Girls saying yes to bl0wjobs and no to sex.

[Master Bates]

My ex told me that she always had to see it before she decided if she was gonna sleep with a guy. She said it was because there were guys who were just too small, a lot of them, and a few too big, very rare. There was this one guy who did everything perfect, but all she could think of was "if he was 1 inch longer, he would be perfect", so she could not bring herself to keep dating him.

So she had a big vagina. gotcha.

They usually show me their pinky when describing the size of the guy that they turned down for sex.

holy sh1t, if that's what we're talking about then nevermind. I had no idea there are that many pinky-size d1cks.

 

[RedPill]

And there's always the possibility she's bangin' some other guy and what you two are doing is not technically s3x (in her mind).

Whether it's bangin' some other guy, religion, or 'promiscuity guilt' trying to keep her fukk count low, 9 out of 10 times this is the explanation.

 

[lookyoung]

Haha...I thought about this thread tonight. This girl drove 45 mins to pick me up (I sold my car today), we shot some pool where I treated her like sh1t, then proceeded to take a walk on a secluded trail, where she gave me a bl0wjob.

After I got off, she jokingly said, "At least someone got something out of this." And I made some smart a$$ remark like "Hey, you got a free protein shake." Anyway, she was like, "And when am I gonna get some oral?"

And I thought, "Somewhere there's some women's forum like this where there's a thread titled, 'Guys who say yes to getting bl0wjobs and no to eating you out.'"

God, I'm fvcked up.

LOL! But see your an alphamale and that is why this girl blew you on the trail. You telling her at least someone got a protein shake is alpha. Girls love guys who are aggressive and don't give a fvck what they say. This shows confidence.

Now if you were one of the guys on sosuave who asks should I call her? you would have been at home beating off to a porno.

Me personally when a girl is giving me head I love talking sh1t to them. The key is to know that your the man and your doing this girl a favor by having her blow you.

Walk around with an attitude. Once you get that swagger going woman will flock to you.

 

[joekerr31]

come on guys, none of you have stated the obvious yet.

a woman will give you a bj but NOT sex as a method of p*ssy whipping you before she sleeps with you.

the first stage of the male female dynamic is to establish dominance. who is 51% in control of the relationship and who is 49% in control.

if she gives you a bj but no sex, she's trying to get you hooked. its kind of like a drug dealer giving you a sample. sure its free, but you'll be paying down the road if you want more.

also, a lot of women fear that once they give it up, THAT is when they will find out if you like them or not. because there are guys who once they get laid, lose interest in the woman. or they start treating her badly.

this way she gets to see how you will behave AFTER blowing your load, while not sleeping with you yet.

as for penis size, you don't hav eto give a guy a bj to find that out. its just as easy for her to slip her hands down his pants.

anyway, 99% of the reason women do anything is to gain greater control over the man. to get herself up on a pedastle in his eyes - or at least to make herself the prize.

she probably thought that once she gave you a bj that you'd follow her around like a puppy dog begging for the full course.

 

[Latinoman]

I hate to point this out to you but maybe your penis is too small for her. Put on five condoms and I bet she'll let you do her in no time.

Or it could be that she has issues with her body (or is menstruating) ...and wants to make sure he falls deeply for her BJs...and hopefully accept any perceived deficiency (women are wired weird) she might have (or think has).

I mean...she STILL gave him intercourse a later date.

 

[Latinoman]

For all you newbies, or meek at heart, pay attention to this post.

If you are always looking escalate and get as far as possible, establish that you are not there to be a girlfriend or a nice guy, you will, at least half the time, end up further than you might think.

Most guys here are on their 3-4th date and they still don't know where they stand with a particular woman. Always escalate. Worst thing that can happen is that they make you wait until the second date for some hot monkey love.

I agree with this. Before I even go in an "official" date. I ALREADY know where I stand. Well...I have probably kissed her or phucked her already.

 

[Latinoman]

come on guys, none of you have stated the obvious yet.

a woman will give you a bj but NOT sex as a method of p*ssy whipping you before she sleeps with you.

the first stage of the male female dynamic is to establish dominance. who is 51% in control of the relationship and who is 49% in control.

if she gives you a bj but no sex, she's trying to get you hooked. its kind of like a drug dealer giving you a sample. sure its free, but you'll be paying down the road if you want more.

also, a lot of women fear that once they give it up, THAT is when they will find out if you like them or not. because there are guys who once they get laid, lose interest in the woman. or they start treating her badly.

this way she gets to see how you will behave AFTER blowing your load, while not sleeping with you yet.

as for penis size, you don't hav eto give a guy a bj to find that out. its just as easy for her to slip her hands down his pants.

anyway, 99% of the reason women do anything is to gain greater control over the man. to get herself up on a pedastle in his eyes - or at least to make herself the prize.

she probably thought that once she gave you a bj that you'd follow her around like a puppy dog begging for the full course.

