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Everyone's different, but on my scale, shes a 6 without makeup, a 7 with. I think part of my dissonance is that i see her without makeup a lot now that we've been together for a year now. So its a big shock comparing her real image to the dolled up 8s i see at the clubs. And u guys make a great...

thanks for the input guys. its reassuring to know you experts have been there and know what i'm thinking about. this place has fundamentally changed the way i view myself and interact with women, and its people like you that have made this forum so helpful through the years. :rockon: i am...

hey guys, its been a while since I've posted but its because I've been putting all the good stuff i learned here to practice. i'm currently w a girl that absolutely adores me. i control the frame, she's considerate, generous, and to be honest, she pretty much has what i'm looking for in a LTR...

gambino, thanks for explaining that. i guess it's just part of the game to take a gamble on a flakey girl when she initiates contact. that i can accept. you never win at the game after all, we only play it to enjoy it a la Pook. anyway, she actually responded to me just a few hours ago and i...

Gambino, you have any advice on how to read these situations better? when she texted me today about meeting up, i knew it was either she was seeking validation that I was interested or she was actually apologetic from the night before. when she didn't respond after i said yes, that gave me the...

thanks for the input guys. it's the first time this actually has happened to me. usually i completely lose interest and ignore a girl, or a girl makes obvious where I move on. this one seemed like an expert on playing hot and cold, but since i only wanted to have sex with her, i was really...

this girl I had slept with a month ago hit me up last night to meet up for drinks. I had previously gone no contact after seeing her going home w some other dude 3 weeks ago. it was never anything serious w me and her, a fwb at the most. anyway, when she hit me up, I was just planning to try...

harry, thanks for that. you just made the light bulb go off in my head. this is really about abundance mentality. i just realized the way i was thinking was still "beta" in a way. i mean everyone values sex, but i guess i was getting hung up on getting a specific lay. i guess it was weird to me...

Harry, i totally understand that mindset. and that's the one I have, and one that everyone should have. the thing i was asking about is when a girl wants to have sex on the first date and you make her wait, there are pros and cons to it. one hand, you could be driving her desire for you...

that's a good point, although I think it's tough for me to figure if they are just horny. being a male w an ego, I would assume that the girls are after me haha. IBreatheSpears, you make a good point about ego mismatch. makes sense if a hot but low self esteem girl gets put off by a guy doing...

I wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on making the girl wait for sex. For instance, i would take a girl out on a first date and when i drop her off at her place, i politely decline coming in if she offers. Idea is it definitely shows high value and that she ain't the only girl in the world...

Zekko, I've appreciated your advice before and u do make a good point. But honestly, the vibe I got when she offered wasn't the type you expect when the girl wants to see you. I really felt like it was an excuse and if i had agreed, she woulda pulled something last minute again. Then i woulda...

speed dawg, thanks for the breakdown. I can see why you thought we were texting a lot more. all the planning stuff I mentioned was not through text, but during pillow talk mostly that 2nd night. the text part was her saving she wanted to see me after the first night. I mentioned it bc I though...

and scaramouche, i appreciate what you're saying, i do, but why wouldn't she want to talk or stay in touch? again this is my first experience w a divorced girl, but i still believe that a girl who is interested "will move mountains to see you" as others have said here. For her to be this cold...

i'm all for learning, so please tell me how I gave off the "she became my life after one round of sex" vibe? this is the order of events: i went clubbing w her on a thurs. had her in bed w her wanting to f*ck me. we made out and grinded on each other hard. since i broke my condom, i told her...

so here's another strange thing. I was hanging out with some friends last night and one of my female friends there started teasing me about the divorced girl "so you and ____ huh?". apparently she had met up with the divorced girl for drinks earlier in the week where the divorced girl told her...

appreciate the input as always fellas. i was just curious because she is divorced and i was more willing to give the benefit of the doubt. and it's not like i want to make this girl my wife. i just wanted my turn to bone her. but like scormus said, i was thinking i would get a few more bangs...

Hey guys, so i had my first hookup w someone in my extended social circle who was recently divorced. She was dtf on the first night after we went clubbing, but i broke my condom and didnt have a spare. after that night tho, she seemed really interested, txted me how she can't wait to see me...

haha, i'm just wondering if the fz is permanent even if you're the one that does it to her. I know she sees me as a friend now, but I also know she wanted more when we first met. is this a dead end bc I wasn't interested at the time, or are there ways to rekindle her interest in me?

exactly what the title says. I met a girl in late january that now i regret not hooking up with. i was going through some personal stuff at the time and picking up girls wasn't even on my mind. we got drunk at a club together and i should have made out with her, but i was so preoccupied with my...