Mystery's show on VH1 [Merged Threads]

[Ever onward]

Haha and you're going to tell me every reality show prior to this wasn't some what scripted? Sorry man, but most reality TV shows are 'somewhat' scripted. There's really not such a thing as a completely real reality show.

Hey man, I'm not going to tell you anything. I usually make it a rule not to watch reality shows. However, I've started watching Hogan Knows Best now because it's on right after the PUA. lol

 

[Ever onward]

I have heard those exact words out of a woman after # closing her.

Well I stand corrected then. Like the kid said, there are billions of women out there. Experience is the best teacher.

1. Every reality TV contestant, be it Survivor or whatever, is an aspiring actor of some sort. That is the only reason anyone would think about being on such a show.

Makes sense, but like I said I haven't watched other reality shows until recently.

2. You can fake a night club, you can fake body language, but boy is it hard to fake an awkward rejection!

But were the actors feeling awkward or were we the audience projecting that? LOL, because I can't speak for the actors but man I sure felt awkward watching a lot of those scenes.

3. Yes, it is filled with Standard TV fluff, but there just isn't any reason to fake the field tests. Teaching an awkward AFC to close a 6 or 7 . . . it's really not that hard, guys. Paying an actress to pretend she's drunk in a club? Aren't there real drunk girls in clubs already? What's to fake?

Never said it was that hard. I personally think it would be harder to get all of the people in the club to agree to allow their faces to be on tv than to just hire some actors. I don't know if it was real or not, all I'm saying is I highly doubt it.

(PS: I box, I do public speaking, I wouldn't be caught dead in speedos.)

To each their own, I would rather parade my fat but around in a speedo all day than give a 10 minute speech.

 

[Mr. Highroller]

- When Kip's number close kept saying "I'm going to be very upset if I never hear from you again" that was totally fake. Girl's don't say that kind of stuff.

Ive heard that line plenty of times after either # closing or kiss closs at bars. Apply the right game and girls will lose their dignity and beg to see you again.

As far as the show I believe it was more real then some believe.....The reason is that if it was Completely FAKE, these AFCs would of been pulling HB9s-10s just to promote Mystery and for the WOW factor.

I am glad that Kosmo won it seemed as if he wanted it the most, even if he was an actor. He may of over acted his emotions in his interviews but i think we saw the real him in the field. Like ive said before a person can be an AFC and an actor or musician at the same time. He probably got into acting cause he thought it would get him girls. Ive met many guys in bands, athletes, or trying to crack entertainment bus. that are total AFCs so i still believe this show was somewhat real

 

[STR8UP]

Then why didn't any of their students manage nothing more than a couple of kiss closes with a couple of sub 7's during the entire PUA series?

Some of you can't seem to get it through your heads that they were filming a TV SHOW. That means that what you are seeing doesn't necessarily correlate to the actual timeline of the filming. They could have (and probably did) film this over the course of 2-3 weeks, NOT the 7 or whatever it might appear.

These guys kept using the same lame-ass opinion openers over and over.

Probably due to TIME CONSTRAINTS I already mentioned. They got a distilled version.

Tell me, how what kind of success have you had with MM, or are you just a starstruck fanboy?

I'm not a fan at all. And I have nothing to do with SS, MM or anything else that has to do with a "method" for picking up women. I do, however, have a firm grasp on what makes women tick, and I can tell you that most everything i have read or watched coming from the seduction community is based upon sound principals and has the potential to improve your game with women.

All you have to do is watch Mystery give a play by play watching one of the guys interacting with women and you can tell that he knows his sh!t.

That said.....throw a bunch of socially awkward guys together, some of whom have probably never even seen a woman naked, and give them two or three weeks of exposure to a completely new and overwhelming concept, and what do you expect? You think they are gonna be getting laid like rock stars in a month after trying to overcome a lifetime of bad programming?

 

[STR8UP]

All I'm saying is women have pride. They don't beg "please, please, please" see me again in front of their friends like that. What they do behind the scenes however, that's a different story.

That's funny.....I seem to remember a few times in my life where I have had that happen......

 

[Agent Zero]

They really should have hired more actors so they could have had some hot girls get picked up in those clubs.

 

[Holland]

- When Kip's number close kept saying "I'm going to be very upset if I never hear from you again" that was totally fake. Girl's don't say that kind of stuff. You can tell they (the producers of the show) were just trying to impress us with kosmo's supposed teaching abilities and to further advertise the Mystery Method.

