Mystery's show on VH1 [Merged Threads]

[Ace of Flames]

Self validation?

The short little ego boost from pwning some noob on the DJ forums doesn't last long. If you want that kind of cheap satisfaction, go play Halo 3 and blow some people's heads off.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

The short little ego boost from pwning some noob on the DJ forums doesn't last long.

That's why they need to do it so often.

If you want that kind of cheap satisfaction, go play Halo 3 and blow some people's heads off.

Dude, $60 ain't cheap! :woo:

Fragging ain't easy but it sho' is fun....

 

[Ace of Flames]

That's why they need to do it so often.

Dude, $60 ain't cheap! :woo:

Fragging ain't easy but it sho' is fun....

Sigh. I agree with you too much.

:cheer:

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Sigh. I agree with you too much.

:cheer:

Scary, huh? :nervous:

 

[TooColdUlrick]

this is why innocent people get killed everyday, becaus of haters like you guys. Stop hating and downing the mystery method. The 4hit works. Just because you dont want to use the mm or don't agree with histactics doesnt mean his stuff dont work. turst me, I know, I was sitting watching the show with my g/f and she even told me the $hit works, and she's not a fat ug5.

Just because u have success with your "direct method" or whatever u use don't mean u gotta keep putting someone down on everyother reply to this thread.

Trust me, I know what wors, mm works, direct method works, juggler works..all those methods work.

I use mm sometimes, I go juggler, and I go myself because I have personality my damn self so I know everything works. Just ecause I use mm, doesnt mean Ill put down the direct method every chance i get.

...and what is up with you guys being dissappointed that no one got laid, its a f*cking tv show, not a porno, u dissappointed because you didnt see kosmo smashing up any butt naked biitches. Rent a flick or watch an episode of nip/tuck if you're ryna see 4hit like that.

holla

Trendsetter aka Williesacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schoolhouse_Rock!

for starters.

 

[Trendsetter]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schoolhouse_Rock!

for starters.

....says the guy that sarges with his mm, the "myspace method" lol.


Thanks for again proving my point.

No rebuttal so he changes the subject.

..fu(k outa here.

 

[Derek Flint]

Yeah, picking up a stripper who was like a 7 at best and using a Limo as a gimmick to get her is not exactly a success.

Strippers are low-life scum who will f*** anyone who they think they can get something out of.

If I or anyone here went to a strip club and told 10 strippers I had a Limo outside and asked them to go "party" in the Limo, I bet half of them would go outside with any of one of you because they think there will be drugs and/or money in it for them.

You think if Brady rode the bus to the strip club that night that stripper would have left with him?

We all know the answer to that question.

The reason I "bash" the Mystery Method is because it will actually prevent people from progressing in the long run, and it is based on false opinion openers, false DHV, false time constraints, false this, false that.

What kind of relationship will you build and/or have with a woman when your first interaction with her is based on lies and bull$#!T?

The original purpose of this forum was to become a "DJ"

Do any of you remember what that actually meant?

If not, do some research and find out what the original mission statement was of this forum and what it means to be a "DJ"

I can tell you that it does NOT mean using gimmicks and tricks and lies to pickup women.

The best "guru" is yourself, not some guy who wants 3K for a bootcamp to teach you to lie to women and use gimmicks that 100,000 other guys are using.

Every hot chick has had some aspiring PUA demonstrate "The Cube" on her at least half a dozen times.

Or have been asked for a "female opinion" and that "they only have a minute"

My point is that there are higher levels beyond MM, but some people will settle for what they get out of MM, which is much more than they've ever had, but the MM is just an illusion.

Why do you think Mystery himself has a long history of failed relationships and pickups up and f***s women for self-validation?

Did you read Style's book and how Mystery was suicidal over a breakup?

Sounds pretty AFC to me.

Mystery is a good guy. I've met him and talked with him and I like the guy, I really do, but his method is very shallow and will attract shallow, insecure women and will leave most guys unfulfilled, unless they just want shallow, insecure women who they will also get validation from.

And those shallow, insecure women will also drop you the minute something they think is better comes along, much like what happens to Mystery time after time, because his method teaches you how to attract women using gimmicks, but the flaw with the MM is that once the women see past the gimmicks, they realize that it's all style and very little substance and they move on.

