Young women in the U.S. today do not understand the world

[BetterCallSaul]

I wanted to post this article because I thought it was a great writeup about how young women today are mostly spoiled and clearly live in a bubble here in the U.S. in how they think the world works. It's convenient too because I see this exact same type of thinking in President Obama in how he handles foreign affairs, which is to say terribly....because he doesn't understand how the rest of the world operates and he just doesn't care either.

Young women don't understand, and they don't care, because a lot of them still have the princess mindset. Now, when you get this thinking with a lot of them congregating on college campuses all over the country, you then get a mix for screwups involving hooking up with young guys. Young girls want to bang, now they have an outlet to do so, but then when they do it, they realize they probably shouldn't have ridden the last 3-4 rounds of that carousel so they claim rape.

Now you see where this so-called "rape culture" comes from. What's even better is this article was written by a woman.

http://time.com/3444749/camille-paglia-the-modern-campus-cannot-comprehend-evil/

 

[Stagger Lee]

Yeah I think it was a good article, on target, and surprising it was written by a female.

 

[Mike32ct]

Yeah agreed. I don't think a lot of young women truly understand the dangers that are out there. They just assume that, "As long as I'm a tolerant tree hugging princess, nobody can ever harm me."

This applies both locally as well as for travel, both domestic and international.

 

[dasein]

Paglia has always been an intelligent voice in the wilderness on these types of issues. Note that despite a decades long career and much accomplishment, you probably haven't heard of her before. That's what it means to have a disfavored, rational point of view that the bureau-edu-union-victimology-MSM complex doesn't approve. Everyone knows the names of the vapid cast of The View, few know of Camille Paglia.

 

[speed dawg]

Ignorance among women, in my opinion probably does influence politics. I personally think dictators and politicians and corporations all assume that the majority of society really doesn't care or feel personally empowered enough to threaten the system.

How many women can identify all 50 states on a map? I'm thinking very few.

Ignorance of history/trends/facts/etc., whether it's chosen or simply from inexperience, DEFINES the Democratic party. That along with envy.

 

[Soolaimon]

Most Americans including Republicans can't find their way on a map.

George Bush and his neo cons had a terrible foreign policy they started all the mess we have today!

 

[Tictac]

Pha Q Soolimon.

Who asked you to spew partisan politics here?

Get lost loser.

 

[Soolaimon]

Pha Q Soolimon.

Who asked you to spew partisan politics here?

Get lost loser.

The same to you!

Bettercallsaul, speed dawg spewed their partisan politics.

I can post mine too.

 

[Colossus]

In many ways I see America as the modern day Rome, destined to fall under the weight of our own grandiose appetites and natural ignorance.

I am continually struck by how soft and spoiled we are, especially females. It blows my mind. I think often how utterly FVCKED we would be if there were some sort of large-scale societal collapse---like a biological pandemic, an economic disaster, or a war on American soil. Our entire day is supported by things we cannot sustain individually or without industrial support: our heated homes, our morning latte, our posh vehicles taking us to work in complete comfort, our soft office jobs, the grocery stores we 100% rely on for sustenance, even the purified and heated water we get right out of our tap. And WOMEN----they can hardly get through a chilly night without blankets and fleece PJs and hot cocoa. This is the Land of the Soft. Very few people can sustain themselves and their families without outside support.

And beyond our comforts of living, I agree with Paglia that young people (women especially) have no earthly concept of what a wilderness the world is when you are outside the soft and safe suburban-upper middle class-academic infrastructure. The idiocy of "rape culture" aside, men taking women violently against their will is not a recent phenomenon. The world laughs at our ignorance and insular stupidity.

 

[user43770]

And beyond our comforts of living, I agree with Paglia that young people (women especially) have no earthly concept of what a wilderness the world is when you are outside the soft and safe suburban-upper middle class-academic infrastructure. The idiocy of "rape culture" aside, men taking women violently against their will is not a recent phenomenon. The world laughs at our ignorance and insular stupidity.

You couldn't have said it better. I agree with your entire post.

Expanding on women's naivity, we all know women have a herd mentality - advertisers bank on this.

Every commercial I see these days makes me shake my head. All they do is perpetuate the entitled mentality. It's so engrained in most women that if you sat them down and tried to explain reality, they'd call you a creepy liar.

 

[user43770]

Like this new commercial with 8 year olds telling their parents to take them on vacations around the world so that they can be "more cultured." And it will "make them do better in school."

