Girls sleeping with you quickly is not a good thing

[RickTheToad]

As for the narratives put forth here, most are fallacies or naivety due to lack of experiences.

A woman can withhold sex with you for 3 months but yet have no reservations to sleep with another man the same night she met him.

Deep down many of you know this as facts.

Just because she withhold sex towards you doesn't means she high quality.

Timing and the right type of man plays a role in a women wanting to spread her legs.

That's the only truth.

BINGO.

 

[Serenity]

Some guys want to roll the dice and play the waiting game, cool. Different strokes for different folks. The end game is still the same.

I agree. Everyone has a different style. Maybe I am too judgmental about women sexuality idk but its just what I believe. I could be wrong. I need to travel more to experience how women of different nations handle sex.

Just to be clear about my opinion. I don't care if they're fast or slow, but my experience up to now is that going fast has a lower chance of being successful. I don't judge if they fvck on the first date or the 20th, I actually prefer quicker though so I can see if we work sexually, but waiting isn't a deal breaker just by itself. I look at other things to determine if they're worth the time and effort. Fvcking me right away won't by itself make me assume she's low quality, waiting won't make me assume she's high quality. I need more indicators to make accurate judgements.

As for the narratives put forth here, most are fallacies or naivety due to lack of experiences.

Not necessarily.

A woman can withhold sex with you for 3 months but yet have no reservations to sleep with another man the same night she met him.

She can, but that doesn't mean every woman definitely will.

Deep down many of you know this as facts.

It is a fact that some women do this.

Just because she withhold sex towards you doesn't means she high quality.

I absolutely agree, as mentioned in my first paragraph.

Timing and the right type of man plays a role in a women wanting to spread her legs.

Definitely!

 

[Epic Days]

Much of seduction is focused on getting a girl to sleep with you as quickly as possible. I have found that i become depressed when a girl sleeps with me quickly. This is because i know that it will not usually work out. Girls that sleep with men very quickly are usually very impulsive. Easy come....easy go. Their interest in you was quick and intense. Just like that they will be able to become emotionally frigid. This is especially true if they dont run into you at all in their everyday existence.

This is a moral code issue. Keep in mind that you are viewing from your viewpoint. Thus there is a lot a personal interpretation in it. I've experienced this feeling of her having less value after sex as well.

So tackle it one part at a time...Your moral code: If she sleeps with me right away = she does this a lot and thus she is low value. (from your viewpoint and belief system)
This can and does reflect in how you interact with her from that point on. The women can interpret a phenomenal amount of social cues almost instantaneously. Her going cold can most definitely be a reflection of what you are thinking of her as your moral code and beliefs about her will reflect back. She doesn't have the analytical power that you have so this is her "tool bag" to survive.

So you reflect back to her that she is a low value tramp. She will immediately introvert and become self conscious. If you wanted to see her again, you can't do this. I see a lot of interpretation from your moral lens in your post. I am not against any moral code. Just remember that you are in control of this and not her. She absolutely cannot help what she feels when your interpretation of her reflects back to her. Accept responsibility that you created this. What you do is your choice. If you are leading of course.

There is nothing wrong with manhandling her a little bit. If you want to see her again then pull her up off the bed and yank her into you and kiss her and TELLING her you want to see her again. A woman does like the feeling of being "owned". Not smothered or stupid SIMP stuff. Help her put those panties back on and spank that a$$ when you get them up. Keep in mind, when I do things like that it's genuine. She wants to be that "princess" that the dark knight takes. Feeling powerless against him makes her feel appreciated.

Of course this is a matter of frame. I've read a lot of posts going back pretty far in the short time I've been here and there seems to be some flashback about using the word "frame". Well, you tell me what word best fits. So because frame is way overused and the concept is difficult to internalize, lets try something new. I thought of a way to communicate it...

The relationship goes from you to her not from her to you. It's a flow thing. being raised in the Feminine Imperative you are wanting the "flow" to go from her to you so that you can adjust and operate correctly, you are reactionary, you are doing it wrong. This is HIGHLY submissive. It's not even what a woman wants.
That is a relinquish of masculine power. Believe me...I've lived more than a few years thinking that life flowed in the direction from woman to man because of the way I was raised and the influences of the Feminine Imperative. Just look how women are acting. They are reversing the flow due to influences of socialist/communist influences. Feminism IS the influences of the Bolsheviks. Their idea, theoretically is to achieve a baseline where there is a flow from feminine to masculine. Actually there is no intent from them to help women in the least. It's about wrecking the foundation of family, pair bonding and individualism. You may not see this now, and many wont, but its true. Nothing going on today is an accident.

