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[The tin man]

All right, new here, yet another LS transplant.

I am getting familiar with everything and am really feeling amongst brothers.

In a nutshell, my problem is that I have game with drama queens but falter around the kind of women I am really attracted too: intelligent, strong headed, passionate females.

My coworker is a great example of the type of woman I want to get to know. She is a ringer for Penelope Cruz - and a physicist to booth.

So far, she has turned down or friendzoned my advances. I keep going with more - subtle, yet definitely sensual - the sexual tension is palpable but as far as I know she hasn't dated anyone in years.

So how do you guys do it? What are the best weapon to get the real prizes out there?

 

[splinterkb]

She can probably see through your "game". Try being genuine.

 

[Interceptor]

There si somethign going on with your Masculinity and your low level of Polarizing those types of women.

Those types of women are used to running masculine energy of their own.

Thus, for them to be Polarized and truly feel Femenine they can only be with an ultra Masculine man.

Read this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137025


and re read this from a Woman:

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I am drawn to alpha males as I would be drawn to high ground in a flood or in the same way I would reach out to hold onto something solid when dizzy.

With a beta male I am always aware of the need to be strong and not only self-sufficient, but the supportive and grounded nurturer on demand. I cannot lean at need ... I can only lean when the beta is having a 'strong' day. As a strong female more like a female alpha wolf in the wild than not,

I truly need to sense genuine and consistent strength before I can even think about leaning. I cannot be submissive in any way with a beta male because absolute trust is missing.

That absolute trust is key and the true alpha male inspires absolute trust as effortlessly as breathing
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Theres something you are sub communicating to her and that make syou unsuitable to her...

And the 'strong headed' career minded woman....

Re read that sentence...

 

[The tin man]

Oh I can show strenght.

I'm thinking I should tap into her feminine side. Any tricks?

 

[Magma]

Oh I can show strenght.

I'm thinking I should tap into her feminine side. Any tricks?

There are no "tricks" as you call them. This is going to sound redundant, but please read the bible. Get your house in order. Work on your inner game.

Here's the thing...

While you are busy improving yourself and becoming a better man, you will have less time to focus on the perceived strain in this interpesonal relationship. The less time you spend on focusing on that strain, the less you will sub-communicate your neediness for this woman. This will translate into more time for you to focus on the things that make YOU the great catch. Read, turn off the computer for a week, kill your TV, lift weights/exercise, focus on YOU. BECOME the interesting person that attracts the high caliber women.

And spin plates.

 

[penkitten]

i tell everyone not to date coworkers. what happens if you date and break up? things turn bad at work.
the two need to be separate in my opinion.

 

[Magma]

i tell everyone not to date coworkers. what happens if you date and break up? things turn bad at work.
the two need to be separate in my opinion.

I always felt this to be a given. Don't sh!t where you eat. By the way, are you still quitting those filthy cigs?

 

[The tin man]

i tell everyone not to date coworkers. what happens if you date and break up? things turn bad at work.
the two need to be separate in my opinion.

We don't really work together. We work for the same college and colleges are big.

I do spin plates, but I would like to get somewhere with this woman. I have heard through the grapevines that she thinks I'm a hot but considers me to be a player.

I will read more of the bible.

 

[penkitten]

if you really want to ask her out, you will.
it's hard to get somewhere when you aren't asking her out...

 

[The tin man]

if you really want to ask her out, you will.
it's hard to get somewhere when you aren't asking her out...

First I did the casual ask out: Hey, I'm going out for a beer tonight at this place. She showed up with a friend. Talked, even touched my back, but finished her drink and her friend and her were off to some girl's night.

Second time, I asked her out to dinner. She said she thought it would be better if we kept things platonic since we work on one project together.

I'm sorry but I just don't buy the whole work thing. People date all the time on my campus. It's what academic life is all about!

 

[penkitten]

well it seems that at first her interest was high and that she might be shy because she brought a friend and they didnt stay all night, they had other things to do .
but then you asked her to dinner and she reacted like her interest was low. perhaps she really is not wanting to date someone she has to work with, or perhaps she just isnt as interested anymore.

what do you normally do at times like this to boost a gal's interest?

 

[The tin man]

well it seems that at first her interest was high and that she might be shy because she brought a friend and they didnt stay all night, they had other things to do .
but then you asked her to dinner and she reacted like her interest was low. perhaps she really is not wanting to date someone she has to work with, or perhaps she just isnt as interested anymore.

what do you normally do at times like this to boost a gal's interest?

I usually assume the girl is playing me and walk away.

Maybe I should do the same in this case.

Would anyone have played this differently?

 

[KarmaSutra]

well it seems that at first her interest was high and that she might be shy because she brought a friend and they didnt stay all night, they had other things to do .
but then you asked her to dinner and she reacted like her interest was low. perhaps she really is not wanting to date someone she has to work with, or perhaps she just isnt as interested anymore.

what do you normally do at times like this to boost a gal's interest?

'Kitten clean out your PM box please.

 

[ketostix]

I usually assume the girl is playing me and walk away.

Maybe I should do the same in this case.

Would anyone have played this differently?

She is either playing you or she not interested. In either case, you would pull away, be seen gaming other girls, and if that doesn't motivate her to show you an indicator of interest, then you can conclude she's not interested and forget about it. Or you can keep pursuing her and banging your head against the wall only to totally validate her and be her little friend. From what you said it sounds like she has some interest but is playing hard to get games, or it's possible she had some interest but lost it at this point for whatever reason.

 

[penkitten]

'Kitten clean out your PM box please.

okie dokie!

 

[DavenJuan]

tin man.. post your age as it is relevant when posting in MM forum.

as far as your "dilemna" with this coworker, you continue to ask her out and she gives you some sort of sh*ttest everytime.

IMO it doesnt seem that there is any value built and you just ask her out to see what she says. I personally dont think the whole working together/dating is a good idea.

but i do think that this same situation will present itself in any other prospect. the most important advice anyone on this board can give you is to READ THE BIBLE.

i know it seems like a task, but there are no shortcuts that you can take around this. there is SOOO much information that is stored in the archives and in the bible that wil get you started on the right track.

good luck brother

 

[Commando]

We don't really work together. We work for the same college and colleges are big.

I do spin plates, but I would like to get somewhere with this woman. I have heard through the grapevines that she thinks I'm a hot but considers me to be a player.

I will read more of the bible.

If she considers you to be a "player" then spinning plates around her might prove to be a disadvantage. In that it will only validate her opinion of you and put her off more.