I need to get rid of cable.

 

[Soolaimon]

Stop living in the past. It's Obummers new bungling which is causing all of the issues now.


Now, let's see you dodge the current issues and long for the good old days where you can blame someone or something other than your own twisted ideology.

The past of Bush is what gave us this problem!

Nobody bungled it worse than Bush dumping it all on to Obama and the next President to fix.

If there was no invasion there would be no problems lke this today!

At least Obama has a coalition of countries working with us.

Bush never had that with his "experts" advising him.

 

[Special EDy]

^^^^

Truth.

When we invert Maslow's hierarchy of needs to place political correctness at the bottom (required) and the primary necessities at the top (optional), the crumbling of society is inevitable.

While I agree with the frailty of civilization, the idea that the world is a hostile place whose natural state is chaos, I think you misunderstand some things with this reference. Security would fall into the bottom of the pyramid of needs. These ignorant women we are referring to have a basic need for security and safety which they feel is not being met. These women are not worried about political correctness, they are concerned for their safety. Whether or not this need is realistically being met or not is an entirely different argument all together.

I don't disagree that they are wrong, I just disagree on the argument of their priorities being wrong

 

[Soolaimon]

The bungles of Obama is what made it worse. He rushed troops out of Iraq, bombed MULTIPLE sides of Syria and was key in creating the new ISIS group.

Obama had nothing to do with it.

Our troops were leaving Iraq anyway.

Even if you left next year it wouldn't prevent it.

Bush taking out Saddam is what formed them after all 3 sections of people splintered off leaving the country in chaos.

His father and his old generals warned him that this would happen. They didn't take him out in Desert Storm because they knew what would occur.

Bush didn't listen to them causing this mess.

Bush lied saying this war was going to be swift and quick.

Was it?

Why didn't Bush end this war under his Presidency?

 

[Tictac]

Obama chose to keep a political debt to be out of Iraq over the objections of nearly the entire military establishment as well as Leon Panetta (as both Director of the CIA, then Secretary of Defense), Hillary Clinton (as Secretary of State) and his own National Security Advisor. Each of the warned about the inevitable consequences. Obama chose to sing the Barney Song and pretend that what his advisers told him would happen would not happen, which it promptly did to no one's surprise but Obama's.

He chose political expediency over foreign policy, optics over substance.

Don't paint a turd orange and try to tell people it's sherbet Soolaimon. It shows you for the shill you are.

Read some current events before you post such tripe.

 

[Tictac]

I don't get my news or analysis from "Salon". You shouldn't either. It's fun to read. But it's standards and analysis are superficial at best.

Leaving Iraq with an effective army was entirely dependent upon building a non-commissioned officer corp. That job was known, when it was taken on, to take no less than 10 years. That job was abandoned in less than 4 years.

It's true enough that the Iraqis resisted giving US soldiers in theater immunity from criminal charges. But rather than negotiate, the US quit the negotiations thus making the timeline shorter. That was in no small way was Obama deciding that his politics meant more than the well understood foreign policy implications of not developing the Iraq army's non-com officers.

You won't find stuff like that in "Salon". You need to read "The New York Times", "The Washington Post", foreign newspapers and "Foreign Policy".

 

[Soolaimon]

Obama chose to keep a political debt to be out of Iraq over the objections of nearly the entire military establishment as well as Leon Panetta (as both Director of the CIA, then Secretary of Defense), Hillary Clinton (as Secretary of State) and his own National Security Advisor. Each of the warned about the inevitable consequences. Obama chose to sing the Barney Song and pretend that what his advisers told him would happen would not happen, which it promptly did to no one's surprise but Obama's.

He chose political expediency over foreign policy, optics over substance.

Don't paint a turd orange and try to tell people it's sherbet Soolaimon. It shows you for the shill you are.

Read some current events before you post such tripe.

That still didn't create the problem we have today!

Tripe? Are you trying to rewrite history? Are you calling President Bush and his generals liars? Are you smarter than decorated war generals?

Gen. Colin Powell said Once you break it you own it.

President Bush and his generals didn't take out saddam in Desert Storm they knew the country would unravel into chaos.

Read some history to know your facts.

President Bush warned his son George W. not to risk this war.

George W's answer in an interview was I answer to a higher Father.

George W Bush spent 1 Trilion Dollars and 5 years training Iraqi forces to take control of their own country.

Why couldn't they control what they were trained to do?

How long do you expect troops to stay there?

