Big Eee Zee
Master Don Juan
thats what i was saying. it just got twisted and misinterpreted.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Your opinion of sexual morals?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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I musta blown past the "3dates" mantra. Now it becomes a matter of, what you're looking for. I never had a 3 dates mantra, still don't. When it felt comfortable, I did it.
HOWEVER, I'd state that I believe 90% of girls are off tilt emotionally, they, in fact, cannot handle the emotions around open sex. Yes, they say they can...but have we not learned READ what they DO, not what they SAY??
Sex is wonderful, but guess what, 99.99% of the time, Pvssy all feels the same. Might look different, BUT, in the heat of the moment, there's a minute difference between them. WHAT is different is the person connected to it, the one you look in the face.
Hey, I know most guys come here to get LAID and hearing such things is blasphemous to PUA communities, But in these cases you don't get what you WANT, you get what you NEED. And it's a wake up call.
3 Dates to me is fast, now. Before I'd done it a couple of times and I could have waited. Why? Because frankly, I'd rather have had my autonomy than a few good nights of sex when i was high school/college guy. That's why. Post-college, it's a better world, in most cases. My first girlfriend boinked me on our 1st date in my car, right after the movie 'Titanic'. And I had a few ONS mixed in. Looking back, it gave me the knowledge of what I want and don't want and now I just take or leave sex. Might be crazy, might regret it. NAH, I don't have regrets.
It don't have to be some Oprah-atic fantastic sexpitcal...but realize...
-more girls have diseases than ever, and normally don't use condoms.
-by and large, WOMEN do not count the head they gave as "sex" (ask most girls, they don't).
-more girls go without condoms than ever.
-they easily miss pills or the pill doesn't work because of antiobotics, her natural chemistry, or emotional stress.
-some girls DO in fact sabotage sex to get prego and quit college, working, and or get out of their house.
-unless she's you're GF, she's d!cking a new dude every night, new stds everyday.
-most girls that frequent bars/clubs has had a min. of 1 ons. you don't have to be in the clubs/bars to get girls, but if girls in clubs/bars DO NOT get involved in One Night Stands, then why do most PUA's go there to do a Field Report and try for a 1 night lay??
{I knew a girl who couldn't get prego UNLESS she was on it. She had some case called Androgyny, where her test was too high. Looked hot as hell, but if she took the pill her body dispersed eggs, if not, she barely if ever got it. Try that out}
I'm suggesting to be more aware. If sex anywhere, anytime, anywho is your thing, what I say, don't read, doesn't matter. I can preach on about Higher this, and Higher that. And maybe that isn't your "gig" or your belief." Maybe after a long day of work, you just want good pvssy. BUT...even the blokes that want good pvssy should be aware of the diseases out there, the risks, the headaches, the pscyhos, and the emotions.
The more random, protected or unprotected sex you have with girls you don't know, the greater your odds of fathering a kid you don't really want and being stuck with a woman, child, or both, you hadn't planned on. People can say what they want, but I'd say 50% of the people from various walks of life have had kids accidently, had an abortion, or a scare that resulted in a miscarriage. THESE are the stats nobody talks about.
Everybody's been so accustomed to seeing sex on TV that much of what I say or believe could be heresy. However, frankly, I like my autonomy. I do. At 30, 40, or 50, if I'm not married to 1 hawt broad, I'd like the ability to travel with my millions around the world and sample life's pleasures. And even exotic, foreign women. Getting pvssy today is accepting a lower standard of life for immediate gratification. Kids are being sexualized WAY to young, and alot of this is lack of parenting, Television/Media, and schooling, since schools are ALLOWING the introduction of various sexual topics (schools in Massachusetts have begun teaching homosexuality at rallies to 5th graders).
I for one don't believe that a marriage or long-term relationship can stand to last if sex is just a commodity. if you know that it can be had elsewhere, for the guy, eventually, he'll just say fvck the relationship, his water awaits him somewhere else. He can be satisified...and that's an ok thing and a bad thing.
But, those are my beliefs, nobody else's. I've done a ONS, I've done a quicker hookup, and I've waited a year. It's definately better to wait. Those that believe women are nothing but hoes and bytches, only meet hoes and bytches. Their sh!tty attitude will never attract to them anything but that type, because the world/universe will seek to give you what you most focus on. And honestly, why would a decent girl pay a lick of time to someone who's got a crap attitude? Works the same way with friends...I wouldn't hang around a d!ck if he had loads of money and season Pat's tickets.
A-Unit
I musta blown past the "3dates" mantra. Now it becomes a matter of, what you're looking for. I never had a 3 dates mantra, still don't. When it felt comfortable, I did it.
HOWEVER, I'd state that I believe 90% of girls are off tilt emotionally, they, in fact, cannot handle the emotions around open sex. Yes, they say they can...but have we not learned READ what they DO, not what they SAY??
