"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You're being lied to

maphive

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You're being lied to; you're being decevied. The actions that you have taken since your discovery of some smarmy site that tells you the steps to take to have your way with women are simply the proxy: The liar is you. The one thing that everyone has learned here is to not be yourself: Chage, improve, do whatever you fucking want to; you can incite riots or spend a tranquil hour underneath a tree. You have come under the assumption that you can't be yourself to achieve these goals.

But you're forgetting something.
This isn't you.

You lie to yourself to create an image of who you are. You go under these pathetic beliefs that you are becoming something. The truth is... you aren't. You're no different than you were back in your trite 'AFC' days when the world of women seemed impossible to you. You've discarded one crutch to have another.

Step back and look at yourself.
Rationalize every damn thing you've done.

Do you see yourself going to these forums saying stuff like, "Guyzzz. This girl sed she had a bf. what do i do?" Or, sans hyperbole, do you see yourself having to turn to these forums for guidance at all?

If you do then you're failing.

You will gain nothing by using these forums or whatever documents you seeks as guidance. You will only gain by using them as knowledge. You will learn nothing by knowing how to respond in your one infinitesimally pointless case where another individual responds in x or y manner. You will only learn by grasping the knowledge here as a whole. Getting the response to your long charade with girl x that remedies the situation does not teach you one god damn thing. Why? Because you aren't applying anything you've learned. You've become a fucking sycophant whom leeches off of what is posted here.

In this sense, you aren't yourself.

You are these forums. This festering pit of knowledge that can tell you how to get out of a certain situation. Or the pearlescent library that becomes an indispensible source of knowledge. You can let these forums get you out of your one simple bind or you can let them be the archives of knowledge.

Myriad jewels have come from here. But they're being hidden by the shit and piss of the deluge of worthless members now.

So, which one are you?
The guy who goes out and fucks up with a chick, walks away with a smile, and posts about misinterpreting buying temperature. Or, are you the guy who comes here and asks twenty questions about how to respond when a girl says hello to you?

One of those two people is themself.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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So we should not use your post as guidance then.
 

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Youre such a genious:rolleyes:
 

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In general, you're correct about using this information as knowledge and not guidance. It's mostly semantics, but I agree in general. And I don't really think this is breaking news- this has been covered many times. But yes, a lot of people here don't seem to understand it.

However, some people need to have some type of specific examples to get started. A totally clueless or socially inept individual can really be helped by going over 'lines' in his head for what to say and how to respond to certain things a girl might say. I think everyone will agree that for the best chance of success, memorizing scripts is not the way to go...but the whole point of telling a noobie some lines to say is NOT to neccesarily get him the woman he's quoting lines to NOR is it to mold him into a line-quoting, circumstance-memorization robot...but rather to get him used to the idea of talking to girls, and getting comfortable. The only effective way to be able to handle the plethora of possible situations that can confront you when working your game is to have experience. And the initial advice we give here is to gain experience. From then on it's all about gaining experience and holding to a few basic fundamentals.

And by the way, I almost never see this kind of 'say 'x' if she says 'y' -type advice given. Usually only in extreme situations. And still not often. What kind of stuff have you been reading?

-E-Z
 

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I recognize your writting style.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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maphive

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Originally posted by JSH
So we should not use your post as guidance then.
Yeah, it's neat like that isn't it.

Originally posted by LikRetsam
I recognize your writting style.
Yeah, it's a shame when proper grammar seems to become a style.

Originally posted by Dimebag_Darrell
you should change your name to morphine.
Who the hell is that?
 

JSH

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I get what your on about, but as E-Z says its gonna help those who cant complete proper social interaction.
 

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why are you posting here then?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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