Pimp-sicle
Master Don Juan
Huh? One at most only needs 6 hours in between sessions as long as it's not something like doing heavy back work than 6 hours later doing heavy ass leg work with free weights. Many people do two a days, it's nothing new and as long as sessions are brief they're great.
Still confused on your suggestion here; if your suggesting two weight sessions one at night and another the following morning I whole heartly DISAGREE with your advice; Kaliex isn't a top level athlete who's dedicating his entire life to this, he's a changing into a healthy living lifestyle and trying to get fit. If on the other hand your suggesting weights in the evening and then cardio the following morning, then I think that's just fine. Although again, for weight loss I think people believe running til you die is the best way to accomplish that goal, which is completely wrong. Effective cardio is all about intesity rather than overall duration. Hell I get the best cardio workouts from sprinting and heavy ropes.
Are you serious how is splenda bad? It's only maltodextrin and dextrose both derived from corn used sparingly it's fine, unless he's dumping around a cups worth in one setting he has nothing to really worry about. I like the novella brand stuff cause it's like splenda with probiotics in it.
Yes a little here and there most likely won't cause problems but why even ingest artifical sweeteners? I'm a big believer in if its completely man made its not good for you. The main problem with Splenda from all my research is that some people can't properly digest it; it literally just takes up residence in your intestines; sucralose is a crap sugar anyways, if he's trying to lean out and lose the gut sucralose should not be part of the equation in any amounts.
http://www.drmercola.net/2009/04/dangers-of-splenda-and-sucralose_17.html
Now onto big bad ol Aspartame....hhahaa Taken from here .....http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=74032
From Dr. Layne Norton himself, guy knows more about nutrition and the body in general than both of us combined.
I'm familar with Layne Norton, think he's a smart dude and he definitely knows his stuff, however I completely disagree with him here. One thing you need to understand is bodybuilding and caring for your health are two completely different things. What I mean is almost all bodybuilders only care about how they look; are they holding water? Are their biceps striated enough? Are they lacking size in their quads? They pay little attention to heal consequences of their lifestyle over the short and long haul. Hell Layne just flat out dissed organic food and referred to them as "cult tree-huggers." The difference in quality and taste of true organic food compared to regular food is so dramatic it should be common hat for everyone to eat as much organic as possible. I'm sure Layne's done his research but I didn't see any evidence of it in that little blurp you posted.
Again I'll harp on the fact that aspartame is completely man made, something I've learned not to trust with the toxicity they pass off for food and such these days. I'm not a huge Mercola fan, I know a lot of people think he's a spazz but he has lots of good advice on various health topics like sweeteners, soy etc. Also the fact that aspartame was initially not suppose to be for human consumption has to make you think a little.
http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/dangers.htm
If he does short 40-45 minutes sessions 4-5 times a week and morning cardio any days he can. He'll get to his goals that much faster, ask what a natty bodybuilder does when he's dropping a **** load of fat prepping for a contest...daily cardio and still lifts weights hitting muscle groups at least twice a week. His biggest priority should be a good weight training frequency to preserve muscle as much as possible and doing daily cardio. One of those 4-5 days being a circuit type routine.
I know your into bodybuilding and you clearly do have solid knowledge on this avenue, but why do you keep using bodybuilding as examples for regular guys looking to get in shape? Is Kaliex going to be doing a contest in 6 months? No Is Kaliex trying to be a bodybuilder? No Is Kaliex in the physical condition right now to handle working major bodyparts twice a week right now? No
Your advice will lead to over-training in a flash. Secondly, he'll gain size following your advice but he won't lose the gut, which he's indicated is his primary goal.
I agree 100% with the coconut cooking oil, yet some medium temp cooking with olive oil is just as good. extra virgin coconut oil is a crock of ****, one should just look for "virgin" coconut oil. The other stuff marked up "extra virgin" is not any better and is usually pricier.
Macadamia nut oil is another good one. Hell Kailex don't even hesitate to drop a tablespoon or two of olive oil/macadamia nut oil in a protein shake here or there through out the day.
I think the big thing is to just make sure whatever oil he chooses is not deodorized or processed in any way. Many virgin coconut oils are not organic (which usually means its processed or de-odorized). I'm interested in Macadamia nut oil; sounds like it would be good! I'll have to try that out.