Sex is wonderful, but guess what, 99.99% of the time, Pvssy all feels the same. Might look different, BUT, in the heat of the moment, there's a minute difference between them. WHAT is different is the person connected to it, the one you look in the face.
Hey, I know most guys come here to get LAID and hearing such things is blasphemous to PUA communities, But in these cases you don't get what you WANT, you get what you NEED. And it's a wake up call.
3 Dates to me is fast, now. Before I'd done it a couple of times and I could have waited. Why? Because frankly, I'd rather have had my autonomy than a few good nights of sex when i was high school/college guy. That's why. Post-college, it's a better world, in most cases. My first girlfriend boinked me on our 1st date in my car, right after the movie 'Titanic'. And I had a few ONS mixed in. Looking back, it gave me the knowledge of what I want and don't want and now I just take or leave sex. Might be crazy, might regret it. NAH, I don't have regrets.
It don't have to be some Oprah-atic fantastic sexpitcal...but realize...
-more girls have diseases than ever, and normally don't use condoms.
-by and large, WOMEN do not count the head they gave as "sex" (ask most girls, they don't).
-more girls go without condoms than ever.
-they easily miss pills or the pill doesn't work because of antiobotics, her natural chemistry, or emotional stress.
-some girls DO in fact sabotage sex to get prego and quit college, working, and or get out of their house.
-unless she's you're GF, she's d!cking a new dude every night, new stds everyday.
-most girls that frequent bars/clubs has had a min. of 1 ons. you don't have to be in the clubs/bars to get girls, but if girls in clubs/bars DO NOT get involved in One Night Stands, then why do most PUA's go there to do a Field Report and try for a 1 night lay??
{I knew a girl who couldn't get prego UNLESS she was on it. She had some case called Androgyny, where her test was too high. Looked hot as hell, but if she took the pill her body dispersed eggs, if not, she barely if ever got it. Try that out}
I'm suggesting to be more aware. If sex anywhere, anytime, anywho is your thing, what I say, don't read, doesn't matter. I can preach on about Higher this, and Higher that. And maybe that isn't your "gig" or your belief." Maybe after a long day of work, you just want good pvssy. BUT...even the blokes that want good pvssy should be aware of the diseases out there, the risks, the headaches, the pscyhos, and the emotions.
The more random, protected or unprotected sex you have with girls you don't know, the greater your odds of fathering a kid you don't really want and being stuck with a woman, child, or both, you hadn't planned on. People can say what they want, but I'd say 50% of the people from various walks of life have had kids accidently, had an abortion, or a scare that resulted in a miscarriage. THESE are the stats nobody talks about.
Everybody's been so accustomed to seeing sex on TV that much of what I say or believe could be heresy. However, frankly, I like my autonomy. I do. At 30, 40, or 50, if I'm not married to 1 hawt broad, I'd like the ability to travel with my millions around the world and sample life's pleasures. And even exotic, foreign women. Getting pvssy today is accepting a lower standard of life for immediate gratification. Kids are being sexualized WAY to young, and alot of this is lack of parenting, Television/Media, and schooling, since schools are ALLOWING the introduction of various sexual topics (schools in Massachusetts have begun teaching homosexuality at rallies to 5th graders).
I for one don't believe that a marriage or long-term relationship can stand to last if sex is just a commodity. if you know that it can be had elsewhere, for the guy, eventually, he'll just say fvck the relationship, his water awaits him somewhere else. He can be satisified...and that's an ok thing and a bad thing.
But, those are my beliefs, nobody else's. I've done a ONS, I've done a quicker hookup, and I've waited a year. It's definately better to wait. Those that believe women are nothing but hoes and bytches, only meet hoes and bytches. Their sh!tty attitude will never attract to them anything but that type, because the world/universe will seek to give you what you most focus on. And honestly, why would a decent girl pay a lick of time to someone who's got a crap attitude? Works the same way with friends...I wouldn't hang around a d!ck if he had loads of money and season Pat's tickets.
A-Unit
I agree with you A-unit. 3 dates to me is too fast as well. I don't mind waiting to the 6th or 7th date if I know the girl is a quality type of girl. When I say QUALITY TYPE OF GIRL, I am talking about a girl who has not slept with many guys. A girl that is feminine and not a sexual wh0re who acts like a guy and sleeps around all the time. A girl that challanges me to pursue her and break her barriers. Not some girl who spreads her legs after a third date and tells you that she loves you after it is all said and done. The prototype "Sex and the City" girl is the kind of girl I don't want to be with.
By the 6th date you know her alot better then you would know her by the 3rd date. You notice more informations about her like her morals and attitudes.
Part of being a DJ is knowing that you are a quality guy. You are above majority of men out there. You treat yourself and your body with respect (high self esteem, confidence, eating the right food, excersizing, staying away from drugs, using condoms when having sex etc...) so why lower your own standerds in being with someone who doesn't?
