To your point 1.
A lot of the studies I linked examine marriages over a long period of time (decades) and while you are right a woman can do a 180 from how she was during a courting phase to during the marriage phase.....
Stop right there, ArcBound that's the central problem man. The fact that a woman can totally SHIFT on you at anytime or over time, makes the thing extremely risky. It's like doing an investment in a business that has colossal changes every quarter, how the hell do you do long term planning for something like that? You don't, all you can do is plan for the very short term, which is why for me I have decided to only deal with short term relationships with women without getting into any legal ties.
.....the divorce statistics take those marriages into account. So if you lowered your divorce percentage to say 10% or 20%, that includes even those women in that calculation.
Okay, so let's go with that. Let's say it's not over 50% like I projected, let's say it's 15% like you project. I might have a 15% chance of getting divorced, but who is to say I'm not going to be apart of that 15%? Number two, the main RISK is still on the table in terms of the woman doing a 180 on me, there's no way I can risk mitigate that.....so let's say I don't divorce, does this mean that I'm living happily ever after or maybe I'm just tolerating the bullshyt because it's cheaper to keep her?
To point 2, what you talk about sounds a lot like the biological parents cohabiting. But the studies I posted earlier in this thread also examined that and found that biological parents marrying still confers benefits that biological parents cohabiting don't have (even adjusted for income). For example, teenage promiscuity/pregnancy, delinquency, cognitive defects, emotional defects, earning less money than peers, etc. So while it is your opinion that they don't need to marry, the evidence shows that even kids with cohabiting biological parents are behind married biological parents.
I was referring to the parents potentially not even dating anymore, but the child knows and has a relationship with both parents. I think having a Father and a Mother in your life is important, whether or not they are still together and in "love" I don't think has anything directly to do with the child.
To point 3, you are grouping jurry and me together. Almost every single person here I responded individually, and didn't combine their arguments together and make claims about what they have said. That is because I respect what each person has to say, and I hope you will have that same respect towards me.
"all the fvck you guys are going to say is,
"Tenacity, just man up, stop whining about it, and find another job you can do it! Come on buddy!! Be a man and stop whining! Come on buddy!!" ""
I never said or gave advice anything like that.
I'm referring to the notion that occurs on Forums like these all the time. When you have a guy come on here that's going through a Divorce, the standard replies are for the guy to STUCK IT UP, get an attorney, go through the process, and then get it over with so he can MOVE ON with life. That's the standard response and quite frankly, it's really the only response one can provide. I'm saying, if I get fvcked in the Court by a chick because I married on the notion that "I only have a 15% chance of divorce" then there will be nobody there to RESCUE me from my problems when they arise. I will have to eat shyt and die, and maybe literally like a lot of divorced men do. Marriage is a bad deal, a bad investment, a bad-bad-bad- DEAL. If you want to have children, do it without a marriage contract and just establish a professional working relationship with the child's mother so it has both a Father and a Mother in its life. Marriage is a BAD DEAL.
......That said your last point I concede to you. A lesson my father taught me very early was each person looks out for their own physical health and mental well being first and foremost.
Which is why no man in his right mind should sign a Marriage Contract because ArcBound, the contract makes no sense. I'm telling you, it's like signing up for a Cell Phone service with a $50,000 cancellation fee. I might really like the phone, like the service, and really NEED the phone/service, but to think that there might not come a time when I might need to cancel it (and can't) is just insane.
)and talk about that but you and I both know you didn't need to bring race into this topic.