
50 hours ($4250)

See a trend? Here is something that should "add up": I make $85 per hour corp to corp.

Meanwhile, my 22 year old girlfriend will be here in 12 days. Does that part add up?

Dude honestly, where do you work?!

 

[JohnChops]

if i remember correctly, neil works for a software company? Something along those lines ( i think). Ya, that guy seems like he never had a proper girfriend or pick up in his life. he needs to get out more.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

If a man cannot secure wealth in a society that forges its social hierarchy based on monetary class, how alpha (among the totality of the social class) is he truly? Consider this.

 

[Fitters]

85 x 65 =5525 minus taxes & stuff you shouldn't be taking home that much or am I wrong ?

 

[bigneil]

Dude honestly, where do you work?!

I work as a software contractor. In the past 3 months I took home $60,010, and my total living expenses in that frame were about $2000. Now that I built up my stamina so I can work 70 hour weeks (getting to work at 5am and working 6 days a week), I'm currently earning the equivalent of someone making over $500,000 salary, considering they are taxed 40%. I will still have to pay taxes but I can deduct all electronics and media along with most travel and most of my auto expenses. But I have to pay an accountant and the IRS a lot of fees.

Notice how the same people who say $100 is too much to spend on a date say that getting $600 a month from a roommate is chump change?

If you lived in Houston, NYC, San Francisco, South Padre Island, Austin, Dallas, San Jose, Tulsa and Atlanta in the past 3 years, you'd probably want to rent cheap too.

 

[bigneil]

85 x 65 =5525 minus taxes & stuff you shouldn't be taking home that much or am I wrong ?

I get paid Corp to Corp. So last week was 66 hours, so today I got $85 * 66 deposited ($5610). Next week is 70 hours ($5950). I've increased my hours every week for 10 straight weeks, starting at 50 hours ($4250). A 40 hour week for me is a mere $3400. The thing is, I have to travel a lot, having lived in 9 cities in the past 3 years (and some say I have to get out more??). So I have had about $100,000 expenses per year the last 3-4 years. I still get to spend that money so it's not all bad, but only lately have I been able to save. If you made this kind of money and traveled this much, you'd date strippers too.