Agree there's no cookie cutter diet/training method. I can get away with eating a **** load of carbs, most can't or can only eat moderate amounts.
I think a good starting point for most is, moderate amount of carbs for breakfast, good load before training and just protein+fat meals for the rest of the day. Especially if close to bed time. After training your body has a huge window for many, many hours to take in carbs. So before training and earlier in the day is when one should load quite a bit. If you sit on your ass all day at work one should have common sense and do some trial and error with carbs/calories.
Solid advice here for the most part; I also don't believe in the standard low carb for weight loss or high everything when bulking. Everyone responds differently and should use proper judgement. I also completely DO NOT believe in the need for fast digesting carbs post workout. For the average guy, working out 40 minutes to an hour a few times a week, he will NOT deplete glycogen storages that easily, especially if he's eating carbs earlier in the day, everyday. This is a fad that the supplement industry pushed on us. Distance runners, endurance athletes? Yeah they need to refill glycogen, weightlifters don't. Alan Argon has many good write ups on this topic.
yes sir, Redmond's or Celtic sea salt, two of the best on the market. Pickles are ok too.
Yeah I'm using Pacific Sea Salt; completely natural and unrefined, but i'm going to pick up some Celtic next time.
I accidently deleted the part where you mentioned not going below 2,000 calories a day. You do have solid points here as well, but I think its just a matter of how much energy Kaliex is expending throughout the day. If he's following a more hardcore workout routine, he'll need his calories bummed up a bit, if he's doing a few sessions a week and sedentary the rest of the week, he'll need to cut calories or he won't see results. Again this is something he'll have to use some trial and error to figure out.
Good debate here Carlitos; even though we clearly disagree on some stuff, I still respect your advice and I know your just trying to help. I was emersed in the bodybuilding lifestyle from my early 20's all the way until a couple years ago. My opinion now is bodybuilding and bodybuilders pay little attention to long term health consequences of all the supplements and foods they eat; its all about the size of my guns? Or the lean-ness of my hammys... I still care about all that stuff and want to look my best, but I just care more about making sure I'm not ingesting loads of crap in the process.
PIMP
Still confused on your suggestion here; if your suggesting two weight sessions one at night and another the following morning I whole heartly DISAGREE with your advice; Kaliex isn't a top level athlete who's dedicating his entire life to this, he's a changing into a healthy living lifestyle and trying to get fit. If on the other hand your suggesting weights in the evening and then cardio the following morning, then I think that's just fine. Although again, for weight loss I think people believe running til you die is the best way to accomplish that goal, which is completely wrong. Effective cardio is all about intesity rather than overall duration. Hell I get the best cardio workouts from sprinting and heavy ropes.
Are you serious how is splenda bad? It's only maltodextrin and dextrose both derived from corn used sparingly it's fine, unless he's dumping around a cups worth in one setting he has nothing to really worry about. I like the novella brand stuff cause it's like splenda with probiotics in it.
Yes a little here and there most likely won't cause problems but why even ingest artifical sweeteners? I'm a big believer in if its completely man made its not good for you. The main problem with Splenda from all my research is that some people can't properly digest it; it literally just takes up residence in your intestines; sucralose is a crap sugar anyways, if he's trying to lean out and lose the gut sucralose should not be part of the equation in any amounts.
http://www.drmercola.net/2009/04/dangers-of-splenda-and-sucralose_17.html
Now onto big bad ol Aspartame....hhahaa Taken from here .....http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=74032
From Dr. Layne Norton himself, guy knows more about nutrition and the body in general than both of us combined.
I'm familar with Layne Norton, think he's a smart dude and he definitely knows his stuff, however I completely disagree with him here. One thing you need to understand is bodybuilding and caring for your health are two completely different things. What I mean is almost all bodybuilders only care about how they look; are they holding water? Are their biceps striated enough? Are they lacking size in their quads? They pay little attention to heal consequences of their lifestyle over the short and long haul. Hell Layne just flat out dissed organic food and referred to them as "cult tree-huggers." The difference in quality and taste of true organic food compared to regular food is so dramatic it should be common hat for everyone to eat as much organic as possible. I'm sure Layne's done his research but I didn't see any evidence of it in that little blurp you posted.