This is the answer (see above).

 

[TooColdUlrick]

^^^^

no it's not. me on the sofa with manhood at full glory and her on her knees blowing me, me grabbing her hair a little bit, sucking nvts, etc...i think you see the vibe.

this is a very submissive gesture on HER part, and very dominant on MY part. we both know at that point who is dominant and who is not. that's why she's there doing that in the first place.

as far as just a bj and nothing more after that point, you should have already known that beforehand as well.

yes, if you've dated (fvcked, not "dated") more than 100 women, you have pretty much seen it all. yes indeed, most women definitely want to see what you're packing before she spreads her legs, esp if it's got LTR possibilities. actual sex (e.g. "making love"), she knows that she might get hooked on you emotionally, spiritually, etc. she definitely does not want to get attached to some dude with a 4 incher, or a 6 incher pencil dikk.

and yep, i've been with many women who've said their last BF was only "thiiiiiis big"...thumb and index finger very close to each other. i talked with one chick who said that when he entered her, she actually asked "is it in yet"? i feel very, very, very sorry for that dude. this chick said she would have really gone for him otherwise, but the "is it in yet" thingy totally killed the deal.

pretty funny, but size does matter. not that you have to be huge. above average and they'll come back. average, and you're okay so long as everything else is okay. smaller than average, you're probably okay. tiny little weenie, i think you're toast for the most part.

ugly weenie, regardless of size. you're toast too. i've heard it many times before..."he had a weird dikk", "ewe gross", etc etc etc.

 

[Latinoman]

^^^^

no it's not. me on the sofa with manhood at full glory and her on her knees blowing me, me grabbing her hair a little bit, sucking nvts, etc...i think you see the vibe.


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So...are you telling me you don't enjoy that...to the point you would love to do it again? Especially if she swallows you?

Dude...don't confuse the PERCEPTION of weakness with that of lacking control.


She is the one sucking you...she is the one in control. Period.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

^^^^

no it's not. me on the sofa with manhood at full glory and her on her knees blowing me, me grabbing her hair a little bit, sucking nvts, etc...i think you see the vibe.

this is a very submissive gesture on HER part, and very dominant on MY part. we both know at that point who is dominant and who is not. that's why she's there doing that in the first place.

as far as just a bj and nothing more after that point, you should have already known that beforehand as well.

yes, if you've dated (fvcked, not "dated") more than 100 women, you have pretty much seen it all. yes indeed, most women definitely want to see what you're packing before she spreads her legs, esp if it's got LTR possibilities. actual sex (e.g. "making love"), she knows that she might get hooked on you emotionally, spiritually, etc. she definitely does not want to get attached to some dude with a 4 incher, or a 6 incher pencil dikk.

and yep, i've been with many women who've said their last BF was only "thiiiiiis big"...thumb and index finger very close to each other. i talked with one chick who said that when he entered her, she actually asked "is it in yet"? i feel very, very, very sorry for that dude. this chick said she would have really gone for him otherwise, but the "is it in yet" thingy totally killed the deal.

pretty funny, but size does matter. not that you have to be huge. above average and they'll come back. average, and you're okay so long as everything else is okay. smaller than average, you're probably okay. tiny little weenie, i think you're toast for the most part.

ugly weenie, regardless of size. you're toast too. i've heard it many times before..."he had a weird dikk", "ewe gross", etc etc etc.

Exaclty. As I stated earlier. I haven't been with 100+ women, and I have seen it almost all. Totally agree with what he just said. Off course she wants to check out the goods. Just like a lot of us have see and even fooled around with a girl who had a nice rack, or maybe she didn't. Once her bra was off, we couldn't stop thinking of how dissapointing it was. Now imagine something more important than penis size, which actually determines the potential for her pleasure, and it is all relative as to what's the perfect size.