Life flows from you to her. That's frame. The only reason she is there to start with is you started off with life flowing from you to her. Men give life. Some say being sarcastic and making her laugh is a good tactic. Well you are giving her life.
A woman doesn't grow a child from immaculate conception. A man gives it life. Men give women life. I know that this is a completely inverted way of thinking and I wouldn't use it unless it were true. Command is flow. It flows out and down to her. This is what she can trust and will willing submit herself to it. When you send a text...it is a command. If you haven't reversed the flow in any of your interactions, she will come.

 

[AbleDad]

I'm a high-value guy. I find that when I meet a lady with lower value (most women), I need a few dates to let her know that I value her.

In contrast, when I meet a lady with my value or higher (rare), I need to show some self-confidence to let her know that my value is real. Sex happens faster.

So, my experience is the opposite of what most guys post on here. Maybe that's because I value relationships (not necessarily marriage) instead of casual sex (been there, done that).

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Much of seduction is focused on getting a girl to sleep with you as quickly as possible. I have found that i become depressed when a girl sleeps with me quickly. This is because i know that it will not usually work out. Girls that sleep with men very quickly are usually very impulsive. Easy come....easy go. Their interest in you was quick and intense. Just like that they will be able to become emotionally frigid. This is especially true if they dont run into you at all in their everyday existence.

9/10 times a girl that sleeps with you the first night is not emotionally stable. Even girls that sleep with you within the first few encounters are not emotionally stable. They always have some catch. This sucks because it takes a long time for a guy to get good enough to even have a girl sleep with him early. All of the manosphere advice encourages this.

The ideal situation is a girl that shows consistent high interest, but has the emotional maturity to gradually escalate the physicality. These are the girls that stick around the longest. But they are also the rarest.

Now when i sleep with a girl very quickly i become depressed while laying the bed. This is because i know that this will not last ( this was not true say 10 yrs ago). She is either BPD, or she is very emotionally capricious and impulsive. These are not good traits. Now there are exceptions and i have found them. But this is rare.

If they are emotionally healthy and they sleep with you early they often get buyers remorse and feel guilty. They will then ignore your texts even if you are a great guy. Its like you cant win. The game is rigged. If you sleep with them too soon you lose. You sleep with them too late..you lose. You dont sleep with them at all....you really lose. I am just about done. Maybe MGTOW guys where not so crazy after all.

Sex you wait for is never worth the wait.

Post pics of a girl worthy of waiting. Chad or Tyrone went ass to mouth same night lay.

Smash or next fellas.

 

[sazc]

I'm a high-value guy. I find that when I meet a lady with lower value (most women), I need a few dates to let her know that I value her.

LMFAO ummmm, okay

 

[sazc]

Girls with lowere self esteem (not that attractive) do seem more resistant to high value people as they think they will be “used” girls with high value will eventually fall into the frame of the high value man as that is how the sexes are wired

That or maybe they aren't "feeling" the 'high value' vibe he is emitting (because he is FULL of himself)

 

[Spaz]

I'm a high-value guy. I find that when I meet a lady with lower value (most women), I need a few dates to let her know that I value her.

In contrast, when I meet a lady with my value or higher (rare), I need to show some self-confidence to let her know that my value is real. Sex happens faster.

So, my experience is the opposite of what most guys post on here. Maybe that's because I value relationships (not necessarily marriage) instead of casual sex (been there, done that).

Hahahaha

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I agree. Everyone has a different style. Maybe I am too judgmental about women sexuality idk but its just what I believe. I could be wrong. I need to travel more to experience how women of different nations handle sex.

Let me save you the time. If alpha, if smv is high, she is digesting your proteins and getting smashed rotten.

My best relationships have started passionately, so I disagree. I just see this as a part of getting the dynamics that I want/think best.

Agreed. Its natural. The hamster wheel of women in 2019 is going nuts. Do nothing for men. Crater SMV and false accusations after best years.

After absurd years of pickup, I can count the amount of awesome women i met on a hand. Again, the sex waiting for is never worth it.

Attacking e@ch other with private parts ftw!

 

[Robert28]

Let me save you the time. If alpha, if smv is high, she is digesting your proteins and getting smashed rotten.


