"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Younger Gal Feels Rejected, But Still Attracted: What To Do?

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OK, this is a follow up to a post in general discussion, but given the difference in age between the gal and I, I thought I'd post here to get feedback. She's college aged, I'm older than college age, which will put some of these convo's in context.

There's this hot blonde gal in my class. She's been gaming me from the instant she saw me, even before class, and I've been half heartedly pushing the action. But I've blown many opportunities she's suggested for isolations, and I'm pretty sure she's getting ticked off and tired of trying. For example, day one she suggested that we walk to the bookstore together. Iso 1. I bailed. Later, she said she wanted to study together. I said nothing. And just the other day, I was talking with her along with classmates, and I just bailed abruptly. She sounded very sad and frowned when I left. She thought we were all chillin' and I just walk off like that. At other times, she's waited for me before going to break, by sitting or standing there staring at me.

The thing is, she gets super nervous every time I talk to her. She looks dazed, or freezes up, or stutters and it throws me off and actually makes me nervous.

Yesterday, a couple guys gamed her (same guys talking to her after class) and she's rolling with that and digging the attention. I tried talking to her again too, but she's been taking jabs at me. "Oh, it's easier to learn when you're YOUNGER." This is a dig at our age difference, since she is younger. And she wouldn't look up from her phone when I talked to her again.

Oddly, when the instructor asked us to pair up, she turned to stare at me AGAIN. I said "come on, Sheila, let's practice." She said "no, I'm going to practice with HIM."

My sense is she's ticked at me bailing on her, rejecting her, etc. She's still attracted but is exacting a measure of revenge. How do I work this?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I always make myself a rare commodity when I lose ground, but that's not as easy when you're in a class together. Withdrawl yourself, but absolutely don't let on that any of this got to you, or caused you a second thought.
 

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Exactly whats her age and yours?
 

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It's slightly tricky as she has just graduated from high school, and I haven't asked her age. I assume she's 18, or about to turn 18 shortly, which is a bit of an issue. I am in my thirties. Do I ask her her age, straight up? She's asked me my age straight up and I made her guess. But she says she's not good at guessing. Anyway, yeah, that's the issue.
 

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I don't see your reluctance.

"Hot 18 year old blond lusts after 30 something man" . The problem is ?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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What if she's not yet 18 and won't turn 18 for a few months? That means I'm wasting a lot of time, as she's moving off to college. Maybe I should just ask her age straight up next time.
 

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I read your last thread and DonS definitely called it.

In some of your posts you say she tries to ignore you, not even looking up from her phone. And other times she gives you interest.
She's just baiting you along, every guy in her orbit is in the same position.

She might give them some attention, she might have asked them places before and they refused, but they all, just like you think they have a chance. And now they all hang around her trying to fix things, thinking they blew their chance but she is still attracted, just like you.

That's her power, her gravity has you sucked in for good.
 

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Yeah, her game is fascinating to watch, and it's completely natural. My gut reaction is to let it go. I'm not sure if anyone else read the last posts in my other thread, but it's pretty clear she is using the other guy who gamed her to do her work for her.

We'll see how it goes.
 

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I've never met you and I've never seen you game, and I don't know what your experience level is, so, meh.

edit: where are your field reports? videos of pickups? show us how it's done, if you are that knowledgeable.

DonS said:
You are living in a fantasy. In your prior thread your ****y read on the situation was completely wrong, and I laid out exactly what was going to happen and you scoffed. Then exactly what I said was going to happen, happened. Hell, I even had posters rep me after you posted how it ended, saying "wow, great read."

So instead of taking my advice there, you start a whole new thread in an attempt to reframe her rejection back to your fantasy. Bro, you got outplayed by a girl half your age; lose this ****y know it all attitude and start listening and MAYBE you could actually get somewhere.

But maybe you are just a glutton for punishment.
 

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guytime said:
I've never met you and I've never seen you game, and I don't know what your experience level is, so, meh.

edit: where are your field reports? videos of pickups? show us how it's done, if you are that knowledgeable.
He's giving good advice -- that's way more valuable than being some douche with a hidden camera trying to validate themselves on the internet.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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To be honest, what I sense overall is your negativity and bitterness towards women, rather than any deep insight. But thanks for stalking me in every forum of sosuave! For everyone else, thanks for your balanced insights. They are always welcome.

DonS said:
You are living in a fantasy. In your prior thread your ****y read on the situation was completely wrong, and I laid out exactly what was going to happen and you scoffed. Then exactly what I said was going to happen, happened. Hell, I even had posters rep me after you posted how it ended, saying "wow, great read."

So instead of taking my advice there, you start a whole new thread in an attempt to reframe her rejection back to your fantasy. Bro, you got outplayed by a girl half your age; lose this ****y know it all attitude and start listening and MAYBE you could actually get somewhere.

But maybe you are just a glutton for punishment.
 

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guytime said:
My sense is she's ticked at me bailing on her, rejecting her, etc. She's still attracted but is exacting a measure of revenge. How do I work this?
Q. Do you know what is missing here ?
A. YOUR action and your leadership.

What do you want from this young woman?

Your first post above is full of stories about what she did, and your reaction to HER behavior. YOu appear to be the passive one and she is just trying out a variety of tactics to get your attention.

There is no report of YOUR actions so far. ( well, none worth a damn)
I do not see why you posted here.
If you do not want any connection with her let her go. IF you do have a plan, act on it.
 

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After reading this, it's pretty clear that:

a) you have no success with women in the real world
b) you keyboard jockey and troll to unleash your pent up sexual frustration.

No amount of green dots will make up for the fact that your only pleasure in life comes from stalking people on the internet. Goodbye, psycho.

DonS said:
You are living in a fantasy. In your prior thread your ****y read on the situation was completely wrong, and I laid out exactly what was going to happen and you scoffed. Then exactly what I said was going to happen, happened. Hell, I even had posters rep me after you posted how it ended, saying "wow, great read."

So instead of taking my advice there, you start a whole new thread in an attempt to reframe her rejection back to your fantasy. Bro, you got outplayed by a girl half your age; lose this ****y know it all attitude and start listening and MAYBE you could actually get somewhere.

But maybe you are just a glutton for punishment.
 
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