Troops were there since 2003. Iraq wanted the troops out. The troops were going to be leaving anyway. We were training Iraqi Forces to have a secure government.

Who started the consequences in the first place?

George W Bush said this war was going to be swift and quick.

Why didn't Bush end the war he started?

Again, Obummer RUSHED it, even when advised against doing so by the military.

You don't know that.

I agree with everything said about Bush, except your last question. He didn't end it because the military advised him to stay there until they had a sustainable system.

Barry ignored the advice. And now we have ISIS.

Nothing was rushed. Obama slowly was drawing down the troops like he said.

Troops were there since 2003. Why were we spending trillions of dollars training Iraqi Forces to control their country?

He didn't end it because he couldn't our troops were still being attacked.

George W Bush ignored the advice of invading a country that was no threat to us. They formed because of Bush's rush to war after all 3 groups splintered off into chaos.

 

[Tictac]

Bush did not take out Sadaam because UN Security Council Resolution 687 restricted the coalition to the liberation of Kuwait.

Learn history before you attempt to recount to someone that knows it Foolaimon.

Regardless of how things began, this President made a hash of its end over the objections of people smarter and more experienced than him. These are the people he brought in to advise him. And he ignored them in order to meet a political debt.

Blame Bush if you like. He's been back in Texas for almost seven years.

Repeat drivel if you like too. The Iraqis were conflicted about US troop withdrawal. The non-immunity issue was the excuse Obama used to quit the negotiations and exit. And he did this as his Secretaries if Defense and State and his own national security adviser told him what the consequences would be of leaving the Iraq Army I'll prepared to do its job. The training was known to be a ten year effort.

Saying something over and over and louder and louder is what children do.

You are a child when it comes to this topic. You know nothing except what your liberal sources tell you and you repeat it.

Get some real news and facts and then come back here.

 

[Soolaimon]

Bush did not take out Sadaam because UN Security Council Resolution 687 restricted the coalition to the liberation of Kuwait.

Learn history before you attempt to recount to someone that knows it Foolaimon.

Regardless of how things began, this President made a hash of its end over the objections of people smarter and more experienced than him. These are the people he brought in to advise him. And he ignored them in order to meet a political debt.

Blame Bush if you like. He's been back in Texas for almost seven years.

Repeat drivel if you like too. The Iraqis were conflicted about US troop withdrawal. The non-immunity issue was the excuse Obama used to quit the negotiations and exit. And he did this as his Secretaries if Defense and State and his own national security adviser told him what the consequences would be of leaving the Iraq Army I'll prepared to do its job. The training was known to be a ten year effort.

Saying something over and over and louder and louder is what children do.

You are a child when it comes to this topic. You know nothing except what your liberal sources tell you and you repeat it.

Get some real news and facts and then come back here.

I will point you to Bush's former generals interviews. Are you going to disagree with them? Are they Liberal?

The invasion is what gave us this mess.

Anything I say you are going to disagree with.

Doesn't matter how long Bush was out of office. He left office with Iraq in Chaos expecting another man to fix his mess.

When it isn't fixed to what you like the man trying to fix the mess gets the blame according to you.

Blame the man who gave us this crap without finishing what he started.

Why didn't Bush end his war he told you was going to be a short quick war?

 

[Tictac]

Congress authorized the war Bush proposed. And despite a hard won and partially botched pacification, Iraq was mostly calm, especially after the surge and the battle of Fallujah.

What generals are you talking about? No one wanted a permanent US presence. What all the military and diplomatic folks wanted was a functioning military. And all estimates were that it would take 10 years to build one. That's how long it takes to build a non-commissioned officer corp which is the backbone of any viable military force.

That job was abandoned by Obama in favor of 'getting the troops out'. Americans had no combat role in Iraq. They were advisors and trainers only. In using the no immunity excuse to exit, cabinet secretaries, DOD and the CIA all knew, told Obama so and are on record saying so, that the first time the Iraq army faced a challenge it would collapse. It did so on January 3rd, 2014 when ISIS took Fallujah. Ten days later, Obama referred to ISIS as a 'JV squad'.

So Iraq moved from an un-easily pacified country with Sunnis, Shias and Kurds with no war, to a nation under threat of a military force - ISIS all on Obama's watch and over the objections of the US military (the generals), the CIA, the DOD and national security advisor.

So type some more 'Bush, Bush, Bush' Foolaimon. You're the only one that believes it.

Read a newspaper. Read a book. But stop pulling stuff out of your ass.