Originally posted by Nooby Doo
”Hey all, I am not one to mince words, so I will just dive into this post...”.
Nobody Due, you are back, and as usual you bring a firestorm of words filled with wrath upon us – I know your real identity – but I’ll keep that a secret!! Let me bring some sound logic to this discussion! In rebuttal, I respond to your 7 so-called LIES!
LIE #1 "I am the prize"
By strict definition, both male and female are “the prize” – a prize is something worth striving for, a highly desirable possession. We are both worthy and both desire each other (I’m not talking about me and you nooby [don’t get any ideas] – I’m talking about males and females here). But strictly from a logical perspective, the man has to be the prize to be had, given the nature of ‘prize-giving’.
The man is “The Prize”, not because someone said this as a slogan, but logically the reality is such. When a man pursues a woman he is offering himself to her, and this offering of his self is the prize to be had if the woman accepts his wooing advances and his conditions. It is up to her however, to accept the offering. The women cannot by definition be ‘the prize’ because she is not the one doing the offering – she is in the passive state, while the man is the aggressor. She is only involved in the interaction after the male initiates the conversation.
How could a woman be ‘the prize’ if she is not the initiator? You must have the offering first before you can even consider the acceptance of the offering! For example, when you have a present for someone, what do you say? You say, “ I have something for you.” You being the initiator in the interaction make the offering to another party - without this initiation there would be no interaction, and the concept of who is “the prize” will be a moot point! If the woman is the prize then she would present herself to the man she is interested in, otherwise the man would not even know there is a prize being offered to him - and what good would be the prize, if it is never offered to the ‘intended’ recipient and the intended recipient doesn’t even know he is being offered a prize!
LIE #2 "As you think, you shall become."
This statement can be better stated, “As a man thinketh so is he”. Every action requires a thought to proceed with that action, besides our reflexes tied to our nervous system, which are already programmed to generally take the best course of action under certain conditions. So by definition, thought always takes precedence to actions, since we are masters of our own selves. When a thief plans his thievery he obviously thinks of doing so first, and his actions follow.
If you don’t have confidence, you don’t’ become’ insecure, you ‘are’ insecure. If you don’t take action, you won’t ‘become’ inactive, you ‘are’ inactive.
Only from positive thoughtful action to get off the chair and approach a girl will you ever actually ‘act upon your thinking’. If you are thinking 5 reasons not to approach and no reasons to approach, your inaction will be based on your negative thinking. The mere thought that a man is attracted to a girl should give a man reason enough to make an attempt to approach her, and from this union determine if further action to be taken is worthy.
So if every action is preceded by a thought, then it is the actual ‘thinking’ of a man that commands a man’s actions and behavior! The advice on this forum only gives one the proper thinking, but it is up to the individual to take action. My point is, he is in a better ‘state of mind’ now than before visiting this site, to approach and take action.
LIE #3 "Be distant and aloof with women. Protect your heart."
I can’t take the above statement literally, since our mission as men is to bring ourselves closer to women, physically and emotionally speaking; however, you would get the gist of the message, if you put into its’ proper context. When we approach individuals, especially strangers, we should proceed with caution so as not to hurt one another through misunderstandings or misconceived actions. The male / female relationship is the most intimate (mentally, emotionally, physically, and financially) of all relationships and so it is only natural, in the beginning, to be hesitant and wary of your position in the relationship, since much is given, and much can be lost and taken away!
LIE #4 "Always do X technique and NEVER do (blablabla)."
These posts are mere suggestions given on this message board, and solely to be digested and acted upon by those who determine that it applies to their situation. Most of the suggestions (advice) given, if not all, are made with the intention to help and not hinder the advisee’s chances for a positive outcome. How could getting a varied pool of perspectives hurt a man’s decision making – there is enough of us here to counteract each other’s position to give a fair and balance picture to the student. Although there may be many that agree on a certain action, should we disregard such advice because everybody speaks with the same voice. Their opinion must have some merit, if it is to be chorused in unison and unanimously! What individual is to say otherwise, at the expense of putting himself above the whole community!
There are no mandates and absolutes in a varied field of opinions on such a dynamic and relative topic as “male/female relationships”. If every person is unique, then by definition every relationship and encounter must be so defined. Each DJ’s individuality and uniqueness is taken into account and assumed by all persons here. In certain instances under pre-specified conditions and circumstances, there is a best-case scenario of action to be taken to get the highest probability of the intended outcome to occur. This advice, although based on the individual’s prior experiences, when taken as an aggregate of the group, will validate and reinforce, more often than not, a superior action to be taken versus an action that was not mentioned. There are some given assumptions, one of which is that we are dealing with ordinary male and female thinking and behavior and thus there are some norms or patterns that have been already established, by the aggregate relationships and experiences in the male/female population, throughout time.
LIE #5 "Got one-itis? Go fukk ten other women."
The one-itis philosophy is one we all share for the most part, although many DJ’s deny it, because in the end we don’t want to be DJ’ing at 72 years of age – it just doesn’t have the same effect upon women and the same affect upon us as men. Can you imagine kino-ing a HB70, and kiss-closing her on a first date?
‘One-itis’ is frowned upon in youth for the obvious reason that we are not to put our current efforts and future hopes on a female who has no interest in our being and thus we are wasting opportunities and our efforts that could be spent on a worthy and satisfying subject. For most men, all of our pursuits are eventually for the purpose to seek companionship with one that is compatible with our selves and to share our lives to make something greater than what we can make alone as individuals.
LIE #6 "A DJ is about self-improvement. We are here to improve ourselves and make our dreams come true." All these romantic definitions you guys have of "what a DJ really is" need to go. A DJ is about 3 things… It really is that simple.
To put more weight on your comments above other individuals in the community is to do exactly what you are charging others from doing…if others state that they use this site for self-improvement and you believe they come here or should come here for another purpose, why is your definition and thinking of what a DJ is and should be, be more valid than their actual thinking and experience? I have heard numerous ‘Don Juan’s state how their thinking has changed for the better since they came to this site and how their life has improved, specifically relating to woman and generally speaking…remember as a man thinketh, so is he! They started thinking in positive terms and taking positive actions…from bettering their health and fitness, to obtaining more knowledge on relationships and the rightful thinking of a man, to going from smelling and pulling a girl’s hair to caressing her cheek and kiss-closing her.
LIE #7 "Listen to Pook, Fingers and all the other gurus out there. They know whats up!"
I’m not pokeing any gurus with my fingers!! Where in the DJ bible does it say to do this?
Scooby Doo says,
“So there you have it. You can all flame me to hell but I really don’t care. Like all advice you will find here, take my words with a grain of salt and discover the truth for YOURSELF! “
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This thread has really nothing to do with truth or falsehood, but rather it is your point of view and comments that brought these issues to bear and it is our feedback in refuting your position, that will either strengthen or weaken your arguments.
A website such as SoSuave has at least allowed us to share our thoughts and experiences with one another and gave us a forum to speak our minds. Are fellow Don Juans and you not better informed by such discussions? Would we be talking about the concept of what is a ‘Don Juan’ if this site never existed? Has not our condition improved, if not our minds enlightened, on the dynamics of the male/female relationship, because of our presence here? Of course it has! But it is only up to the individual DJ to decide whether he wishes to bring this knowledge to fruition and put it to practice - he is under no obligation and he is not less of a man for not doing so!
do you want these guys to beg for them?) while I am out having a great time IN THE FIELD.
