4 words that will will throw me off in a convo. How do I respond to this? Say we're talking and I ask her out, and she throws this line at me? I wouldn't go after her after hearing this, but how to do I back out of this gracefully?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
"I have a boyfriend"
- Thread starter nibun
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
ArizonaDJ
Don Juan
I usually just say "oh well then it's been nice meeting you" and walk away. But when it's VERY obvious that she's lying and making it up as an excuse, I'll have some fun with it... "oh really, what does he do for a living? where is he from? how did you two meet?" and other questions that she'll have to scramble to answer. It's hilarious to watch her get all flustered trying to make up answers as she goes along.
[A]rtful[DJ]
Senior Don Juan
Hehehe i like that
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Realize that the world is just a stage, and u ll see how easy everything is.
BasicInstinct
Senior Don Juan
Straight from the DJ newsletter:
WHEN IS THE WEDDING DAY?
by Master of the Universe
I was at a store earlier today, when I met a cute clerk...
(Talked for a little bit while looking in her eyes and smiling.)
Me: Well, I better let you get back to work. Give me your phone #,
I'll call you, and we'll continue our conversation over lunch. (I
asked like I was sincere, but couldn't really care either way.)
Her: Well, the only thing is that I am already seeing someone.
(With the conflicting emotions on her face, I couldn't help but
smile.)
Me: Oh, good! When is the wedding day?
Her: (laughing) Oh no, we're not engaged.
Me: (smiling) Well, in that case it can't be that serious. Give me
your number, I'll call you, and we'll have lunch together.
Her: Well, as long as you know I am with someone. I mean, if you want
to be friends we could be friends.
Me: (Smiling) Well, I appreciate you letting me know about that. So
give me your phone number, I'll call you, we'll go to lunch and have a
fun time. Then we'll see what happens.
She gives me her number while smiling and looking in my eyes!
Before coming to this board, there is no way I would have been able to
pull this off! You guys are fantastic!
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Always outnumbered, never outgunned.
WHEN IS THE WEDDING DAY?
by Master of the Universe
I was at a store earlier today, when I met a cute clerk...
(Talked for a little bit while looking in her eyes and smiling.)
Me: Well, I better let you get back to work. Give me your phone #,
I'll call you, and we'll continue our conversation over lunch. (I
asked like I was sincere, but couldn't really care either way.)
Her: Well, the only thing is that I am already seeing someone.
(With the conflicting emotions on her face, I couldn't help but
smile.)
Me: Oh, good! When is the wedding day?
Her: (laughing) Oh no, we're not engaged.
Me: (smiling) Well, in that case it can't be that serious. Give me
your number, I'll call you, and we'll have lunch together.
Her: Well, as long as you know I am with someone. I mean, if you want
to be friends we could be friends.
Me: (Smiling) Well, I appreciate you letting me know about that. So
give me your phone number, I'll call you, we'll go to lunch and have a
fun time. Then we'll see what happens.
She gives me her number while smiling and looking in my eyes!
Before coming to this board, there is no way I would have been able to
pull this off! You guys are fantastic!
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Always outnumbered, never outgunned.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Those are good for a chick I won't likely see again, but won't work for this particular situation: I'm gonna see her in class. I was thinking along lines of:
"Sorry to hear that, it would have been fun. Oh well, I'll see you in class" (end with smile)
Or how about this, if she says "I'm seeing someone right now", I repond with "Does that mean you can't hang out with other people?"
"Sorry to hear that, it would have been fun. Oh well, I'll see you in class" (end with smile)
Or how about this, if she says "I'm seeing someone right now", I repond with "Does that mean you can't hang out with other people?"
When she says "I already have a boyfriend", I usually smile and say
"So? I'm not jealous..."
This usually elicits a smile and on a couple of occasions she has said "But he is..." which on one occasion I said "Too bad. When you're ready for a real man let me know."
I still never got a date after they say that line, though.
"So? I'm not jealous..."
This usually elicits a smile and on a couple of occasions she has said "But he is..." which on one occasion I said "Too bad. When you're ready for a real man let me know."
I still never got a date after they say that line, though.
Personally if the girl tells me that straight up and hasn't been showing interest in me numerous time on different occasions (ie:leading me on) Then I'm cool w/ her saying that.
She is not wasting my time, I respect that and just leave it be. I only worry w/ how to handle it when they have been acting like they are interested, then tell me that.
She is not wasting my time, I respect that and just leave it be. I only worry w/ how to handle it when they have been acting like they are interested, then tell me that.
the graphics guy
Don Juan
How' bout this: (true story)
"When is the wedding day?"
"April."
"Y'mean this April or next?"
"Next April. These things take up a lot of time with planning."
"Well, I see you're not here as a couple, so I assume you are free to talk to other people."
"Oh yes, definitely. I'm a big girl... I mean an independent woman."
