"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lexington

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We see the terms "9s" and "10s" being thrown around a lot. I think we all have some idea what those are. Those are the cream of the crop. But where it gets a little confusing is when people talk about 5s and 6s. Some people seem to think 5s are ugly. I personally would rate a plain Jane as a 5: not ugly, not particularly hot.....just completely average. A 5 to me is in the 50th percentile of attractiveness.

A 6 wouldn't make me turn my head and I probably wouldn't even notice a 6 in a crowded public spot but she'd be more attractive than most. A 7 would be noticed if she came near my line of sight. An 8 would get my attention. A 9 would be a girl that pretty much everyone would agree is quite attractive. A 10 has supermodel/actress type looks. These tend to be quite rare.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Chamber36

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I prefer the binary scale.

either I'm physically attracted to the point I want to perform cunnilingus, or I'm not.

Edit: TBH let me tell you what I can tell you. 1-6 I don't care about.
7 is ****able if she has a good personality but then she better fvck off. 8 is attractive to most guys. 9 is in the 90th percentile of attractiveness, she's a head-turner. And a 10 is somebody God took his time making. Someone who's flawless.
 

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To me taste and colors can't really be argued but can only reach a mutual point (some times we might all think that a girl is hot, Our tastes don't really matter anymore)

Like this one time there was a girl who was a total 9 for me, first time i saw her my jaw literally dropped and then my friend came and said "wow this girl should put some weight on, definite 7 for me" i was shocked, she was not that skinny and had a heck of a round bumpy butt, very nice curves with a nice C cup, beautiful eyes, curly hair and a heck of a smile. I thought he was blind but later he showed me what he thought was a 9 and i was not digging that. Tastes and colors

To me 6 to 7s are not datable, we can only have a heck of a night, if she is good in bed than more nights might occur
 

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I can see how it could be confusing. It's not a linear scale where a 10 is twice as hot as a 5. I look at it this way....

5 -- Quite chubby. You'd only hit in a really long dry spell.

6 -- Average and ok if you really bored.

7 -- Cute

8 -- Hot

9 -- Hawt

10 -- Drop dead

Lexington said:
We see the terms "9s" and "10s" being thrown around a lot. I think we all have some idea what those are. Those are the cream of the crop. But where it gets a little confusing is when people talk about 5s and 6s. Some people seem to think 5s are ugly. I personally would rate a plain Jane as a 5: not ugly, not particularly hot.....just completely average. A 5 to me is in the 50th percentile of attractiveness.

A 6 wouldn't make me turn my head and I probably wouldn't even notice a 6 in a crowded public spot but she'd be more attractive than most. A 7 would be noticed if she came near my line of sight. An 8 would get my attention. A 9 would be a girl that pretty much everyone would agree is quite attractive. A 10 has supermodel/actress type looks. These tend to be quite rare.
 

Diaforetikos

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The highest I usually go is an 8. I'll bump up or lower the rating if their personality is cool or not. I've seen 5s and 6s jump to 8s and 9s just from their personality.

Looks don't mean ish if she's a b1tch.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Based on looks and physique only
6.5-7.5: Fairly attractive, but doesn't mean I want to bang every woman in this category
8-9.5: Very attractive and very bangable

1-6's are irrelevant to my mating game and 10's don't exist imo.
 

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5 - Average. Just a plain jane.. Maybe a little chubby.. I really think a 5 can easily be a 6-7 based on the way they dress and present themselves though.
6 - A tiny bit better than average, bangable but really not worth going out of your way to meet or spend time with.
7 - Kinda cute, seems like an interesting girl. Approachable, but prefer to look for hotter girls first.
8 - Hot, but I believe an 8 can easily be a 9 depending on their outlooks and personality.
9 - Hotter, she's intelligent too.. Has a great social life and has a lot going for her.
10 - Beautiful. Intelligent, and great social life, in shape, positive outlook on everything, is very feminine, close to her family, has passions and goals.

The only girls I really feel like spending time with are 8 and above. If a 7 gives me any trouble, it's an instant next. Actually, it's like that for 8's too. 9's and 10's are the only ones I will give second chances to. If they mess up, then it's a next.
 

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I have only 2 ratings when it comes to looks: Acceptable and Unacceptable

Then I move on to the other things, personality, values, history, weirdness, b*tchiness, style, etc..
 

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This is the scale I use:

1-4 are just different shades of ugly. These girls are undoable.
5: I might consider doing a 5 in a moment of weakness, but when it comes right down to it, I won't really do it. She's almost cute, but just doesn't quite cut it.
6: Cute, but not gorgeous. Doable.
7: The average "pretty" girl. Girl next door type, for example.
8: Better than average looking, exceptionally attractive
9: Megahottie. The most attractive looking women.
10: There is no such thing as a 10. It exists only as an ideal of perfection by which other women are measured.

