"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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exile663dfx

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This is for the experienced.

So I met this HB8.5 (.5 for being really smart) at a restaurant she was/is a waitress. Got her number and initiated texting (texting because I want to). We started talking and got to know eachother really well. She wanted to date really bad but I kept putting it off for "some odd reason", so it seems like I befriended her rather than fvcked her, and i'm ok with that I got several plates to spin, so i'm asking you experienced guys because I have never actually put a girl in my friend zone that I was sexually attracted to before its either I banged her or NEXTed.

Is this normal or should I have added on a plate even thought It doesnt seem like I was into it all. :rolleyes:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Alex DeLarge

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I've friendzone'd a few girls, not cause I'm not sexually attracted to them though. They just have wayyyy too much baggage to date.

One of these girls is an HB9. Really sweet girl that I love to hangout with. But she dated a good friend of mine for about 4 or 5 years (probably still fvcks him).. It seemed like she wanted to hook up for a bit last fall, but I kept just playing oblivious to it all. She's not the type of girl you can just do the FWB thing with either.

Plus the implications of dating her after my friend did would be too much to deal with and not worth throwing away 2 good friendships over. I don't want to put myself in a rebound situation either (if it's not going to be a FWB situation).

Sometimes dating a girl just isn't worth it because of other stuff in your social life that could possibly go haywire. That might sound kind of AFC, but I don't really care. I'm not really concerned with getting my count up with girls I've banged. I'm more concerned with living a fun and prosperous life!
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
I've friendzone'd a few girls, not cause I'm not sexually attracted to them though. They just have wayyyy too much baggage to date.

One of these girls is an HB9. Really sweet girl that I love to hangout with. But she dated a good friend of mine for about 4 or 5 years (probably still fvcks him).. It seemed like she wanted to hook up for a bit last fall, but I kept just playing oblivious to it all. She's not the type of girl you can just do the FWB thing with either.

Plus the implications of dating her after my friend did would be too much to deal with and not worth throwing away 2 good friendships over. I don't want to put myself in a rebound situation either (if it's not going to be a FWB situation).

Sometimes dating a girl just isn't worth it because of other stuff in your social life that could possibly go haywire. That might sound kind of AFC, but I don't really care. I'm not really concerned with getting my count up with girls I've banged. I'm more concerned with living a fun and prosperous life!
I like this Alex, my life is filled with a bunch of unusual, good and bad events. So after I suffered this heart attack my life changed even more for the better,and I feel "sub-consciously" this girl felt like a friend and nothing more to me. Unusual right? Strange case of how just far I/my self has become further than being with this HB8.5. She literally begs for a date now, and i'm sorry, shes just a friend in my eyes.
 
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