"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Young Stallion's Dating Adventures

Young Stallion

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Hello Everyone,

Inspired by Rubato, I have decided to start my own thread detailing dating and attraction in my day to day life. This should be very interesting as I am a very outgoing guy who talks to lots of girls.

28-January-2012
I stopped in at a local library today because I needed to use a computer to reply to a time sensitive email and I was nowhere near my house.

I required an account because I was not registered at this library so I went and stood in line.

In front of me (the only person in front of me) was a very pretty girl with glasses who looked rather sweet, shye and intellectual, she was likely at least 5-6 years younger than me (I am 29) and I would hazard to guess she would have been a 3rd or 4th year university student.

The clerk then said "next" and she moved forward, for some reason the clerk then asked me if I was with her. I smiled and said "nah but she sure is pretty dont you think". Then I smiled at both the clerk and the girl.

This is when a second clerk said that she could help me. As I started talking to the clerk, the girl who I complimented said "Thanks for the compliment" and I replied by touching her arm and saying "Your welcome, but its gonna cost you your name". She then said "My your forward" and she laughed and told me her name.

Of course the clerk who was a 50 something year old woman, seemed oblivious to my conversation with the girl and said sir would you answer me, how can I help you....repeatedly. I smiled at the clerk then the girl and I said, just a second got to take care of business. Then I got my account.

After getting my account I went back to the girl and said "look I have got to get going but I do believe I should give you my card just in case you are still in doubt with how forward I can be". I gave her my card and said said thanks.

I did not have a pen or paper on me and my cellphone was dead so I did not want to look awkward while trying to ask for her number, and then asking two library clerks who did seem annoyed with my lack of focus for a pen and paper.

Don't think much will come out of it, but it was fun.

-YS
 
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30-January-2012
Today was an interesting day at work, I had 5 distinct events with 5 distinct ladies. It is always a fine line flirting at work because you have to be classy, tastefull and not to threatning if you compliment or flirt...you almost have to do so in a way that just makes the girl feel good about themselves without realizing its a hit.

Girl 1: Early on in the day I walked by a very cute little women (Early 30's), she was dressed very sleek and classy today, so as I walked by her I said "Ahh looking classy today there _insert name". I was also tugging my suit coat so she would see that I was refferring to her jacket. She giggled and said thanks _insert name). I then held the door open and she walked through and then I said "No tip money today for door opening services?". She said " am afraid not" as she tapped my arm. "That's to bad" I replied, "perhaps you can save me a muffin then, you know they are always gone when I go to get one". She just smiled and shook her head and said "later". The ironic thing is I was away from my desk for 20 minutes during the morning and when I came back.....there was a muffin on my desk! Cool, I had forgotten my breakfast and wanted a muffin.

Girl 2: Really shouldnt include this one as she is a bonafide friend of mine and I hold her husband in very high regard. (They are both in their mid 30's). She wanted me to come to her cubicle to ask me some advice...I went over and we started talking and she said "Out of 10, would you say that"...I interrupted her and said "Yes I think you are very pretty"....she laughed and said "awwe your so sweet". Then she asked me her real question which of course was a work related opinion. I like to make people feel good and I think it is good to practice people skills where you can dish out compliments at work without being creepy. You have to pick your spots though and KNOW who you are talking to and to an extent how they will react.

Girl 3: This girl is one my favourite work people (Late 20's). She came into my office and noticed the collection of books I had on my bookshelf (Ultimate Leadership, Executive Charisma, The Power Within, The Howard Hughes Story, Art Of War, NLP, Extreme Confidence and 4 Hour Workweek. She immediately took one of my books and started reading it "oh my god I have always wanted to read this book". She then stood there reading the first page while I glanced over some of my notes. I smiled and said "see something you like" she looked at me, smiled and said "yes". So I got up took her by the arm, directed her to a seat and said "read here while I work" she said laughed and I said "yes this can be my waiting room and people can come and sit untill I am ready to talk to them". She said "Ok let me know when" as she read the book, then after 3 minutes I said "ok, so what was it you wanted to talk about". She said, "nothing I just wanted to read this book, can I borrow it". I said "nah, I am reading it myself, but this one right here I have read already". She smiled then we talked about the book. A few minutes later I went to her cubicle as she was working with the book I had read in my hands and I tapped her on the shoulder and said "look left and close your eyes, dont worry I wont steal anything from your drawer". She then looked left, laughed and I put the book in her drawer and she said "which book is this" I replied by saying "dont know, just one of them" as I walked out of her cubicle. Later on she thanked me for letting her have one of the books to read. Awe she is so cool!

