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Kirro said:
My friend, as long as you have this bullsh!t mindset that you need a woman to make you complete the more miserable & disappointed you are going to be.
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Kirro,we've been trying and trying and trying and trying to get Max to see this,but to no avail.


His mind is closed off to anything and everything that anyone says that doesn't involve him having a female present. He just flat out REFUSES to believe that happiness or contentment can be achieved apart from a woman,which causes a catch-22 situation.




He wants a woman so he can be happy,but women are attracted to men who are ALREADY happy,not who sit around waiting for them to come along to bring some sort of meaning to their lives.




But he has his mind made up,so FOR HIM,this is how it'll be.



I used to think like that a looong time ago,but with me,I eventually got to the point where I was just sick and tired of failing. So I went out and did some research,and found out that 95% of the problems I had with women were really just problems within myself,and the other 5% were just misunderstanding I had about women.




When I began to get myself straightened out,I did a LOT BETTER with girls,even with still having the 5% misunderstanding of how women worked.



I just got to the point where I didn't care anymore. So I came to a decision...


I decided that I was going to throw out everything I thought I knew about girls,and go to the complete extreme in the other direction.


So to me....


up was down
left was right
good was bad

If the answer was 5,I went ALL THE WAY past zero to -5.



If there were something I thought would make a girl like me,I THREW IT OUT,and if there was something I thought would make a girl angry or upset with me,then that's what I'd say to her.


The results were SHOCKING.




I remember one time I approached a girl and asked her out,and she told me she had a boyfriend. Here's how I responded.....




me:Hey,so like umm...so when are we going out?

her:I have a boyfriend.

me:I didn't ask you if you had a boyfriend,I asked you when are WE going out.

her:Well....I'm going to (name of a club) tonight.




I was shocked....bewitched,bewildered,freakin' DUMBFOUNDED.



And this all happened because I was sick and tired of being sick and tired of failing,and just decided to ditch my usual way of thinking and try something new.



I didn't have any choice. I didn't have this forum to inform or avise me,all I had was myself. It's amazing what you can discover when you just open your mind to other ideas and suggestions.
 

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Igetit! said:
+1 rep.


Kirro,we've been trying and trying and trying and trying to get Max to see this,but to no avail.


His mind is closed off to anything and everything that anyone says that doesn't involve him having a female present. He just flat out REFUSES to believe that happiness or contentment can be achieved apart from a woman,which causes a catch-22 situation.




He wants a woman so he can be happy,but women are attracted to men who are ALREADY happy,not who sit around waiting for them to come along to bring some sort of meaning to their lives.




But he has his mind made up,so FOR HIM,this is how it'll be.



I used to think like that a looong time ago,but with me,I eventually got to the point where I was just sick and tired of failing. So I went out and did some research,and found out that 95% of the problems I had with women were really just problems within myself,and the other 5% were just misunderstanding I had about women.




When I began to get myself straightened out,I did a LOT BETTER with girls,even with still having the 5% misunderstanding of how women worked.



I just got to the point where I didn't care anymore. So I came to a decision...


I decided that I was going to throw out everything I thought I knew about girls,and go to the complete extreme in the other direction.


So to me....


up was down
left was right
good was bad

If the answer was 5,I went ALL THE WAY past zero to -5.



If there were something I thought would make a girl like me,I THREW IT OUT,and if there was something I thought would make a girl angry or upset with me,then that's what I'd say to her.


The results were SHOCKING.




I remember one time I approached a girl and asked her out,and she told me she had a boyfriend. Here's how I responded.....




me:Hey,so like umm...so when are we going out?

her:I have a boyfriend.

me:I didn't ask you if you had a boyfriend,I asked you when are WE going out.

her:Well....I'm going to (name of a club) tonight.




I was shocked....bewitched,bewildered,freakin' DUMBFOUNDED.



And this all happened because I was sick and tired of being sick and tired of failing,and just decided to ditch my usual way of thinking and try something new.



I didn't have any choice. I didn't have this forum to inform or avise me,all I had was myself. It's amazing what you can discover when you just open your mind to other ideas and suggestions.
Thanks for the rep man. & if Max is one of those lost sheep then that's his a$$ I have nothing more to say.

& I can totally understand where you're coming from about women.

I'm only a lad compared to most of you but I'm glad I've taken the red pill early, hell I'm just going 20 this year.

It was shocking for me to realize that by being myself(rude, aggressive, ****y) that I would get the best results from women.

& whenever I truly didn't need a girl it would make it so easy to get laid.

A wise man once said, "if you wish to get the truth from women, flip everything you think you know on its ass & there's the truth":D
 

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THE question asked "How do we become sucessful?" is MANKINDS DESTINY. it is your Personal Legend (from the Alchemist, Pauhlo Cohelo), your true purpose in life..

