"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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BOOKS88

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Hi guys wondering if I can get some advice here folks.

So I've been out of the game for a while - happily single after a relationship that went bad; sorta been getting with a girl since but I made some cardinal errors and just dont want to screw up next time like I did then. So anyway heres the deal:

I met a girl at this party a few days ago. She was'nt super drunk (I dont drink - just for health reasons and personal choice) - anyway I didnt talk to her much - I arrived super late at the party and people were just sitting around talking. I'm an chiro/osteo physiotherapist; and my mate was complaining about his shoulder - anyway so I started treating him and she was - as girls do - getting all excited about the massage/treatment and was like, "I want to be done to!". I was all professional and treated her properly in my friends room - she has a whole history of back problems and stuff so we were chatting etc - but I was being very professional and polite, I was complimenting her as she is actually a very interesting professional case. At the
end of the night I offered her a lift back home and she completely changed when we were in the car. She hadn't seemed very drunk at the time but she suddenly started being really loud and teasing me about my driving, and even flicking me in the ear as we were driving. It was kinda weird and I played along with it, teasing her back but at the time it was a bit strange - especially since she'd been kinda quiet and sensible before. I was doing a bit of ****y/funny - sorta teasing her back "and I thought she was such a nice girl..!" and she said back "well since I'm probably never going to see you again, here is what I really am!" - and she was teasing me about treating my friend, as if it was a gay thing (I was using my elbow and he was squawking in pain) to which i replied, "yeah, you know S&M isn't my kinda thing!"..

anyway I dropped her off and it was a bit awkward - I think she probably felt a bit embarressed and she left, we didnt shake hands or anything - anyway on the way back I was wondering if I'd just completely misread all the signs and actually I should have made a move. Especially since before I treated her one of her friends mentioned that she was newly single; not that we'd talked enough for her to have had interest in me before. But definately after the treatment she noticed things, like my tattoos and stuff and asked about them.

Anyway I added her on facebook as I didnt take her number - no message, just a casual add two days after. I'm just wondering now whether or not I misread things or if I should see if I can take things further.

Hoping you guys can help - sorta new to the game again and hellava nervous; shes white and Polish, I'm Asian and have some hangups but I work out and have had white girls interested in me really recently - I just sorta screwed those up. Im wondering if I misread things, and if not - what can I do know that we're friends on Facebook to catch up? We dont really know anyone in common; I was thinking of sending her a message with a bit of ****y and funny - something like

"Hey it was good to meet you - even with though I had to put up with all the abuse in the car!" (or something better than that - its late)

but I'm stuck on how to kinda get the interest in - I could say something non commital like "Just wanted to check how you felt after the treatment..." but then thats not really saying anything.

Your thoughts would be awesome guys
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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did she accept your facebook request?

I had a date a few weeks ago that I thought went pretty well.

She returned all my messages, then it just dropped off.

I friended her 3 weeks later to test the waters...no response.


You might well have had an opportunity when you dropped her off.
 

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Yes she did. I didnt send it with a message or anything.

I know I should have got her number at the time, to be honest I was just a bit oblivious to the signals - if any - I was getting.
 

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I think you blew it by not making a move after the ride home. She was all over you in the car. You probably won't get another chance.
 

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When I read "well since I won't be seeing you again, this is how I am" the first thought that came to mind was one night stand. I would have tried to eascalate her personally, it sure sounds like that's what she was doing.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

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