Girl 4:
This one was a bit more risky and it was a girl I had never seen before (Early 30's). She was at the elevator and she clearly hadnt pressed the elevator button and was waiting. I went up to her, smiled and pretended to wait to. (she smiled at me as well and opened her body position to me). After a minute I said "so, do you enjoy watching elevators all day?" She said "I know, they are so slow" I smled and said "really, then I pressed the elevator down button." She laughed and said "I cant believe I didnt notice that". I told her that it was ok that she didnt notice because most engineers are absent minded. She said "whoa, did you just say that". "Yes Ma'am I did" I responded. She then told me that she most certainly was not an engineer and she worked in HR. So I told her that if thats the case she should have noticed the elevator button not being pushed". "Observation skills are key in HR" I told her. When we both went to the elevator she pressed her floor and I pressed mine. When the door opened to her floor.....we again both stood there....so I said "Those keen observational skills again?" As I smiled at her very warmley. She then said "geeze I am so absent minded today" So I said, thats ok "my name is _insert name" and I will gladley save you from those elevators any time. She laughed and told me her name then said by.

The ironic thing is, is that later on in the day I saw her again and she invited me to a toastmasters presentation with her because she had no one to go with and I seemed fun. I said yes of course I would go.

Girl 5: This girl was NOT a work girl! I was out for lunch and a waitress (Early 20's) came and gave me my water, I noticed she was very shye so I said "how come your so shye" and she said "because I have always been shye". I then said "your a student right, probably an accounting major at _insert local college". She said "WOW how did you know that". I said "simple, your young and well put together and dont seem like a waitress hence student, you are not artsy or extroverted hence would say accounting or business, since you seem very proper and linear I would say "accountant" I also believe you are way to pretty to be a bookworm, more wellrounded hence the college I mentioned would suit you perfectly. She then said "you must be a psychic" I said "no, I just am good at reading people". She then asked me what I did for living so I told her and we talked for about 5 minutes. Then when I got the bill I said "I would ask for your number, but I am not going to because I want you to do me a favour, I want you to hold your head high and talk to at least 5 different people outside of work today, your the prettiest girl in this resteraunt so you should start acting like it. If you complete this task then next time I shall ask for your number, deal? She said deal. Then we shook hands and I paid and left.

Those are my encounters today.
 

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01-February-2012
I saw Girl 4 today from the stories just above. She came up to me and told me how well dressed I was and said "god you clean up well". I told her that it wasnt my fault because I was born this way.

"My arent we ****y today" she said as she smiled, I smiled back and told her I would see her at Toastmasters.

She said "Actually I was wondering if you wanted to go to a local pub with me this weekend". I told her that I would certainly, but I am a pretty busy guy and that she should call or text me the day we are going out to remind me. I then gave her my card.

Then she walked away and said "later playboy"

This from a girl who works in Human Resources!
 

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Damn son, who taught you to spit game like that? Actually your not even spitting game, your just a suave confident dude. Your cooler than the other side of the pillow. Best thing you can do with a girl is maintain a cool/confident frame - which you do oh so well.

Your very skilled with new peolpe, which is something I need to work on (when sober at least haha). If im on a date and can mentally prepare ahead of time i usually have little trouble maintaining my confident demeanor and swag. But a chance encounter with a hot elevator babe could throw me off hardcore. Sure i might have an initial witty comment but after that its up in the air.

Im mainly suave when i have time to prepare mentally beforehand. Any advice on how to be smooth and confident all the time? I've been working on taking a breath and tryin to just chill but often forget :( Im only 23 though so i still have time, hope to be as good as you when im your age.