 

[joekerr31]

sorry guys, unless shes a wh*re she aint going to blow you just to find out how big your d*ck is. like i say, she can find that out by feeling you up.

and your nuts if you think her giving you a blow job is a submissive gesture. the only power a woman has is your desire for her - all women know this! this is why women are so insane about looks or anything else that applies to luring you in.

heck, what does it tell you when she pleases you but doesn't ask you to please her? i'll tell you what it tells you - it says 'im in control because YOU need this and I DO NOT. always remember that buddy, i DO NOT need to get laid, and YOU DO."

that is NOT a submissive situation she is setting up.

heck, when i make a woman squirm with delight and have a mind blowing orgasm TRUST ME i DO NOT feel submissive! I feel totally in control! because I'M causing her to feel that way - and if she wants more of it she's got to get it from ME.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

So...are you telling me you don't enjoy that...to the point you would love to do it again? Especially if she swallows you?

Dude...don't confuse the PERCEPTION of weakness with that of lacking control.


She is the one sucking you...she is the one in control. Period.

are you fvking joking?

i have ALREADY ESTABLISHED my position with her BEFORE she...stress SHE blows ME. i have done it without sex.

what you're saying is that if a dude loves a bj and she swallows that she's automatically in control. period? absolutely obsurd. if you believe that, you have a long way to go my friend, a long way.

a chick blowing a man is a submissive gesture on her part. do you know how many chicks LOVE to be submissive and worship a c@ck?

how many Dominant's make their submissives worship his c@ck, and treat her as his personal play toy? all of them. and by your theory submissive is in control of dominant. i think not. how many dominatrix's worship their submissive slave boy's c@ck? none of them. they give it to HER, they please her. but by your theory, slave boy is in control of Mistress. i think not.

look at that scene. as twisted as that scene is, that is the 100% pure, clean, dominant/submissive dynamic, and all of the psychology behind it. there is your answer. not from me, but from that scene itself. you can't argue with it.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

heck, what does it tell you when she pleases you but doesn't ask you to please her? i'll tell you what it tells you - it says 'im in control because YOU need this and I DO NOT. always remember that buddy, i DO NOT need to get laid, and YOU DO."

what does it tell me when she pleases me, without asking me to do the same? it tells me that she wants to please me.

if you think that means she's in control, then you are a weak man. if you think that means that she thinks she's in control, then you had the wrong chick blowing you in the first place, and you clearly did not establish yourself prior.

you don't establish a dominant position with sex or a bj. you establish dominance BEFORE she blows you. you establish it at Starbucks. you obviously are not doing that, since you believe if a chick blows you, she's in control.

bull-f'n-shiat bro's.

 

[joekerr31]

you don't establish a dominant position with sex or a bj. you establish dominance BEFORE she blows you. you obviously are not doing that, since you believe if a chick blows you, she's in control.

she's attempting to gain control. she doesnt have, but she wants it.

if she were 'submissive' and you want to f*ck her, then she would let you f*ck her.

shes in control of what she will GIVE you and when. she'll let you bite the carrot but not eat the whole thing.

i dont know how you cannot see this.

 

[Master Bates]

"I'm on my knees sucking his c0ck and playing with his balls, and soon he's gonna blow his load all over my face. I've got the upper hand now!!!! .....oh sh*t right in the eye, that stings..."

 

[TooColdUlrick]

"I'm on my knees sucking his c0ck and playing with his balls, and soon he's gonna blow his load all over my face. I've got the upper hand now!!!! .....oh sh*t right in the eye, that stings..."

^^^ what he said. lol

yeah, that's not submissive or anything.

i am confident of who's in control before she even comes over to my condo. so is she. it might take a while, it might not. but my pants stay zipped up until that is established, no matter how subtle. this bj issue and "who's in control because of it" isn't an issue. i can't recall it ever crossing my mind when i've gotten a nice bj but no sex on that particular night.

maybe some of you guys are having a problem because you don't know how to accept a hot bj, out of fear of "losing control". that's why this site is dangerous. it makes guys think that chicks are the enemy.

and chick tests you later, as always, and again later. that's what chicks do. and you stay in control. that's what men should do.

 

[lookyoung]

come on guys, none of you have stated the obvious yet.

a woman will give you a bj but NOT sex as a method of p*ssy whipping you before she sleeps with you.

the first stage of the male female dynamic is to establish dominance. who is 51% in control of the relationship and who is 49% in control.

if she gives you a bj but no sex, she's trying to get you hooked. its kind of like a drug dealer giving you a sample. sure its free, but you'll be paying down the road if you want more.

also, a lot of women fear that once they give it up, THAT is when they will find out if you like them or not. because there are guys who once they get laid, lose interest in the woman. or they start treating her badly.

this way she gets to see how you will behave AFTER blowing your load, while not sleeping with you yet.

as for penis size, you don't hav eto give a guy a bj to find that out. its just as easy for her to slip her hands down his pants.

anyway, 99% of the reason women do anything is to gain greater control over the man. to get herself up on a pedastle in his eyes - or at least to make herself the prize.

she probably thought that once she gave you a bj that you'd follow her around like a puppy dog begging for the full course.