Or, to break it down into binary scale:
6-10: Doable
1-5: Not doable
 
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I use the 0-1 scale.

0 equates to me not being interested and 1 means I am interested.

This HB scale is complete and utter nonsense to me as it contradicts a lot of what is said on this website.

The HB scale puts women on pedestals in my opinion, I was taught by numerous articles on this site not to do that, yet those same men are raving on about how they scored with an HB9 and she was great etc.

Just my 2cents.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Long time Lurker, time to peek out!

When I was younger I used to have a cool system with the boys:

T - For Tits
B - For Body
and then up to 3x+ or 3x-

To describe a girl, mainly via texting/writing.

You could give her a small t, capital T or and T with ! Same goes for Body.

The interesting thing was + or - which could relate to anything from face, amount of makeup, eyes, seduction, personality and sluttyness. You could quickly convey a decent (not really) picture of a girl to your friends!

Example.:
A blonde with nice tits and a decent ass, but a terrible drunk, cute face and maybe slept with two guys you know would go something like this:

TB--

TB for decent tits and ass, - for blonde (personal preferance), - terrible drunk, ++ for cute face and -- for having slept with two guys you know.

A decent lay, but not someone you would want to hang on too!

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These days I mostly go with:

1 - Dont go there (although I have on occasion...)
2 - Desperate Measures
3 - If Im horny and dont need to work for it
4 - If I dont need to work for it.
5 - Average (in most departments)
6 - A potential ay
7 - A potential date
8 - FB
9 - Girlfriend Material
10 - Wife Material
11 - Soulmate (haha, get real)

Of course, these all include several factors besides looks and style, such as personality, does anal etc.. Still havent found that 10, but hey keep fishing!
 

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Perserverence, I don't believe the HB scale puts women on pedestals, although I understand why you're saying that.

Some women are better looking than others, that's just reality, and that's what the scale reflects. It makes no sense to deny it.
 

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I don't have a 1-10 scale. Just either AVERAGE, CUTE, or HOT.
 

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Based on looks only
Less than a 5 - No thank you, I prefer to avoid
5/6 - Decent, I'd do them but I wouldn't bust a nut trying to get them or anything
7 - Attractive, probably one great asset eg Tits ;)
8 - Hot
9 - Quite simply a pleasure to look at
10 - I try not to give them out, I don't like convincing myself that a girl is perfect, although theres a couple that have come close thanks to their personality.
 
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zekko said:
Perserverence, I don't believe the HB scale puts women on pedestals, although I understand why you're saying that.

Some women are better looking than others, that's just reality, and that's what the scale reflects. It makes no sense to deny it.
Not denying that, what I find amusing is that there are men out there who one hand say "never put a woman on a pedestal" in one thread only to type "I score with a HB10 the other night, she was fantastic, she had a great this and a great that". That to me sounds awfully like someone placing someone on a pedestal.

When I see a gorgeous woman, I don't suddenly say "Yeah, she's an 8, 9 or 10!". I don't even pass comment to friends or anything, there is no reason for me to do so. I also don't buy into the scale as I think it's nonsense, attraction is subjective. One man's 8 is another man's 5 and his 5 is someone else's 7 etc.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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sozzz said:
I don't have a 1-10 scale. Just either AVERAGE, CUTE, or HOT.
What, no UGLY?

perseverance said:
Not denying that, what I find amusing is that there are men out there who one hand say "never put a woman on a pedestal" in one thread only to type "I score with a HB10 the other night, she was fantastic, she had a great this and a great that". That to me sounds awfully like someone placing someone on a pedestal.

When I see a gorgeous woman, I don't suddenly say "Yeah, she's an 8, 9 or 10!". I don't even pass comment to friends or anything, there is no reason for me to do so. I also don't buy into the scale as I think it's nonsense, attraction is subjective. One man's 8 is another man's 5 and his 5 is someone else's 7 etc.
I can see where you're coming from. And if you look at my scale, there is no such thing as a 10.
But as an INTJ personality, I can't help but want to categorize things.
 

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I am a bit perverted and use 0-10 scale with 0 being no erection can be achieved to 10 instant bonner. It doesn't reflect looks sorely, just something I particularly like physically, as well as personality/attitude. So, I would say it is a scale made up of several different ones. Basically, I just go by how much of tingling is happening in my pants. To report about someone's looks objectively I would just use the conventional scale as above.
 

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zekko said:
What, no UGLY?
Of course there's ugly, if there wasn't why would I have a scale. Obviously fugly ones are not being looked at, that's why I didn't list them down. :)
 

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This is all mental masturbation. MOST guys on this site aren't banging "really hot" girls anyway by society's definition.

Also like someone else said a girl can be really hot but be a b1tch or have a sh1t ass personality in which case she is fugly despite her looks.

I'd personally take a "cute" girl with a kick a$$ personality over some hotter girl that lacks modesty and is a b1tch or crazy or whatever.
 
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