Stay fly man and keep updating the journal.

P.S. of the books you've read which would you recommend the most?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Young Stallion said:
Girl 5: This girl was NOT a work girl! I was out for lunch and a waitress (Early 20's) came and gave me my water, I noticed she was very shye so I said "how come your so shye" and she said "because I have always been shye". I then said "your a student right, probably an accounting major at _insert local college". She said "WOW how did you know that". I said "simple, your young and well put together and dont seem like a waitress hence student, you are not artsy or extroverted hence would say accounting or business, since you seem very proper and linear I would say "accountant" I also believe you are way to pretty to be a bookworm, more wellrounded hence the college I mentioned would suit you perfectly. She then said "you must be a psychic" I said "no, I just am good at reading people". She then asked me what I did for living so I told her and we talked for about 5 minutes. Then when I got the bill I said "I would ask for your number, but I am not going to because I want you to do me a favour, I want you to hold your head high and talk to at least 5 different people outside of work today, your the prettiest girl in this resteraunt so you should start acting like it. If you complete this task then next time I shall ask for your number, deal? She said deal. Then we shook hands and I paid and left.

Those are my encounters today.
Digging the cold read skills. Keep em coming.
 

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Kenny: Thanks for the props, as for who taught me game; I would say its a combo of experience, willingness to put myself out there, watching what the right types of people do to succeed with women and socially in general and reading \ watching the right material to learn from.

The books I would reccommend most are
-Double Your Dating by David D'angelo
-Executive Charisma
-Ultimate Confidence
-NLP
 
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04-February-2012
The first story of the day occured after my daily 5 kilometer run when I went to the tanning Salon. I chatted up the pretty desk girl who answers the phone and sets people up into their tanning rooms. After 3 minutes of talking she said I could have room one which was right behind her. I said yeah you only gave me that one cause you like loudmouths like me bugging you. She laughed. After my Tan I talked to her again and she asked me how I liked the tan, I just said I will let you know when I start seeing results. Then she said well when would you like to come in next. I told her that I was free Wednesday to which she responded that she did not work on Wednesday. So I just said well as much as I like you I do happen to be working out on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays each week so I would have to tan Wednesdays but not to worry because we could have our next date next tanning date on next Saturday. So she told me that this would be great, so I smiled and said stay pretty and I might even take you out after. She just laughed and I walked away, then I could see her looking at me smiling from the window as I was walking outside.

Before I get to my next story, one concept I think that is VERY important is learning whether or not a girl has an interest or not, how can you tell? Well I actually practice this. For example today I went into the mall today and went to a few department stores. I went up to random worker girls who said "how can I help you" to which I responded "Well I have been looking to meet a pretty girl today, would you be able to help me with that". The looks I get when I say that are priceless! But its awesome because it totally shows me in a controlled environment the tell tale signs a girl gives off when she does not like you on your first impression:
-Abruptness and one word answers
-Fleeting eye contact or no eye contact
-Crossing or folding arms

Its funny because I am actually trying to get rejected when I do this so I know exactly what to look for or not look for when reading girls for the first time.

Now on for my second story....one of the department store girls actually liked me! I went up to her and she said "how can I help you" and I said "Well I am looking to meet a very pretty girl today can you help me with that". The girl laughed and said "sure my name is _insert name). I said great, but I do have a second query, could you help me find a particular book. We both went over to find it and she couldnt so I said "I expected better from you, I thought you would have every book location memorized in this entire chapters bookstore. " She laughed and said "you overestimate me". I put my hand on her back and said "nah, here it is right here". She smiled back at me and then we both went to the checkout. She asked me if I wanted an Irewards card, so I said nah, but I will have your card in case I need someone to find me more books. She laughed and said "I dont have any cards". Then we kept talking and she asked for my email addres for the irewards card and I told her that she only wanted my email so she could stalk me. She looked at me and shook her head and I said ok, well I will make you a deal I will give you my email address if you give me yours. So she said sure, then I told her my email address and she wrote hers down on my receipt.