I had similar experiences as well. Don't be so judgemental.
I think most of the show is real, because most of the interactions seemed pretty genuine. I hope they will do another one of these shows, but I hope they will cut out the elimation, so the students get some more time to improve before their arses are being sent home. It would've been really awesome if we would've seen a Scott transformation for instance.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

... We could put together a handful of guys from this forum that could outgame every last one of those guys (and kick Pradeep's ass to boot). [/I]

a "handful"?

i thought i had the lowest opinion of the skills of your typical SS keyboard jockey. i think (know for a fact) that we could put together a handful of guys from here who could outgame Mystery, Matador, and that other dude, quite easily.

honestly, i bet there are two thousand guys on here who can outperform the shows' AFCs, with just a little tiny push in the right direction.

add a $50,000 carrot to the mix...???

those guys, while much improved and kudos to them, are still pathetic. to proclaim Kosmo as a Master PUA is preposterous.

sorry guys....anyone who starts bragging about how they can outperform these guys, it's saying much. so they got a few phone numbers and a few "kiss closes". BFD. no one here knows how many crash n burns they actually had to get this "success". it could very well have been 10 hard burns that were not included, for every 1 success. those numbers fall into the random chance category.

i didn't watch all episodes, but not one of these dudes got laid, right?

 

[TooColdUlrick]

Kosmo and Brady actually did a better job of teaching their students in one day than Mystery and his crew did in one month.

it's a tv show, and who knows how it actually went down, but indeed they did. AFCs teaching AFCs and they actually did pretty damn well. Kosmo's AFC actually had a very sweet pickup for a complete rookie. he could have laid that chick no problem.

that sums it all up, and was a subtle, but scathing, indictment of the Mystery Method (or whatever it's called this week), and Mystery himself. i'm pretty sure that Mystery would have a say in the final edits, but he ended up punking himself, pretty badly.

 

[Derek Flint]

it's a tv show, and who knows how it actually went down, but indeed they did. AFCs teaching AFCs and they actually did pretty damn well. Kosmo's AFC actually had a very sweet pickup for a complete rookie. he could have laid that chick no problem.

that sums it all up, and was a subtle, but scathing, indictment of the Mystery Method (or whatever it's called this week), and Mystery himself. i'm pretty sure that Mystery would have a say in the final edits, but he ended up punking himself, pretty badly.

I agree with everything you said.

 

[STR8UP]

i didn't watch all episodes, but not one of these dudes got laid, right?

Again.....this is a TELEVISION SHOW.

They didn't put this on the air to teach me and you how to get chicks into bed. Did you even hear them MENTION getting laid more than a handful of times during the entire series? No? Why not? Because they weren't catering this show specifically to guys who are out to get laid. If they promoted and edited this show as a "get laid quick" method it may or may not have gotten better ratings. But the thing is, the show was on VH1, and I doubt the powers that be were willing to take that risk on a somewhat less "edgy" network that probably caters more to 30 something MILFS than horny college guys.

Man, t.v. does have crazy influence over some people....

 

[BAMBU]

Yall gotta be out of your minds.

Ok so what if the show was scripted?

When they are out in the club using mysterys material, that is as real as it gets, how many of yall can go out and pick up a stripper without paying? exacly.

The show doesnt give all the secrets out but at least 70% of it is out in national TV

 

[ricorico]

Ok,

I want all of you guys who believe in the MM to go to strip clubs and bars tonight and put to use what you learned. If you really believe in what he teaches, it should be very easy to PU.

 

[eminence]

Ok,

I want all of you guys who believe in the MM to go to strip clubs and bars tonight and put to use what you learned. If you really believe in what he teaches, it should be very easy to PU.

yeah actually it is, maybe you should try it sometime.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

Yall gotta be out of your minds.

Ok so what if the show was scripted?

When they are out in the club using mysterys material, that is as real as it gets, how many of yall can go out and pick up a stripper without paying? exacly.

The show doesnt give all the secrets out but at least 70% of it is out in national TV

i have 10,000 tons of high quality scrap iron i need to unload. just pay me the shipping costs of $250,000 from Paris to your locale, and it's all yours. this is the real deal. i'm not joking. i have brokered similar deals to many satisfied customers. testimonials available upon request.

send payment to TooCold c/o Western Union.

PS: i will throw in a pair of genuine imitation 1920's Red Baron Goggles that you can wear to night clubs. you would be amazed at how these very special goggles, along with black fingernail polish, makeup, a goofy shirt, helps you pick up fat and ugly babes. this BONUS is has a value of $10,000, courtesy of Mystery.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

i'll repeat what i said on here several years ago...

these Master PUA's are a joke. their framework is largely based upon DHV (demonstrating higher value). fine, that works....

however, these same guys spend how much time, effort, and energy, for the sole purpose of picking up chicks? it's their life...long before they started selling this stuff to chumps. go to the old mASF boards and look at all of Mystery's posts.

the books, ebooks, theory, endless theory, goofy clothes, studying, more studying, workshops, seminars, more seminars, web sites, research and development, endless debate and discussion....praying.

and why you ask? to pick up chicks. how fukking sad.

this is not a demonstration of higher value, it's a demonstration of LOWER VALUE. you cannot demonstrate higher value when in your own mind you have LOWER VALUE in the first place, and your life is solely about picking up women.

they NEED women. they NEED to pick them up to feel secure. and thus, they have lower value.