And i truly say to you, that this is the destiny of ALL MEN.
your destiny is to be THE VERY BEST YOU CAN, TO TRY TO BE PERFECT. not perfect in the conventional sense of having no faults (as Pook so swiftly denounced it), but perfect in being TALENTED IN ALL LEVELS

the levels are BODY MIND and SPIRIT

lets take an example, ME

BODY
age: 19.5
170cm height (5 foot 7)
weight: 68kg, 148 lbs
12% BF
hazel eyes, short spiky hair, lean and muscular build, tomorrow ill paste a profile pix soyou can see me....
sports: 2nd Dan black belt Tae Kwon Do, soccer midfielder, pointguard - basketball, runningback -football, badminton, lacrosse, archery, cross-country, gymnasium and currently, swimming at school not the team

MIND
all studies: regaular primary and secondary school in the USA
technical degree in business (High School)
Industrial Physcis Engineering at ITESM (you can bet the girls say wow, just in case ur confused, we are the Edisons of the world, Physicists who Apply the vast knowledge to practical inventions) so this is an intelelctual challenge for me....

Reading (10-20 books yearly, ALL topics, current read, Fantasia, by Michael Ende, about a fat wuss who saves Fantasia)
Drawing (like old Fingz, my idealization of woman, a western-eastern manga mix)
MUSIC: playing the trumpet since 5th grade... been in marching band, jazz and now music ensemble that gave me a 80% PURE scholarship in ITESM, wiki it, its the most expensive private school in Mexico (upper class pvssy)
NATURE LOVER, Space, philosophy
Cooking, especially desserts
languages: spanish, english, french
loves to learn new things
Hyperactive
fast reasoning (no not nerdy math, it applies even to biz classes)
divergent mind (dreamer, thinker)
AMBITOUS
Emplyment: in progression, McD´s, English Tutor, Cust service specialist for american company (payed in USD see how i go up?)
ive decided for it to be my last employed job. i will create my own biz.

SPIRIT
self perception: A MAN WHO WILL HAVE HIS NAME DOWN IN THE ANNALS OF HISTORY
AMBITIONS AND DREAMS:
Studies: to get into either MIT, Stanford, CalTEc, or Cambridge lab DOCTORATE LEVEL
-Nobel Prize in Physics
-build my own car, solar powered
-find chemical reactions that consume Co2 (global warming fix) ah i found it potassium superoxide!
-new sources of generating work (no, not new sources of energy, new ways to take advantage of energy) no windmill paradigm, look at nuclear generators, giving sooo much enery, just to boil water and turn a measly turbine! might as well burn coal (no wonder we do...) that the job of an physsicis engineeer!
-create my own exoskeleton (Iron Man suit) made of a composite ally Mohs scale of 10 (diamond hard)
-create a time machine, and teletransporter (its space-time people)
-become the richest man in the world, by transforming NYC landfill into 1 trillion tons of pure gold (atomic rearrangement, quantum physics says its possible)
-through the same process create a perpetual economy, making Mex a first world country no longer dependent on the US and so ending the economic breakdown

continued: true inner game (religion)....
 

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At Your Own Discretion To Read, Loooong

LAST TIME ILL POST THIS, ITS A PERSONAL READ...no more spamming my religion here and i dont fvcking care what you think

RELIGION my fatih is the URANTIA BOOK, urantia being the celestial name of our planet earth... i fell it was a lil off topic, but hell SO MANY OF YOU LACK CONFIDENCE, A TRUE LIGHT THAT MOTIVATES YOU

I The Universal Father is the God of all creation, the First Source and Center of all things and beings. First think of God as a creator, then as a controller, and lastly as an infinite upholder. The truth about the Universal Father had begun to dawn upon mankind when the prophet said: “You, God, are alone; there is none beside you. You have created the heaven and the heaven of heavens, with all their hosts; you preserve and control them. By the Sons of God were the universes made. The Creator covers himself with light as with a garment and stretches out the heavens as a curtain.” Only the concept of the Universal Father — one God in the place of many gods — enabled mortal man to comprehend the Father as divine creator and infinite controller.

The myriads of planetary systems were all made to be eventually inhabited by many different types of intelligent creatures, beings who could know God, receive the divine affection, and love him in return. The universe of universes is the work of God and the dwelling place of his diverse creatures. “God created the heavens and formed the earth; he established the universe and created this world not in vain; he formed it to be inhabited.” (are we alone? NO!)

