"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Your thoughts on that situation.

blind_one

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I'll try to keep it as TLDRish as possible for you.

1. Me at a female friends birthday party. [ We know each other from uni, she gives me great social proof before I'm even there " hes such a hard worker bla blaa]

2. The "party" is meh I speak to everyone think nothing of it. I'm starting to get vibe'd by her roommate. We whip-out the vodka and the party gets better.

3. We go to a dance club, drinking on the way, by that time shes all into me.

4. People start leving the club. Its 4 of us there Hostess, her friend, me and her roommate. Me and that chick leave, spout bs along the way and I smash her twice at their place. [ She almost forces her number onto me, heh ]

5. Standard phone call by her , " We were drunk and stuff plz dont spread rumors type thing "

Since then we met two times once for pool and drinks the other time for some "jumping" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5D_Vr99ero and than a meal.

Logistics we're good both times. When I steer the convo toward that sexuzz we had she puts on a sly grin and tries changing the subject.

Now is she trying to BF me up, so far she was very receptive and enthusiastic about our outings but she seems reserved, almost as If I was stressing her up with my presence. ie. she worries that she might offend me in some way.

I'll take a step back for now, see if she reaches out in anyway.

What's positive ?

She's a dedicated violinist, goes to music school AND does her masters where my former classmates are.
I'm all for persistence but I'm puzzled here.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Non-Hors take things slow. Dont push for "sex" too much, or else you'll come off as needy or maybe seem like your trying to use her. Women secretly like a Man that can withhold from sex ;)
 

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Ignore her and let her chase you a bit. Be cold and distant.

If you go out with her again and she's still witholding sex, despite other impressions she gave, then give her the LJBF speech. As with any good negotiation you have to be willing to walk away, or at least make the other party feel you are being authentic. She'll either be jumping your bones in no time in fear of losing you or calling your bluff then texting you a week later so she can find a way of ending the relationship in her own terms after one last sex session.
 

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blind_one said:
" We were drunk and stuff plz dont spread rumors type thing "
What was your response to this?

blind_one said:
Since then we met two times once for pool and drinks the other time for some "jumping" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5D_Vr99ero and than a meal.
Did you escalate, kino, kiss close, anything?

blind_one said:
When I steer the convo toward that sexuzz we had she puts on a sly grin and tries changing the subject.
Why are you talking about seks? it's not something you talk about you're not seeking her verbal approval to fcuk her, just kino and get her aroused. Stop talking about past seks sessions.

blind_one said:
I'll take a step back for now, see if she reaches out in anyway.
Calm your nerves, you already fcuked her.

Be the cool guy she always wants to hear from and hang with. Don't be pushy or too worked up, it's supposed to be fun and light.

A. Take her out
B. Kino
C. Fcuk her
 

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Make up your mind doug. If you want her as a GF, start dealing with her, but ofc, wait for her to ask for it.

Go out to dates and all + you always get to say "Ok, so Ive heard you violinists are good at playing the flute too" or smth :D

But dont go seriously serious with her, a girl who gets hammered and sleeps with a guy she just met is not wifey material, and no, youre not the first one she did this with. Dont make her trick you with "Ive never went to bed with someone so quickly", "I dont know why I did it", this strokes your ego, but is female BS. She probably did it with a couple of guys since you did it already ;]


Always expect the worst from females, so when something bad happens, you dont dwell on it much.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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stevo said:
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What was your response to this? Something along " Don't you worry we we're really drunk, this will stay just betwen us and you can count on it as I'm not that kind of guy. "



Did you escalate, kino, kiss close, anything?
She turned her cheek once or maybe twice ( each time on a separate meeting)



Why are you talking about seks? it's not something you talk about you're not seeking her verbal approval to fcuk her, just kino and get her aroused. Stop talking about past seks sessions.
Point taken


Calm your nerves, you already fcuked her.

Be the cool guy she always wants to hear from and hang with. Don't be pushy or too worked up, it's supposed to be fun and light.

A. Take her out
B. Kino
C. Fcuk her

Agreed



BrainDamage92 said:
Make up your mind doug. If you want her as a GF, start dealing with her, but ofc, wait for her to ask for it.

ATM going for another steady plate, withdrawing attention a pinch by pinch. I don't really know her all that good but I get the idea. I'm not ready to be tied down.

But dont go seriously serious with her, a girl who gets hammered and sleeps with a guy she just met is not wifey material, and no, youre not the first one she did this with. Ofc Dont make her trick you with "Ive never went to bed with someone so quickly", "I dont know why I did it", this strokes your ego, but is female BS. She probably did it with a couple of guys since you did it already ;] Sure


Always expect the worst from females, so when something bad happens, you dont dwell on it much.
Sure thing, recently I have been hitting the gym regularly and getting IOIs from random broads at rock venues often so all is well, going in the right direction.
Thank you for your input guys, it's much appreciated !
I'll keep doing my think, mess with the other broad and w8 for that viollinist to contact me. Cheers
 
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