Being a quality guy (a DJ) it will only be natural that you will attract a quality type of a girl. If you know that your game is weak then the obvious result is that the girl you have attracted is probably not going to be your dream girl as well and problems will follow.
It seems that the more a guy has his sh1t together not only he attracts more women but also the quality of women increases as well. Its a natural progression because there aren't many quality types of women out there and therefore the quantity of women will shrink as you get better at the game through the process of elimination. Getting pvssy wouldn't matter as much as getting yourself an LTR with a quality girl.
If you got yourself an HB8 who is feminine, nurturing, a good human being with no ulterior motives or loose screws in her head, why would you want to leave that and randomly go fvck alot of pvssy where you don't care where she has been as long as she looks hot and makes you horny. That is a step down, doesn't make a whole lot sense to me.
DjDamage
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Cynical? I like to call it realistic, like my sig "Nowhere near the grey area"
And believe it or not I've never had my heartbroken, sure I had chicks dump me when I was AFC but that wasnt really a great drama for me, nowadays its not even possible for me to be "heartbroken", thats a concept for chicks/fags and children as far as I'm concerned, I do get jilted just like anyone else ,assess the situation and find my fvckups but thats as far as that goes.Anyway nevertheless I'll say it again , this entire thread is a bunch of wank bullsh!t, and only 1 zombies idea of morals, the whole thing is moot.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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Try not to post crap that looks like it was stolen off Oprah (a trend in most of your posts I've noticed) and you got a deal.
You posted a question and I answered it, In a nutshell while your waiting for sex because you think its "morally" right and see it as special and sacred I see social robots like you as a joke.
btw do yourself a favour, go here and see what chicks really think of your morals, thats right mate its only YOU who really shares the lie . http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83349
seanchai
Master Don Juan
I don't have a problem with guys who want to wait longer than the first couple dates to sleep with a woman. I respect that they respect themselves so much. But there seems to be some implication (at least from their point of view) that what they're doing is right, and guys who choose to move as fast as they can are somehow dirty or immoral. I would think that guys on an internet forum focused on how to get women would be above that.
Part of my journey in this world has been to reject what I thought I knew about it. That includes the belief that there is a good girl and slut dichotomy, because that good girl you have innocent chats with at work could get skanked up four nights a week and sleep with 50 guys in a year. It includes the belief that sex is something worth saving for the right person at the right time, because for me the right person is anyone whose company I enjoy, and the right time is now. That's the reality I live in now.
Part of my journey in this world has been to reject what I thought I knew about it. That includes the belief that there is a good girl and slut dichotomy, because that good girl you have innocent chats with at work could get skanked up four nights a week and sleep with 50 guys in a year. It includes the belief that sex is something worth saving for the right person at the right time, because for me the right person is anyone whose company I enjoy, and the right time is now. That's the reality I live in now.
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DJ's:
I will never have sex outside of a commited relationship. I'm even thinking about making all future partners have a blood test. I'm worried to death about the sexual experience I had today. I never want to feel this way again. To make it even worse the BJ I received wasn't even that good. Sex isn't worth all this anxiety. I would rather masturbate than have sex with some random girl.
I will never have sex outside of a commited relationship. I'm even thinking about making all future partners have a blood test. I'm worried to death about the sexual experience I had today. I never want to feel this way again. To make it even worse the BJ I received wasn't even that good. Sex isn't worth all this anxiety. I would rather masturbate than have sex with some random girl.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
what a righteous dude!
i really enjoy reading threads from a poster who isnt corrupted by todays society, one that still has values and morals.
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Why doesnt this statement surprise me, arent you that dude who only has chick friends?
Dont believe all your girl friends mate, sex isnt that bad and it really shouldnt be such a big deal to cause you anxiety.
See the problem all you "commitment" jokers? See what turning it into a big song and dance has made it ? First hand proof right here.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88403
That thread might give you the needed background information to understand why I typed what I typed. My anxiety isn't over the song and dance of sex. I have anxiety over worrying about STD's and such.
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I still dont get all the drama, I've had a few close calls and funny looking rashes on my knob myself, but worrying yourself into a frenzy is time wasted. Its just sex dude, wear a condom if your that worried and forget about it.
But saying you would rather wank than fvck?
But saying you would rather wank than fvck?
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I honestly would rather wank than **** some random dirty girl. I have pretty high standards-- I'm a lil stuck up.
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Seanchai, that was actually a good post. Nice job.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You'd better put me on iggy so you don't read any of my posts...
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
why ? theres nothing wrong with your posts , and theres nothing wrong with his posts either. it sounded really nice to hear.Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
You'd better put me on iggy so you don't read any of my posts...
just because i dont do things the same way doesnt mean they arent nice to see that other people do them, right?
i think standing your ground on something you believe in is good.