And the fact that using MM, none of the guys on his show did more than makeout with I think 2 girls, one a 6.5 and one a 7, and that's being generous shows that MM isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

Even after all this hands on training by Mystery and his crew, none of these guys pulled any HB's or any girls at all. And no, it's not because I want to see nudity or porno, it's I wanted to see the results of the great Mystery Method. Well, we saw the results and they weren't impressive to say the least. Not at all, unless you call a couple of makeouts with a couple of girls most of us wouldn't even give the time of day a success.

I'm not hating on Mystery, but I do know that there are much more fulfilling ways to achieve the desired end result then using the MM, and that the MM was a spectacular failure on National TV despite the fact that the students got hands on training from Mystery, Matador and J-Dog.

Training which would cost thousands of dollars and for what? A couple of makeouts with a couple of average looking girls?

The end results says it all. Anyone who could defend the MM after that embarrassment is either a starstruck fanboy or a shill for the MM

 

[Ace of Flames]

Scary, huh? :nervous:

Scary because I agree with a 40 year old, because only we make any sense on lots of issues here, or some other reason I can't figure out because its late and my mind is totally occupied by the dirty thoughts my girl has been putting in my head all day?

 

[TooColdUlrick]

....says the guy that sarges with his mm, the "myspace method" lol.


Thanks for again proving my point.

No rebuttal so he changes the subject.

..fu(k outa here.

i guess "trendsetter" dug up a two or three year old post of mine. this isn't PoserSupreme is it?

but you're right. tomorrow i will go out and get me a Pirate outfit and paint my fingernails black, to pick up chicks. chicks totally dig Pirates.

no wait! Vikings are way better. Pirates are petty little theives. Vikings conquer nations. yes, i think a Viking hat is the way to go. my new Aviator will not be Kosmo, but Thor! Thor The Viking. i like that.

don't NE of U steel ma consept.

a Viking would be much more attractive peacocking than Red Baron Goggles, don't you think? especially if i paint a green stripe in my hair, despite the fact that i'm a highly respected business man. yes, everyone digs a green stripe in ones hair, including but not limited to all of my highly respected colleagues in life (who kan spel good).

a Viking uniform, and a green stripe in my hair, would definitely give me demonstrated higher value to all women who are drunk in a night club, especially strippers. god i love strippers!

I AM MYSTERY... erg I mean... THOR. HEAR ME ROAR. RAR!

oh BTW, did you see those two girls fighting outside? wow, it was pretty crazy!

:rockon:

 

[Derek Flint]

I don't think it is - PlayerSupreme despises MM as I remember.

I believe he said something like "he doesn't go for that dressing like a faggot and pulling a rabbit out of yo ass BS"

 

[Holland]

What kind of relationship will you build and/or have with a woman when your first interaction with her is based on lies and bull$#!T?

True.
The show was entertaining, so I won't complain. I already knew MM was not for me. Way too much BS you don't even want to remember. Routine after routine after routine. How can you have a good time when you're constantly following something that is scripted. I would fall asleep because of how boring that would be. That's just Bull**** Method.

It's not that hard, be sexual, spontaneous, high status and don't give a **** and you're in.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Scary because I agree with a 40 year old, because only we make any sense on lots of issues here, or some other reason I can't figure out because its late and my mind is totally occupied by the dirty thoughts my girl has been putting in my head all day?

Sounds like its time to shift focus from the big head to the little one.

 

[Ace of Flames]

Sounds like its time to shift focus from the big head to the little one.

How right you are. That will happen this weekend, with any luck. She's such a naughty vixen.

 

[Mad Manic]

Those who say it's all about routines don't understand the mystery method and the model he uses. The model of open to close, if executed to perfection, will guarantee that you indeed go from open to close; it merely explains the natural phenomenon in a scientific way.

He is a top pick up artist and knows all the little details and how to implement them in the vast majority of interactions. He isn't perfect, but he isn't far off, if he's gone from an introverted 21 year old virgin to a god with women, he obviously knows what he's doing.