Now I am finishing up my dinner and am about to go on a dinner date with the library girl from my first story....Ive decided to reschedule my date with the HR girl from work that I had tonight. I do have a three location philosophy though, so dinner is going to be at a nice resteraunt downtown, dessert at a different more relaxed resteraunt and then depending on how the night goes I am thinking either Martini Bar or a private Kareokee room. I shall decide on the fly as I often do.

I will discuss upon my return.

Stay Thirsty My Friends.

-YS
 

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Date last night with library girl went very well.

The best dates are dates that dont even seem like dates and follow a natural progression of having fun, to having even more fun, to having as much fun as you can have with your clothes on, to having more fun than that!
 

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08-February-12
Had my date with the HR girl from work, it did NOT go well. We went to a local bar downtown and were eating, she seemed like she was having fun, laughing and body language were between neutral and semi interested. I then noticed she was looking alot past me and smiling, I casually turned at one point and noticed two guys sitting behind me, much older guys than myself but very well put together and good looking for their age.

At one point I excused myself to go to the washroom, when I returned she was sitting with the two other guys! Actually she was sitting beside one and she seemed like she was really interested in him. I saved face by going up and shaking the two guys hands and said "My name is _insert name" good to meet you. I started talkin to the dude that my date was not talking to for about 5 minutes....then I got tired of this crap and I said it was a pleasure to meet the dude, but I was heading out I then asked my date if she was coming. She smiled and laughed slightly and took a sip of her drink, the guy put his hand on my dates lap and my date said no thank you I am ok.

So pretty much my date got hijacked by another guy, what a crappy deal.

Good thing my previous date with the other girl went really well.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Funny, but tough break. I think it happens to everyone at one time or another if you go on a few dates. I know I was irritated when it happened to me and I didn't even like my date's personality. You handled it like a #bawse.

Can you elaborate on your natural progression of good dates some more? What went well and how can other implement the smoothness?
 

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Dude, stop telling women you've never met before they are cute/pretty (or just in general complementing them). I see this mistake made too often. Those words give them a lot of power. You tell her she's pretty, and she hears from you "oh beautiful angel you are so worthy of my attention; please honor me with yours." And as you can probably guess, that isn't the strongest opening in the world. Basically, there's an undertone of neediness to it. If you have to use the word pretty in a sentence, it should be "I'm pretty."
 

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You have good social/people skills, but more information of actual dates will be good.
 

Young Stallion

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Agreed, I do have a habit of complimenting people during my interactions.

Just about to go on a gym / workout date with library girl from some of my stories...who I have been seeing ALOT of lately.

Probably wont be on for the rest of the night, but happy hunting to everyone.
 

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What sighsigh said is partly true. I think there's no reason to completely take out complimenting as your openers. Just make sure they're genuine and sincere, people can feel it. Have you ever felt that gut feeling that someone is complimenting you for real?

Such compliments have very little effect later on if a frame of indifference is mantained when she pulls BS.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Interesting Konada, I just read a chapter in the book "Winning Friends and Influencing People" by Dale Carnegie and he even says that you should never compliment or flatter people because it comes off as cheap and is never percieved how you want it to be percieved. Very similar to your sentiments in your post.

In other news....I didnt get out of bed from 9:00pm last night untill about 5:00pm tonight, I think Library girl now lives in my bed and sporradically different places in my condo.
 

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wow what a f-ing biitch. Girl is like school in the summer... no class.

This happens all the time at bars, but on a date and with some random dudes? wtf? Honestly I would be so thrown off by this and would find myself in one of those few moments where i have nothing to say - i have a big mouth.

I want to provide a witty response for you to say next time you see her but the best i can do is the school in summer joke sry :(

Bummer dude, atleast you have a sexy librarian living in your bed
 

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About the bad date with the HR girl: It wasnt even like they were at our table....she had stood up and walked over to their table and was sitting there with them!

As for library girl: She is actually an articling law student and will be taking her bar exams this year I believe. Very tiny girl 5'2 and weighs about 105 lbs.

I tell you, sex is a much different ball game with a girl that size than a girl who is 5'5 to 5'7 and weighing 120-140 lbs.

I am a 5'7 and 145 lbs man.
 
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