Mystery is one fukked up, and very sad, dude. he is obsessed with strippers (very low value chicks, because he has low value, and he knows it), his dream is to hook up with two lesbian strippers, he downloads and whacks off to lesbian porn, he's had how many emotional breakdowns? (according to The Game, and elsewhere on his background).

yeah right, Mystery has high value.

anyone that does in fact have higher value does not feel the need to "demonstrate" it in a conscious way, let alone with little tricks. those that do feel the need to demonstrate higher value, do not have it in the first place, and must manufacture it in clever ways, such as card tricks...sock puppets...and wearing goofy RED BARON GOGGLES.

if Mystery and the like would have spent 1/2 their time improving their LIVES, they would be 10x as successful in LIFE, and therefore automatically "demonstrate" higher value, based upon the social pecking order that does exist.

the man that has higher value does not need to wear RED BARON GOGGLES TO PICK UP CHICKS.

do you remember the one chick he was gaming for 90 seconds? she was an HB4. it stands to reason that they would air him gaming at least an HB8? but nope, and HB4.

the dog and pony show will get you only so far. Mystery is a novelty act. period.


EPISODE XX:

okay guys, let's all go to a strip club, for an ultimate pickup, by demonstrating higher value to a low grade slvt who spreads her legs for money. but it's very important that she does not consider you a "client", so don't give this slvt any money, okay. but do mention before hand that you do have a limo waiting outside, so you can fool yourself into thinking you actually picked up a slvt. that's the plan, guys.

 

[Trendsetter]

this is why innocent people get killed everyday, becaus of haters like you guys. Stop hating and downing the mystery method. The 4hit works. Just because you dont want to use the mm or don't agree with histactics doesnt mean his stuff dont work. turst me, I know, I was sitting watching the show with my g/f and she even told me the $hit works, and she's not a fat ug5.

Just because u have success with your "direct method" or whatever u use don't mean u gotta keep putting someone down on everyother reply to this thread.

Trust me, I know what wors, mm works, direct method works, juggler works..all those methods work.

I use mm sometimes, I go juggler, and I go myself because I have personality my damn self so I know everything works. Just ecause I use mm, doesnt mean Ill put down the direct method every chance i get.

...and what is up with you guys being dissappointed that no one got laid, its a f*cking tv show, not a porno, u dissappointed because you didnt see kosmo smashing up any butt naked biitches. Rent a flick or watch an episode of nip/tuck if you're ryna see 4hit like that.

holla

Trendsetter aka Williesacks

 

[BAMBU]

this is why innocent people get killed everyday, becaus of haters like you guys. Stop hating and downing the mystery method. The 4hit works. Just because you dont want to use the mm or don't agree with histactics doesnt mean his stuff dont work. turst me, I know, I was sitting watching the show with my g/f and she even told me the $hit works, and she's not a fat ug5.

Just because u have success with your "direct method" or whatever u use don't mean u gotta keep putting someone down on everyother reply to this thread.

Trust me, I know what wors, mm works, direct method works, juggler works..all those methods work.

I use mm sometimes, I go juggler, and I go myself because I have personality my damn self so I know everything works. Just ecause I use mm, doesnt mean Ill put down the direct method every chance i get.

...and what is up with you guys being dissappointed that no one got laid, its a f*cking tv show, not a porno, u dissappointed because you didnt see kosmo smashing up any butt naked biitches. Rent a flick or watch an episode of nip/tuck if you're ryna see 4hit like that.

holla

Trendsetter aka Williesacks

Enough said.

As A Matter of fact me myself, i did not believe in his method when i first heared of him and i thought that he was a straight up afc , and all the words in the book, until i actually decided to try some of his stuff just for the hell of it.
The sh!t does work

 

[Ace of Flames]

I think most of us can agree that the actual Mystery Method is a viable source of seduction knowledge in our community, and that the TV show didn't portray it or Mystery himself in the greatest light.

Now, everyone has their preference of style. Some may be total believers and followers of MM, some may totally hate it, others mix and match certain bits of it. Regardless of how you personally view MM, you must admit that it has its strong points. You can support something without subscribing to it yourself.

I personally believe there is something to learn from every style, every 'guru'. Even all of the AFCs you see posting around here can help you in some small way. Probably just reminding you of what you used to be or could have stooped to had you not decided to improve your life, and therefore, strengthening your resolve that much more.

Certainly, there is little to nothing to gain from the constant hating you see here, bashing Mystery, and even our own brothers.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Certainly, there is little to nothing to gain from the constant hating you see here, bashing Mystery, and even our own brothers.

Self validation?