Open a girl. Show her you're a cool guy. Start chatting to her about stuff. Tell her what you like about her personality. Suggest a date and get her number. Meet outside a place, go have a meal, then head back to yours for a "DVD".

The above is perfectly normal, but indeed it is following the mystery method.

 

[Trendsetter]

Yeah, picking up a stripper who was like a 7 at best and using a Limo as a gimmick to get her is not exactly a success.

Strippers are low-life scum who will f*** anyone who they think they can get something out of.

If I or anyone here went to a strip club and told 10 strippers I had a Limo outside and asked them to go "party" in the Limo, I bet half of them would go outside with any of one of you because they think there will be drugs and/or money in it for them.

You think if Brady rode the bus to the strip club that night that stripper would have left with him?

We all know the answer to that question.

The reason I "bash" the Mystery Method is because it will actually prevent people from progressing in the long run, and it is based on false opinion openers, false DHV, false time constraints, false this, false that.

What kind of relationship will you build and/or have with a woman when your first interaction with her is based on lies and bull$#!T?

The original purpose of this forum was to become a "DJ"

Do any of you remember what that actually meant?

If not, do some research and find out what the original mission statement was of this forum and what it means to be a "DJ"

I can tell you that it does NOT mean using gimmicks and tricks and lies to pickup women.

The best "guru" is yourself, not some guy who wants 3K for a bootcamp to teach you to lie to women and use gimmicks that 100,000 other guys are using.

Every hot chick has had some aspiring PUA demonstrate "The Cube" on her at least half a dozen times.

Or have been asked for a "female opinion" and that "they only have a minute"

My point is that there are higher levels beyond MM, but some people will settle for what they get out of MM, which is much more than they've ever had, but the MM is just an illusion.

Why do you think Mystery himself has a long history of failed relationships and pickups up and f***s women for self-validation?

Did you read Style's book and how Mystery was suicidal over a breakup?

Sounds pretty AFC to me.

Mystery is a good guy. I've met him and talked with him and I like the guy, I really do, but his method is very shallow and will attract shallow, insecure women and will leave most guys unfulfilled, unless they just want shallow, insecure women who they will also get validation from.

And those shallow, insecure women will also drop you the minute something they think is better comes along, much like what happens to Mystery time after time, because his method teaches you how to attract women using gimmicks, but the flaw with the MM is that once the women see past the gimmicks, they realize that it's all style and very little substance and they move on.

And the fact that using MM, none of the guys on his show did more than makeout with I think 2 girls, one a 6.5 and one a 7, and that's being generous shows that MM isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

Even after all this hands on training by Mystery and his crew, none of these guys pulled any HB's or any girls at all. And no, it's not because I want to see nudity or porno, it's I wanted to see the results of the great Mystery Method. Well, we saw the results and they weren't impressive to say the least. Not at all, unless you call a couple of makeouts with a couple of girls most of us wouldn't even give the time of day a success.

I'm not hating on Mystery, but I do know that there are much more fulfilling ways to achieve the desired end result then using the MM, and that the MM was a spectacular failure on National TV despite the fact that the students got hands on training from Mystery, Matador and J-Dog.

Training which would cost thousands of dollars and for what? A couple of makeouts with a couple of average looking girls?

The end results says it all. Anyone who could defend the MM after that embarrassment is either a starstruck fanboy or a shill for the MM

Im neither a starstruck fanboy or a shill but I give props where they're due. About mystery being suicidal over a breakup, yes I read it and what happens to him in his personal life is on him, has nothing to do with his mytery method, all he talks about is picking them up, not learning to keep them.


If the guy makes 3-10k doing workshops, then why hate on the guy, if this guy makes that much teaching people how to pickup women, then so be it. We all have hobbies, some people play basketball, halo 3, read, he picks up women and does a good job teaching it.

I'm more of a style/juggler guy myself, style does mm but has a better style of delivering it (fits me more) than mystery so I'm not a fanboy of mystery or whatever you call. SO I'm just like you in a sense because I dont' do strictly mm, I do other stuff but like you, since I don't do it, I'm not gonna bash his method and praise how my method is the holier than thou be all end all, I do some style/juggler but mostly use a style I'm working on (somewhere in between indirect and direct, more 'observational'), on my own and mix a little bit of everything else, (I'm also field testing some 'direct game' also).

