"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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spang

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im 31 and i like women that are younger than me. when i say younger i mean like 20 and up. i cant really explain why to people. i talk to women of different ages and it seems to be the same deal either way, they are all in the same mindset. most women my age have kids and i want no part of that. or they have been married a few times. people act like its a crime for me to decline pursuing women with kids. my friend tells me all the time to lower my standards because im never going to get a young beautiful girl. hes always telling me that his wifes hot friends are all out of my league when i talk to them. and that i should shoot for women that are in my league. this kind of annoys me because ive never believed in "leagues" and that fact that he thinks im good enough to be friends with him but not good enough for his friends.
i go to a university and class resumes next week. everyday i will once again be surrounded by beautiful young women, it drives me nuts.
maybe subconsciously i am just trying to make up for loss. i feel like girls have always avoided me and i was a total beta 10 years ago. i really feel ****ty about my age to be honest, i hate growing older, even though i feel basically the same.
so what is your opinion on this? maybe my friend is right, i should settle for whatever i can get. maybe i should stop pursuing younger women. it seems the consensus here is "who cares approach whatever." so thats why i wanted to know.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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JdelaSilviera

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lol, you are still very young.... Don´t be silly. Everyone starts feeling "old" by their twenties. It´s perfectly acceptable for you to date women in their twenties... a lot of guys do that, why can´t you. Also most women around 30 aren´t hot....
 

DJ_Dave

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Of course you like women that are younger than you and don't want to date women with kids etc. You were right first time, who cares about leagues. Going for hot young girls might be more difficult but don't lower your standards and settle. Just forget about the age thing as there are plenty hot women whether they're 20 or 35. From a student's point of view I'd say make some friends at uni (male and female) if you haven't already and then you can hang out with them and their friends without seeming like the weird older guy.
 

zekko

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I can't help but find it humorous when people talk about "younger women" and being the "weird older guy" when they're only 25. Lol. Lololololololol.

Anyway, by the time you get to be my age, your tastes will change a bit. The young girls are just as appealing as ever to me physically, but their lack of maturity is an annoyance. I used to find any girl over 30 unappealing, but that changed as I got older, I learned to appreciate them. There are very few girls my own age I find attractive though, I must admit.

But when you deal with older girls, they are more likely to have children. I'm not pleased with that, but I've been fortunate to find a few who didn't have kids. I think I've been lucky though.
 

yuppaz

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Your friend doesn't sound like much of a friend. + he's wrong. There isn't anything wrong with dating younger girls. If your psychological maturity matches hers your golden.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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TillTheEndOfTime

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spang said:
im 31 and i like women that are younger than me. when i say younger i mean like 20 and up. i cant really explain why to people. i talk to women of different ages and it seems to be the same deal either way, they are all in the same mindset. most women my age have kids and i want no part of that. or they have been married a few times. people act like its a crime for me to decline pursuing women with kids. my friend tells me all the time to lower my standards because im never going to get a young beautiful girl. hes always telling me that his wifes hot friends are all out of my league when i talk to them. and that i should shoot for women that are in my league. this kind of annoys me because ive never believed in "leagues" and that fact that he thinks im good enough to be friends with him but not good enough for his friends.
i go to a university and class resumes next week. everyday i will once again be surrounded by beautiful young women, it drives me nuts.
maybe subconsciously i am just trying to make up for loss. i feel like girls have always avoided me and i was a total beta 10 years ago. i really feel ****ty about my age to be honest, i hate growing older, even though i feel basically the same.
so what is your opinion on this? maybe my friend is right, i should settle for whatever i can get. maybe i should stop pursuing younger women. it seems the consensus here is "who cares approach whatever." so thats why i wanted to know.
There is nothing wrong with not wanting to chase women with children. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. It is perfectly normal NOT to want an automatic family when you start seeing someone.

Early 20's is too young though in my opinion. I am only 28 and I wouldn't even chase girls in their early 20's. They are just too ridiculous and immature. Girls between 24-28 should be good for you.
 

DJ_Dave

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Just to clarify, i'm not saying dating 21 year olds would be weird, just that it might be perceived that way by some if you're one of a handful of mature students in a class of 200 20-somethings.
 
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