Agreed. Its natural. The hamster wheel of women in 2019 is going nuts. Do nothing for men. Crater SMV and false accusations after best years.

After absurd years of pickup, I can count the amount of awesome women i met on a hand. Again, the sex waiting for is never worth it.

Attacking e@ch other with private parts ftw!

And if they’ve made you wait, there’s a 99% chance you’re never going to get sex anyways. The longer you wait the smaller your chances get. All the excuses in the world they’ll give you why they’re stalling you getting sex are to be ignored.

 

[John9999]

Much of seduction is focused on getting a girl to sleep with you as quickly as possible. I have found that i become depressed when a girl sleeps with me quickly. This is because i know that it will not usually work out. Girls that sleep with men very quickly are usually very impulsive. Easy come....easy go. Their interest in you was quick and intense. Just like that they will be able to become emotionally frigid. This is especially true if they dont run into you at all in their everyday existence.

9/10 times a girl that sleeps with you the first night is not emotionally stable. Even girls that sleep with you within the first few encounters are not emotionally stable. They always have some catch. This sucks because it takes a long time for a guy to get good enough to even have a girl sleep with him early. All of the manosphere advice encourages this.

The ideal situation is a girl that shows consistent high interest, but has the emotional maturity to gradually escalate the physicality. These are the girls that stick around the longest. But they are also the rarest.

Now when i sleep with a girl very quickly i become depressed while laying the bed. This is because i know that this will not last ( this was not true say 10 yrs ago). She is either BPD, or she is very emotionally capricious and impulsive. These are not good traits. Now there are exceptions and i have found them. But this is rare.

If they are emotionally healthy and they sleep with you early they often get buyers remorse and feel guilty. They will then ignore your texts even if you are a great guy. Its like you cant win. The game is rigged. If you sleep with them too soon you lose. You sleep with them too late..you lose. You dont sleep with them at all....you really lose. I am just about done. Maybe MGTOW guys where not so crazy after all.

???? I thought this form was so swamped. Not I’m a man but I act like a girl. For God sake if a woman sleeps with you before you have to put out three dates and who knows how much money consider yourself lucky

 

[Pandora]

And if they’ve made you wait, there’s a 99% chance you’re never going to get sex anyways. The longer you wait the smaller your chances get. All the excuses in the world they’ll give you why they’re stalling you getting sex are to be ignored.

That is true. The longer you wait the less likely you are gonna get it. I am just wondering what happened to the middle ground. It used to be the 3 date rule. On the third date it was acceptable to smash. We gotta find balance.

Having sex on the first date is basically having sex with a stranger. Do you really want to be with a girl that has sex with strangers? Would you advise your daughter to put out quickly? No. But like a previous poster said we all have to adapt to the insanity or we will get left behind.

 

[Pandora]

My best relationships have started passionately, so I disagree. I just see this as a part of getting the dynamics that I want/think best.

I understand this and I agree. Its usually zero or 100 with these women. And define "passionately". Passionately could mean smash on the 3rd encounter which is still okay.

 

[jnMissouri]

Much of seduction is focused on getting a girl to sleep with you as quickly as possible. I have found that i become depressed when a girl sleeps with me quickly. This is because i know that it will not usually work out. Girls that sleep with men very quickly are usually very impulsive. Easy come....easy go. Their interest in you was quick and intense. Just like that they will be able to become emotionally frigid. This is especially true if they dont run into you at all in their everyday existence.

9/10 times a girl that sleeps with you the first night is not emotionally stable. Even girls that sleep with you within the first few encounters are not emotionally stable. They always have some catch. This sucks because it takes a long time for a guy to get good enough to even have a girl sleep with him early. All of the manosphere advice encourages this.

The ideal situation is a girl that shows consistent high interest, but has the emotional maturity to gradually escalate the physicality. These are the girls that stick around the longest. But they are also the rarest.

Now when i sleep with a girl very quickly i become depressed while laying the bed. This is because i know that this will not last ( this was not true say 10 yrs ago). She is either BPD, or she is very emotionally capricious and impulsive. These are not good traits. Now there are exceptions and i have found them. But this is rare.

If they are emotionally healthy and they sleep with you early they often get buyers remorse and feel guilty. They will then ignore your texts even if you are a great guy. Its like you cant win. The game is rigged. If you sleep with them too soon you lose. You sleep with them too late..you lose. You dont sleep with them at all....you really lose. I am just about done. Maybe MGTOW guys where not so crazy after all.

