moon goddess
Don Juan
Lmao....no.jammer said:ah Mrs. Marmel75, what brings you here
Hello Friend,
If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.
It will be the most efficient use of your time.
And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.
Thank you for visiting and have a great day!
Lmao....no.jammer said:ah Mrs. Marmel75, what brings you here
marmel75 said:UPDATE 2:
Got home Thursday from work and was so tired I didn't go to the gym. She had some more questions for me about what happened, etc. We talked for about an hour and a half or so at length about things.
To be fair, there were other things that were kind of gnawing at me other than her just not having a job. I go to work 11 hours a day, come home and instead of talking with me or doing stuff, she sits and watches her soaps she had recorded during the day that she didn't get a chance to watch. Whatever, I go over on the computer then or to the gym on gym nights. I always initiate sex...I can't recall the last time she initiated sex with me, but it was probably at least a year ago, if not longer.
At one point she said that being a mother was her most important job, and that they take up most of her time. I agreed it was very important, but I also asked how it is fair to me that there never seems to be any time for me. She said "You're right, it isn't fair to you..." and admitted to neglecting me many times. The topic of sex came up and I asked why it is that she never initiates it. We have sex at least 3-4 times a week but I am the one always initiating it. Made it clear to her that it makes me feel as if I am forcing her to have sex with me and she doesn't want to, and that in some ways it made me feel unwanted by her.
I thnk she then realized that all of these things were coming together and building up slowly over time with me and that may have been what pushed me over the edge. I am not a great communicator, I tend to internalize a lot of issues and try and think through them myself and come up with solutions rather than verbalizing them with others.
In no way am I blaming her for what I did. That was my decision and my decision alone, but she definitely did have a role to play in all of this. She then told me that she feels like all we are doing when we have sex is "fvcking" and she wants me to "make love" to her sometimes. She also said she is afraid she doesn't sexually satisfy me becuase I leave her exhausted but am still going strong. She said basically that I fvck too hard and that I last too long in a nutshell...I was kinda stunned by this...well not the last too long part because she has brought that up a lot(ie, "are you almost done yet?" virtually every time we have sex), but the fvck too hard part was a new one on me...she has always seemed to enjoy it, but apparently not always...
We agreed to be more open with each other in terms of communication(this is going to be a hard one for me) and to start having "date nights" a few times a month. Also while she was crying she said:
"Why don't you love me anymore?!?" and cried the most bitterly of anyone I had ever seen crying...that about broke my heart...
"Why don't you want me anymore?"
"I feel like I'm not good enough for you"
"I don't want to lose you...I NEED you..."
Overall it was a pretty productive conversation and I think things are moving along fairly well, although she is still pretty hurt by the whole thing...
I think the worst thing that happened during the whole time was when she found out that day and was crying hysterically, my 5 year old came home from kindergarten and walked into the room with her crying. She ran over to her and said "Mommy! What's wrong? Why are you crying??" and all my wife could do was turn away from her and keep crying, which led my daughter to start crying, hugging her tightly and saying "I don't want to see you crying Mommy, I don't want you to be sad anymore!!"
I about wanted to dig a grave for myself and jump in after witnessing that. That might have been my lowest point as a human being. I don't think I could accurately describe just how bad I felt. Now to repair the damage to the best of my ability.
When I woke up this morning she gave me a hug and kiss and told me what I told her last night had really bothered her and she apologized to me for it. She said she didn't mean to neglect me like that and is going to work on doing a much better job...I think she is now realizing how some of her actions initially led me down the path. Obviously I had to still take action, but if I was never on the path to begin with it wouldn't have ever occurred...
Thanks for the constructive feedback. I am in no way looking for sympathy from anyone. I did this to myself and I will resolve this myself.
Next year, when your child goes to a full day of school in the first grade, that bullsh*t excuse will be out the window...marmel75 said:UPDATE 2:
At one point she said that being a mother was her most important job, and that they take up most of her time. I agreed it was very important, but I also asked how it is fair to me that there never seems to be any time for me.
I think the worst thing that happened during the whole time was when she found out that day and was crying hysterically, my 5 year old came home from kindergarten and walked into the room with her crying.
Yeah we have a daughter turning 2 next month. My 5 year old already goes to kindergarten for a full day.The Gambler said:Next year, when your child goes to a full day of school in the first grade, that bullsh*t excuse will be out the window...
Unless you have an even younger child, of course.
Famous last words. Quoted for the record.marmel75 said:I don't believe she would divorce me
LoL :crackup:LiveFreeX said:If I were you, I'd keep one eye open at night and sleep with a jock strap on.
Way to go.
I am going to disagree with this on a few levels. First off, the issue wasn't about me not getting sex. I basically got sex more or less whenever I wanted it. The issue for me is why do I always have to initiate it?backbreaker said:1. you can't neogate attraction. she's not going to blow you beucase you had a "productive conversation".
2. if i had to lay money, she's mentally checked out but is goiung through the motions beucase she knows that if she left you right now it would make her life harder. she's already taken the big blow, she took it on the chin, she also knows you aren't going to do antyhing else, it makes sense for her to suck it up for 6-8 months or whatever, save her enough money tog et her own place, and then throw down the gauntlent, when you find out she has money for a laywer out of the blue lol, her own place,and n ow you find out that she "never could get over what you did"
3. with that said, i don't blame this on you.. she had a job and didn't do it. we have a 4 year old son my wife and i and we have more than enough sex.. our son is not a deterrent to our sex life in the least bit. sometimes **** it makes it fun let's see if we can get off without getting him suspicious while he's watching TV in the living room
bottom line.. i think she has lost attraction to you but because you cheated on her, it is going to give her the moral high ground.
at the end of the day, all roads are gonna leave to you guys splitting. it might not be tomorrow but this is not gonna work IMHO.
on the real man, I don't envy you at all i really don't. i can' tell you what to do. I can tell you to leave but i am crazy about my wife and that would be testing my metal if i ever had to do something or make a decision like that. If laid out exactly like that, it woudl be the hardest thing i hever done in my life but i'd have to leave her, beucase i know it will never be what it was before it blew up there is no going back, no matter how bad i would want it to. but that's just me and us.
I'll never be the "I hope I can get lucky guy" because if it came down to that I can always just go out to a club, wear a tight thermal shirt with my chest, arms and traps busting out through it, and let myself get hit on by girls 10-15 years younger than me, who refuse to believe me if I tell them my actual age.backbreaker said:that's just the way i see it. sorry if i am blunt no trying to hurt your feelings or anything but you are on the fast track to being the "i hope i can get lucky tonight" guy. no one ever sets out to be the hope i get lucky tonight guy, but you are on the right train track as of now.
Yeah, the whiff of AFC is strong in this thread. While cheating on your wife is not a commendable act, it does not make you the devil's incarnate like some of the virginal men on this forum would have you believe.Social_Leper said:Wow. All the white knights are coming out the woodwork today.