Just saying, your posts just come off, in myopinion as bashing someone who was successful doing something i.e hating.

I'm gonna post a quote off someone from another pua messageboard that made a good point about mm..........

But on the real... MM is not dead, you just can't be that tool whose gone around using the same 2 openers on 400 sets. Check the socal lair forums for a list of routines from the show just in case you are a routine chode.

EVERY single guy I've met whose been half way decent is quick witted. Funny, converses well, etc...

The people who aren't are those who spout theory with hardly any understanding, lack anything interesting to say, and generally just "don't get it."

Luxberry

If you understand it and have some personality of your own, you can pull it off well, you can't be a robot.

 

[Reyaj]

Those who say it's all about routines don't understand the mystery method and the model he uses. The model of open to close, if executed to perfection, will guarantee that you indeed go from open to close; it merely explains the natural phenomenon in a scientific way.

He is a top pick up artist and knows all the little details and how to implement them in the vast majority of interactions. He isn't perfect, but he isn't far off, if he's gone from an introverted 21 year old virgin to a god with women, he obviously knows what he's doing.

Open a girl. Show her you're a cool guy. Start chatting to her about stuff. Tell her what you like about her personality. Suggest a date and get her number. Meet outside a place, go have a meal, then head back to yours for a "DVD".

The above is perfectly normal, but indeed it is following the mystery method.

How the hell do you know Mystery is a top PUA???????????????? Have you ever seen him hook up with a hot chick that wasn't scripted? Show me some proof before you go endorsing this guy as the biggest pimp ever.

Personally he looks like a tranvestite and I don't think he could score hotties for ****. Show me proof!@

 

[Reyaj]

Anyone that backs this guy and his method are truly sheltered idiots... and have no idea of what the real world is like. Check out my approach journal for real inspiration.

 

[TheSplat]

Why is everyone being such a hater? The guy gets girls, plain and simple. Better yet, he teaches others to get girls. Check out his website. Look at the forums for the feedback from his seminars. He's changing people's lives. So what if he dresses like an underwater vampire. That's his thing. I'm sure you have little things you do that if you were to go host a show on national TV you'd get made fun of for it. If you don't like him, that's your business...but you're missing the boat.

 

[Reyaj]

Why is everyone being such a hater? The guy gets girls, plain and simple. Better yet, he teaches others to get girls. Check out his website. Look at the forums for the feedback from his seminars. He's changing people's lives. So what if he dresses like an underwater vampire. That's his thing. I'm sure you have little things you do that if you were to go host a show on national TV you'd get made fun of for it. If you don't like him, that's your business...but you're missing the boat.

big deal any of that can be made up. Send me real proof of him scoring a hot girl in an unscripted environment and then I'll consider him not to be a fraud.

I cant imagine that guy getting any real hot girl...

 

[Jariel]

My thoughts...

Mystery never really proved his skills - except for pulling a woman in a club, but it doesn't take a PUA to do that. Why couldn't he show us his skills in daylight or perform some of the tasks he set for the contestants?

He taught the guys loads of canned material, but couldn't teach them to be men. I mean, what a bunch of cry babies and drama queens!

One day they have crippling nervousness and panic attacks, the next day it's all gone as if by magic?! Panic attacks don't just disappear like that and nervousness takes a long time to overcome. I was not convinced these guys were the losers they claimed to be.

The best looking guy with the best physique won. The second best looking guy came second.

They referred to pool parties, limosines and portrayed themselves as rich, so they're going to attract gold diggers if nothing else.

They had nothing left after their canned routines ran out. They still seemed socially inept and didn't even know the meaning of the word "charisma".

The show was about transforming geeks into PUAs, but those who had trouble were eliminated. In other words, Mystery didn't convert the geeks afterall.

It was clearly a big marketing campaign.

Mystery seems like a likeable chap and he does have a lot of confidence about him, to give him his dues. But he appeared better at seducing vulnerable young men than women.

It was a great show as far as entertainment goes and there was some decent advice for beginners, but it wasn't very convincing overall.