Your Woman must be equal or greater to your attractiveness.

[Hitman10000]

It's very important to date women who are equal or greater in attractive qualities, not only do people socially group you and the girl together but they gauge how attractive you are to what kind of women you can attain. Not only that but it'll make you more happier as a person that you are with someone who are on equal terms of attractiveness because obviously being with someone who is less attractive makes you feel less passionate about her. I'm not saying that you should date someone average, but someone equal. If you are a 5 in appearance yet you're going out with a girl that's 3 in apperance then you're shorting yourself because you're with someone you feel "less than average" to. You don't want to be with someone just because that's the best you can do, because zero passion = crappy sex, And who wants that?

I'm posting this up cause recently a friend of mines who was dating an unattractive girl (or at least to his level) wasn't listening to my advice that he was wasting his time. He told things like "Oh it'll grow" or "Yeah, there are some fine ass ladies in my work building." which are clear indications he does not feel 95% with his current girl. My friend got dumped recently and he's bewildered at what happened. Girls are not stupid, they feel uncomfortable being with someone that doesn't have much passion for them. They'd dump/cheat/ignore you. In the DJ Bible, Pook said that "You buy into a relationship, NOT build one" His analogy to purchasing cars make a lot of sense. It only takes 1 meeting to know if a girl is sexually compatible with you, and she MUST be in order for it to be successful for LTR. It takes 1-2 more meetings to know if the both of your personalities mesh together. Too many guys just keep going and going thinking it'll get better but it won't. Be with someone you feel passionate for and perhaps complements your personality, it saves you a lot of time/energy.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

You are preaching to the choir.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

I certainly agree with what you are saying, but i think that it is much broader then just looks, its the whole package, if she is a 7 on looks alone but is very popular and out going, then it will reflect greatly on you.

 

[AngelusPUA]

I can't get it up for anything under HB7 and that’s a high 7 bordering on 8.

 

[Le Parisien]

I can't say I really agree with what you are saying, but I understand it completely. And personally, I would probably also act the way you just described: no women/girls way below my league.

However, things are not set in stones, there are exceptions, and in this regard, they are many.

Personally, in the looks/beauty department, regarding relationships, I put girls in three categories.

1) Too ugly, won't date even if she's a great person. Won't mind having as a friend, but definitely won't date.

2) Somewhat ok, might be with her if she's a great person and makes it up in other areas (like I connect really well with her and such or if she's caucasian but speaks very good mandarin Chinese etc...) and have no better prospect. But I would be constantly feeling frustrated and tempted by other beautiful girls, like "damn, why isn't my girlfriend hot like that "

3) Totally satisfied with her. Sure they are girls who are way hotter, but we are talking about relationships here, good enough is good enough in the looks department. I won't be easily tempted by another hottie simply because healthy relationships go way beyond just beauty/looks.

And here's where I tend to agree with your statement. Since I've indirectly witnessed people's realtionships in the 2) case I just described eventually all fail miserably.
But again, I believe that a guy who's 9 can have a healthy relationship with a girl who's a 7 or 8. However a guy who's 8 and a girl who's 5, it simply won't work.

I'd like to point out every I just typed is only for relationships. For flings and ONS, of course the hotter the better.

 

[ADifferentKindofDJ]

Given that HB and HDJ are include every aspect of someone including looks, personality, ect... and the scale 1-10 are equal for both sides.

Let me see if I understand this:

If you are say a HDJ 7 and you get a HB 8, you'll be attracted to her. But if you are a HDJ7 and she's a HB6, you'll get bored with her.

Perhaps it works in reverse too:

She's a HB7 and you're a HDJ8, so she's attracted (But you're not?). Now you're a HDJ6 and she's still a HB7. In this case she's not attracted to you.

For those of us on this forum, I hope this theory is wrong. Attraction is way to complex to boil it down into this simple theory.

 

[Luveno]

I do not believe that one should date their looks level or above.

I thoroughly believe that men should aim to attain the most physically attractive type of woman, regardless of the looks of the man.

Think about it: will a guy who's a 3 be happy with dating a 3 or even a lo and behold 4? No. He will think he's ugly and relegate himself to the belief that he should be lucky he's getting any in the first place.

Us men are lucky that looks are not the prime determinant of our attractiveness. Ever hear of Montreal syndrome?

So my advice to guys is to improve your life such that you are congruent and can attain the most attractive girl in the room, regardless of your physical attractiveness.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So are you saying that instead of you yourself having qualities that attract people, date someone else that does?

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

So are you saying that instead of you yourself having qualities that attract people, date someone else that does?

I doubt that is what he is saying..... He is most likey saying that no matter how fat, dumpy, and lumpy you are you should attempt to date attractive women.

Beauty w/out personality is dangerous...

I pity beautiful women with bad personalities that get caught in my web...:trouble:

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I doubt that is what he is saying..... He is most likey saying that no matter how fat, dumpy, and lumpy you are you should attempt to date attractive women.

Beauty w/out personality is dangerous...

I pity beautiful women with bad personalities that get caught in my web...:trouble:

Nah, I don't think so:

...not only do people socially group you and the girl together but they gauge how attractive you are to what kind of women you can attain.

 

[PowertripII]

Honestly, I'm gonna have to say that I'm pretty high up on the looks scale.. dating the women who are my 'equals' only leads to more problems (typically they're pretty shallow) but dating the ones who are a notch down and have great personalities suits me just fine.

Looks aren't everything but you should be close- more than two 'points' apart and it'll get awkward.