"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Young women and flakyness

Prodoge

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After browsing SS for a bit a general opinion is that girls in their early 20's are rather flaky.

Last saturday i organised for a date over text for tonight. Before i sent her a text to confirm and she said she is doing something else tonight.

The thing is i didn't get a 100% yes, let's say 80%. In this case i hadn't texted or spoke to her for 4 weeks and she seemed quite enthousiastic.

This also might be my own fault because i hadn't arraged an exact place, but said we would go for some drinks. (It would have been the second date with her so the logistics would have been the same as for the first).
Today I sent a text to tell her where we would be going and she cancelled.

BUT in the same text she asked me what i am doing tomorrow night.
PS: she had also flaked for the 1st date which did not go at its best (need some practice..)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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RangerMIke

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So you agreed to a "check with me later" date.

Okay... you're young... here is some advice. Unless a woman is ALL IN for a date, you give her a time/place/activity and she says "Yes" you can expect she will flake on you. If she says, "Okay... but my sister might be in town...." or "Sure, call me to confirm....." You WILL GET FLAKED. This is not just young women it is ALL women. They all do this. If you get this response then withdraw the offer and tell her to let you know when things are not so up in the air. Chances are you will NEVER hear from her again because for whatever reason, she has low interest. Just let her drift off, if she likes you she'll get curious and come back because you aren't acting like most clueless dudes.

Don't waste your time with women who have low interest.
 

Prodoge

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So you agreed to a "check with me later" date.

Okay... you're young... here is some advice. Unless a woman is ALL IN for a date, you give her a time/place/activity and she says "Yes" you can expect she will flake on you. If she says, "Okay... but my sister might be in town...." or "Sure, call me to confirm....." You WILL GET FLAKED. This is not just young women it is ALL women. They all do this. If you get this response then withdraw the offer and tell her to let you know when things are not so up in the air. Chances are you will NEVER hear from her again because for whatever reason, she has low interest. Just let her drift off, if she likes you she'll get curious and come back because you aren't acting like most clueless dudes.

Don't waste your time with women who have low interest.
Because she asked what i am doing tomorrow, should i try to reshedule or forget it ?
 

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Reschedule but not on the ''tomorrow'', cause you have plans (you do for her)
 

RangerMIke

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Because she asked what i am doing tomorrow, should i try to reshedule or forget it ?
When a woman asks you what you are doing on a day... and you want to see her... In my experience he best response is "Well I'll be with you at ... then give her a time and place." Anything other than, "Okay", or a counter offer, should be met with the following response.

If she says No, then just say okay and end the convo and forget about her.

If she gets all wishy washy, then say "Sounds like you have too much on your plate, let me know when you aren't so pressed for time." Then walk the fvck away. She is either going to say something like she can make it (Indication of high interest), make a counter (indication of interest), or any thing else. ANYTHING else MUST be taken as a unequivocal NO. If she won't make time for you or make you a real counter offer she has low interest and you must move on. It is possible she might be interested and she is playing games, if this is the case, and you walk away, she will reach out to you... when that happens try to make a date... otherwise just forget about her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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El Payaso

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She's just looking for attention/validation. She wants to see if you're banging other women.

Tell her you're going out with a friend. Tell her that she invited you for bowling and drinks. If she keeps texting after that, tell her that you're busy or that you're getting ready and she should have a nice day/evening/night/whatever.

This should drive up the competition anxiety in her if she's interested.
 

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Like what the rest have said, it's something all girls do. Just got flaked on by a 33yr old today.

No biggie. Saves you time and money.

Spend it on girls that enjoy your company.
 

Prodoge

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She's just looking for attention/validation. She wants to see if you're banging other women.

Tell her you're going out with a friend. Tell her that she invited you for bowling and drinks. If she keeps texting after that, tell her that you're busy or that you're getting ready and she should have a nice day/evening/night/whatever.

This should drive up the competition anxiety in her if she's interested.
Well i told her that today I was going to town to some shops and I could do with someone to carry the baggs. She answered no thanks lol.
I think i'll go next
 

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She counter offered. That is a sign of interest. The previous date YOU **** Ed up because you didn'the set a definately date time and place. You could have had a date with this girl if you had just told her you had plans tomorrow but when is she free next week? Get anew evening date for drinks at a specific time and place and you are good. Your text showed her you didn'the think much of her (ya you can hold my bags you dumb ***** who flaked on me) and that you were butthurt she flaked on bad plans.
 

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With younger women, especially the hottest ones in their early 20's, it's "out of sight, out of mind". You need to see them several times before you show up on their radar once you are out of view. Often they are physically attracted in the moment, but don't take you seriously. Also, they have so many other options you get buried in the text list faster than yesterday's news.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Julian

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With younger women, especially the hottest ones in their early 20's, it's "out of sight, out of mind". You need to see them several times before you show up on their radar once you are out of view. Often they are physically attracted in the moment, but don't take you seriously. Also, they have so many other options you get buried in the text list faster than yesterday's news.

so true
 
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