"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Desdinova

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Just a question and an opportunity to brag, what is the best part of your game? Now, I don't mean Neg Hits, nor ****y/funny. I want to know is where do you get your best results? Are you good at getting women in bed in a short period of time? Getting numbers under two minutes?

Mine has to be getting the first kiss. It's always guaranteed for me by the end of the first date. I never have to worry about it because it's always automatic.

The latest for getting that first kiss is probably the end of the first date. It's usually earlier, like after the first meeting and number close, before there is an actual date to speak of.

As my game kept improving, the first kiss kept coming sooner. I'd start chatting up some woman, and within 30 minutes, I'd be making out with her. I couldn't count how many nameless women I've made out with. I didn't have to number close, nor set up a date to get that first kiss.

So, what are your best game results?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Jariel

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I suppose my strength is in the initial attraction stage and "getting my foot in the door" so to speak. A lot is probably due to my appearance (looks, height, dress + physique), but in recent months I believe I've started to radiate confidence to go along with it and that's a winning formula.


Desdinova: The first kiss is one of my weakest points and where I lose most opportunities so any narratives or advice on your experiences would be appreciated. Btw do you wait until you're in private before you go for the first kiss or are you happy making out in a bar, street etc?
 

ethnomethodologist

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I'm best at indirect game, as in walking down a hall and having guys calling me over, asking for "whattups" and give me nods, and having girls on the other drooling over me, staring, and saying just barely loud enough for me to hear "Jaaaay".

I am horrible once of I've got both guys and girls together though, I give out way too many chances for guys to AMOG me.
 

Desdinova

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Btw do you wait until you're in private before you go for the first kiss or are you happy making out in a bar, street etc?
Wherever I happen to be :)

One of the things I do is to initiate kino and pull out the c/f ASAP. It breaks down the barriers very quickly. A pat on the head saying "aww, poor baby" or "good girl" opens up for her to become comfortable around me. Breaking down those barriers ASAP will help things progress faster.

Also, I never have to initiate the first kiss. The woman does it all.
 
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