Again I'll harp on the fact that aspartame is completely man made, something I've learned not to trust with the toxicity they pass off for food and such these days. I'm not a huge Mercola fan, I know a lot of people think he's a spazz but he has lots of good advice on various health topics like sweeteners, soy etc. Also the fact that aspartame was initially not suppose to be for human consumption has to make you think a little.
http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/dangers.htm
If he does short 40-45 minutes sessions 4-5 times a week and morning cardio any days he can. He'll get to his goals that much faster, ask what a natty bodybuilder does when he's dropping a **** load of fat prepping for a contest...daily cardio and still lifts weights hitting muscle groups at least twice a week. His biggest priority should be a good weight training frequency to preserve muscle as much as possible and doing daily cardio. One of those 4-5 days being a circuit type routine.
I know your into bodybuilding and you clearly do have solid knowledge on this avenue, but why do you keep using bodybuilding as examples for regular guys looking to get in shape? Is Kaliex going to be doing a contest in 6 months? No Is Kaliex trying to be a bodybuilder? No Is Kaliex in the physical condition right now to handle working major bodyparts twice a week right now? No
Your advice will lead to over-training in a flash. Secondly, he'll gain size following your advice but he won't lose the gut, which he's indicated is his primary goal.
I agree 100% with the coconut cooking oil, yet some medium temp cooking with olive oil is just as good. extra virgin coconut oil is a crock of ****, one should just look for "virgin" coconut oil. The other stuff marked up "extra virgin" is not any better and is usually pricier.
Macadamia nut oil is another good one. Hell Kailex don't even hesitate to drop a tablespoon or two of olive oil/macadamia nut oil in a protein shake here or there through out the day.
I think the big thing is to just make sure whatever oil he chooses is not deodorized or processed in any way. Many virgin coconut oils are not organic (which usually means its processed or de-odorized). I'm interested in Macadamia nut oil; sounds like it would be good! I'll have to try that out.
Agree there's no cookie cutter diet/training method. I can get away with eating a **** load of carbs, most can't or can only eat moderate amounts.
I think a good starting point for most is, moderate amount of carbs for breakfast, good load before training and just protein+fat meals for the rest of the day. Especially if close to bed time. After training your body has a huge window for many, many hours to take in carbs. So before training and earlier in the day is when one should load quite a bit. If you sit on your ass all day at work one should have common sense and do some trial and error with carbs/calories.
Solid advice here for the most part; I also don't believe in the standard low carb for weight loss or high everything when bulking. Everyone responds differently and should use proper judgement. I also completely DO NOT believe in the need for fast digesting carbs post workout. For the average guy, working out 40 minutes to an hour a few times a week, he will NOT deplete glycogen storages that easily, especially if he's eating carbs earlier in the day, everyday. This is a fad that the supplement industry pushed on us. Distance runners, endurance athletes? Yeah they need to refill glycogen, weightlifters don't. Alan Argon has many good write ups on this topic.
yes sir, Redmond's or Celtic sea salt, two of the best on the market. Pickles are ok too.
Yeah I'm using Pacific Sea Salt; completely natural and unrefined, but i'm going to pick up some Celtic next time.
I accidently deleted the part where you mentioned not going below 2,000 calories a day. You do have solid points here as well, but I think its just a matter of how much energy Kaliex is expending throughout the day. If he's following a more hardcore workout routine, he'll need his calories bummed up a bit, if he's doing a few sessions a week and sedentary the rest of the week, he'll need to cut calories or he won't see results. Again this is something he'll have to use some trial and error to figure out.
Good debate here Carlitos; even though we clearly disagree on some stuff, I still respect your advice and I know your just trying to help. I was emersed in the bodybuilding lifestyle from my early 20's all the way until a couple years ago. My opinion now is bodybuilding and bodybuilders pay little attention to long term health consequences of all the supplements and foods they eat; its all about the size of my guns? Or the lean-ness of my hammys... I still care about all that stuff and want to look my best, but I just care more about making sure I'm not ingesting loads of crap in the process.
PIMP