<fluff talk ensues. I walk around for a while to chat up others, then I return.>
"How ya been!" <kiss on cheek>
<more convo to elicit values, build rapport, become "friends">
<I walk away a couple more times without explaining. However, when she needs to go pee, she humbly says sorry and promises to hurry back.>
"Well, independent woman, it looks like they are trying to get rid of us here, so let's pay our respective bar tabs. We could continue this convo, my hot tub is all warmed up and I have plenty of beer."
"When is the wedding day?"
"April."
"Y'mean this April or next?"
"Next April. These things take up a lot of time with planning."
"Well, I see you're not here as a couple, so I assume you are free to talk to other people."
"Oh yes, definitely. I'm a big girl... I mean an independent woman."
<fluff talk ensues. I walk around for a while to chat up others, then I return.>
"How ya been!" <kiss on cheek>
<more convo to elicit values, build rapport, become "friends">
<I walk away a couple more times without explaining. However, when she needs to go pee, she humbly says sorry and promises to hurry back.>
"Well, independent woman, it looks like they are trying to get rid of us here, so let's pay our respective bar tabs. We could continue this convo, my hot tub is all warmed up and I have plenty of beer."
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Che Guevara
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she: i have a b/f
che: i don`t think that your b/f would mind if you meet new people
che: i don`t think that your b/f would mind if you meet new people
BGMan
Master Don Juan
Her: "My boyfriend ..."
Me: "Really? Well, I've gotta go do ... . Cya later!"
Her: "Well, okay then, bye!"
Me: (aside) Riiiight...
If she mentions her BF, she's not interested, PERIOD.
Her: "Well, I'm kinda seeing someone..."
Me: "Yeah, well so am I. What's your number?"
"Seeing someone" isn't as strong. It implies there is/are someone she's casually dating but isn't really INTO. In this case I continue the push.
BGMan
[This message has been edited by BGMan (edited 03-04-2002).]
Me: "Really? Well, I've gotta go do ... . Cya later!"
Her: "Well, okay then, bye!"
Me: (aside) Riiiight...
If she mentions her BF, she's not interested, PERIOD.
Her: "Well, I'm kinda seeing someone..."
Me: "Yeah, well so am I. What's your number?"
"Seeing someone" isn't as strong. It implies there is/are someone she's casually dating but isn't really INTO. In this case I continue the push.
BGMan
[This message has been edited by BGMan (edited 03-04-2002).]
the graphics guy
Don Juan
"This guy I've been seeing..." = I'm not exactly staying home alone every night but I'm not spoken for either.
"My boyfriend..." = I'm hooked up.
"My boyfriend..." = I'm hooked up.
IntermediateDonJuaner
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Nibun,why do you want to back off? Try this out the next time when a girl says she has a bf.
Girl : I can't go out with you because I have a bf,sorry.
YOU : So what does he has to do with this.? What I mean is I didn't ask him out, I asked you. So how about let's get together on this Thursday for coffee.
This will usually throw a chick off. Try it. It works! The key phrase here is : "I didn't ask *HIM* out, I asked *YOU*. so..(continue with your sentence here).
Okay? Good luck!
Girl : I can't go out with you because I have a bf,sorry.
YOU : So what does he has to do with this.? What I mean is I didn't ask him out, I asked you. So how about let's get together on this Thursday for coffee.
This will usually throw a chick off. Try it. It works! The key phrase here is : "I didn't ask *HIM* out, I asked *YOU*. so..(continue with your sentence here).
Okay? Good luck!
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
These are awesome counters! My favorite has got to be:
She: "I'm seeing someone right now"
You: "I'm seeing two women right now - you need to catch up. (BIG GRIN)"
*LOL* This is a must use for my next encounters.
IntermediateDonJuaner: I would back off to "I have a bf" cuz even it'll be too much effort to go after this girl. The probability of success is too low to justify the effort. I'd rather back off and... as someone much greater than I said "NEXT!"
Isn't this what a DJ would do?
She: "I'm seeing someone right now"
You: "I'm seeing two women right now - you need to catch up. (BIG GRIN)"
*LOL* This is a must use for my next encounters.
IntermediateDonJuaner: I would back off to "I have a bf" cuz even it'll be too much effort to go after this girl. The probability of success is too low to justify the effort. I'd rather back off and... as someone much greater than I said "NEXT!"
Isn't this what a DJ would do?
PortugueseMeatball
Senior Don Juan
ROFLMAO!!!! LOL THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!! Great comeback!!!!
Giovanni Casanova
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A couple more for ya.
YOU: How about we get together next Thursday night?
HER: I have a boyfriend.
YOU: Oh, well I'd prefer if he doesn't come with us.
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YOU: How about we get together next Thursday night?
HER: I don't think my boyfriend would like that.
YOU: Oh, well I wasn't asking him out, I was asking you.
YOU: How about we get together next Thursday night?
HER: I have a boyfriend.
YOU: Oh, well I'd prefer if he doesn't come with us.
*****
YOU: How about we get together next Thursday night?
HER: I don't think my boyfriend would like that.
YOU: Oh, well I wasn't asking him out, I was asking you.
VeryBadGirl
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Oh my God, some guy tried to use this one on me last night!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.