Joekker31 I am glad to see that your back. Your posts are usually on the money as is this one.

I think you make a great point when you say a girl does not have to blow you to figure out your penis size, she could do this from a simple handjob. I also agree that a girl tries to get you hooked. (pu$$y whipped) via the bl0wjob. She is trying to see how you react after the bl0wjob. Its almost like a sh1t test. LOL

She also probably has a fairly high interest level in you. A girl will not suck your c0ck if she feels your some AFC idiot loser.

I disagree with you saying that when a girl is blowing a guy he is being submissive. When a girl is on her hand and knees blowing me I am the dominant one. I am holding her hair and she is following my direction. I am telling her what to do. I am cumming when I feel like it. I am the one who is getting more pleasure out of the bl0wjob. And I will bust a load all over her. So how is it that the guys receiving a bl0wjob is being submissive?

When I eat a girls pu$$y this is probably the only time I feel submissive. Think about when your down there eating a girls pu$$y and the 5 minute mark passes. Your tired your thinking in your head I wish this b1tch would Cumm already. This is the only time I feel submissive towards a woman. I want to stop, but at the same time want to make her Cumm.

Now I know a few guys that have wives and GF that totally refuse to blow them yet will fvck them. Is it because the guy is the dominant one. No it is more likely that girl is the dominant one and he is the submissive one in the relationship. If he was the dominant one he would be getting his d1cked sucked whenever they were doing a sexual act.

A girl blowing a guy is a submissive gesture on her part.

 

[Mr.Positive]

Here's my take on this debate, which is a d@mn good one.

I believe the answer is both. Women give BJ's to be submissive, AND gain control at the same time.

The actual BJ is probably the most submissive thing a woman can do, IMO, for obvious reasons.

However, it's no secret in the world of woman that guys like submissive women. This is the same thing women have been doing for all of eternity...using thier feminity latch on to the guy.

A woman gives a BJ to act submissive, to then gain control and be the "prize" of the man. Once she is the "prize", he's hooked, line and sinker. The proof? Ask any married guy how often he get's BJ's.

I bet if you took a hundred random women and put them in a room, then asked them all who in the room gave the greatest BJ's. 90, if not all 100, would probably raise thier hands.

Giving great BJ's is competition for women. I've heard women tell me multiple times that they give the greatest ones. They belief this is just another thing that sets them apart, a notch above, the other women.

Bottom line, it's a good thing for two reasons.

1) She has high interest level in you.
2) She sees you as a dominant alpha type man. (another good thing)

Women don't give BJ's to afc's because they don't need too. The afc gets snagged much easier.

 

[lookyoung]

Here's my take on this debate, which is a d@mn good one.

I believe the answer is both. Women give BJ's to be submissive, AND gain control at the same time.

The actual BJ is probably the most submissive thing a woman can do, IMO, for obvious reasons.

However, it's no secret in the world of woman that guys like submissive women. This is the same thing women have been doing for all of eternity...using thier feminity latch on to the guy.

A woman gives a BJ to act submissive, to then gain control and be the "prize" of the man. Once she is the "prize", he's hooked, line and sinker. The proof? Ask any married guy how often he get's BJ's.

I bet if you took a hundred random women and put them in a room, then asked them all who in the room gave the greatest BJ's. 90, if not all 100, would probably raise thier hands.

Giving great BJ's is competition for women. I've heard women tell me multiple times that they give the greatest ones. They belief this is just another thing that sets them apart, a notch above, the other women.

Bottom line, it's a good thing for two reasons.

1) She has high interest level in you.
2) She sees you as a dominant alpha type man. (another good thing)

Women don't give BJ's to afc's because they don't need too. The afc gets snagged much easier.

Mr positive this is a great observation. I agree 100%. Let me throw a gem at you.

 

[Mr.Positive]

Mr positive this is a great observation. I agree 100%. Let me throw a gem at you.

Thanks Lookyoung! Does this mean I win the debate?!? :cheer:

I think I'll go out right now and get a BJ to celebrate!