Totally, true, I recently had this realization looking back at my dates and relationships after a bad experience with a crazy impulsive girl who slept with me very quickly. Caused me to look back and see a pattern in my life. Even the first message I sent her online she responded right away with her number (because she was getting off the OLD site) when I didn't even ask for it. Pursued and suggested dates, wanted to see me more right away.

 

[Pandora]

Totally, true, I recently had this realization looking back at my dates and relationships after a bad experience with a crazy impulsive girl who slept with me very quickly. Caused me to look back and see a pattern in my life. Even the first message I sent her online she responded right away with her number (because she was getting off the OLD site) when I didn't even ask for it. Pursued and suggested dates, wanted to see me more right away.

Exactly. I keep trying to tell some of these dudes that mentally healthy girls don't let a stranger into their uterus. Promiscuous behavior is either a sign of severe mental issues ( cluster B disorders) or the girl is going through a very rough patch in her life. Happy, sane and content girls do not sleep with men within the first or second encounter. Easy come easy go. There are exceptions as some posters have noted.

 

[jnMissouri]

Exactly. I keep trying to tell some of these dudes that mentally healthy girls don't let a stranger into their uterus. Promiscuous behavior is either a sign of severe mental issues ( cluster B disorders) or the girl is going through a very rough patch in her life. Happy, sane and content girls do not sleep with men within the first or second encounter. Easy come easy go. There are exceptions as some posters have noted.

Yeah, it didn't dawn on me until I read this article by Chase Amante, and it all made sense all of a sudden. It explained my situation to a freaking T. Crazy girls are easier, way easier than sane girls. They will pursue YOU. I thought about not only my current situation with a side girlfriend, but also past dates and relationships with girls that fit this. There's a channel I started watching on youtube recently that talks about this as well. The guy said to avoid these women, only fools focus on quantity over quality. I'm starting to think that's true. I noticed most of my hookups were with girls that were hot, but losers in life in general, living with their parents in their 20's and 30's, unable to hold down a job, a looooong string of failed marriages and relationships.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/hotcrazy-girls-are-easier-hotsane-girls

 

[Robert28]

Its been the complete opposite for me. The girl that’s had 100 ****s run through her are the hardest for me to score with but the ones that haven’t are not all that difficult. I guess my game just doesn’t work on slvts with kids that have been around the block and have all sorts of issues mentally. Lucky me.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

That is true. The longer you wait the less likely you are gonna get it. I am just wondering what happened to the middle ground. It used to be the 3 date rule. On the third date it was acceptable to smash. We gotta find balance.

Having sex on the first date is basically having sex with a stranger. Do you really want to be with a girl that has sex with strangers? Would you advise your daughter to put out quickly? No. But like a previous poster said we all have to adapt to the insanity or we will get left behind.

Balance is the mating call of the losers.

Smash or #next.

Hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day. This herein lies the pushback on open hypergamy.

You wouldn't tell your daughter to Crater SMV. And yet, for alpha seed, all your teaching are **** compared to her attempts to optimization of her hypergamy.

Its not an argument. Phaggotry waits.

Its gay but, in the doxing and feminists hit piece, it needs to be disclosed, obv, no means no.

LMR, low sex drive, ambiguity = #nextSet!

There's a reason why the 3 date is gold standard in the mansophere.

The same skank that makes you wait is going ass to mouth with a Tyrone. More than once. I digress.


Allocate Time to women who are dtf and overly motivated by you.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Exactly. I keep trying to tell some of these dudes that mentally healthy girls don't let a stranger into their uterus. Promiscuous behavior is either a sign of severe mental issues ( cluster B disorders) or the girl is going through a very rough patch in her life. Happy, sane and content girls do not sleep with men within the first or second encounter. Easy come easy go. There are exceptions as some posters have noted.

You seek a magic pill.

Take your stunner who isn't in the mood. Take Drake or any other guy women like, and she's getting destroyed. There's a blue pill blind spot you got going on. Women ****. It msy mot be you or i but she will **** someone else.

Deeming otherwise is extremely naive on you.

 

[Pandora]

Balance is the mating call of the losers.

There's a reason why the 3 date is gold standard in the mansophere.

The same skank that makes you wait is going ass to mouth with a Tyrone. More than once. I digress.

3rd date is a good balance. I agree.