The enlightened worlds all recognize and worship the Universal Father, the eternal maker and infinite upholder of all creation. The will creatures of universe upon universe have embarked upon the long, long Paradise journey, the fascinating struggle of the eternal adventure of attaining God the Father. The transcendent goal of the children of time is to find the eternal God, to comprehend the divine nature, to recognize the Universal Father. God-knowing creatures have only one supreme ambition, just one consuming desire, and that is to become, as they are in their spheres, like him as he is in his Paradise perfection of personality and in his universal sphere of righteous supremacy. From the Universal Father who inhabits eternity there has gone forth the supreme mandate, “Be you perfect, even as I am perfect.” In love and mercy the messengers of Paradise have carried this divine exhortation down through the ages and out through the universes, even to such lowly animal-origin creatures as the human races of Urantia.

This magnificent and universal injunction to strive for the attainment of the perfection of divinity is the first duty, and should be the highest ambition, of all the struggling creature creation of the God of perfection. This possibility of the attainment of divine perfection is the final and certain destiny of all man’s eternal spiritual progress.

Urantia mortals can hardly hope to be perfect in the infinite sense, but it is entirely possible for human beings, starting out as they do on this planet, to attain the supernal and divine goal which the infinite God has set for mortal man; and when they do achieve this destiny, they will, in all that pertains to self-realization and mind attainment, be just as replete in their sphere of divine perfection as God himself is in his sphere of infinity and eternity. Such perfection may not be universal in the material sense, unlimited in intellectual grasp, or final in spiritual experience, but it is final and complete in all finite aspects of divinity of will, perfection of personality motivation, and God-consciousness.

This is the true meaning of that divine command, “Be you perfect, even as I am perfect,” which ever urges mortal man onward and beckons him inward in that long and fascinating struggle for the attainment of higher and higher levels of spiritual values and true universe meanings. This sublime search for the God of universes is the supreme adventure of the inhabitants of all the worlds of time and space.

2. The Reality of God
The actuality of the existence of God is demonstrated in human experience by the indwelling of the divine presence, the spirit Monitor sent from Paradise to live in the mortal mind of man and there to assist in evolving the immortal soul of eternal survival. The presence of this divine Adjuster in the human mind is disclosed by three experiential phenomena: (its the INNER VOICE, the GUT, that lil fella who is always right)

The intellectual capacity for knowing God — God-consciousness.

The spiritual urge to find God — God-seeking.

The personality craving to be like God — the wholehearted desire to do the Father’s will.

The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to religion, and indispensable to any hope of personality survival.(resurrection)

Those who know God have experienced the fact of his presence; such God-knowing mortals hold in their personal experience the only positive proof of the existence of the living God which one human being can offer to another. The existence of God is utterly beyond all possibility of demonstration except for the contact between the God-consciousness of the human mind and the God-presence of the Thought Adjuster that indwells the mortal intellect and is bestowed upon man as the free gift of the Universal Father. (made in gods image anyone?)

Man is spiritually indwelt by a surviving Thought Adjuster. If such a human mind is sincerely and spiritually motivated, if such a human soul desires to know God and become like him, honestly wants to do the Father’s will, there exists no negative influence of mortal deprivation nor positive power of possible interference which can prevent such a divinely motivated soul from securely ascending to the portals of Paradise.

The Father desires all his creatures to be in personal communion with him. He has on Paradise a place to receive all those whose survival status and spiritual nature make possible such attainment. Therefore settle in your philosophy now and forever: To each of you and to all of us, God is approachable, the Father is attainable, the way is open; the forces of divine love and the ways and means of divine administration are all interlocked in an effort to facilitate the advancement of every worthy intelligence of every universe to the Paradise presence of the Universal Father.

The fact that vast time is involved in the attainment of God makes the presence and personality of the Infinite none the less real. Your ascension is a part of the circuit of the seven superuniverses, and though you swing around it countless times, you may expect, in spirit and in status, to be ever swinging inward. You can depend upon being translated from sphere to sphere, from the outer circuits ever nearer the inner center, and some day, doubt not, you shall stand in the divine and central presence and see him, figuratively speaking, face to face. It is a question of the attainment of actual and literal spiritual levels; and these spiritual levels are attainable by any being who has been indwelt by a Mystery Monitor, and who has subsequently eternally fused with that Thought Adjuster.

The Father is not in spiritual hiding, but so many of his creatures have hidden themselves away in the mists of their own willful decisions and for the time being have separated themselves from the communion of his spirit and the spirit of his Son by the choosing of their own perverse ways and by the indulgence of the self-assertiveness of their intolerant minds and unspiritual natures.

Mortal man may draw near God and may repeatedly forsake the divine will so long as the power of choice remains. (confused? LOVE, in teh sense of being the disinterested regard towrds others) Man’s final doom is not sealed until he has lost the power to choose the Father’s will. There is never a closure of the Father’s heart to the need and the petition of his children. Only do his offspring close their hearts forever to the Father’s drawing power when they finally and forever lose the desire to do his divine will — to know him and to be like him. Likewise is man’s eternal destiny assured when Adjuster fusion proclaims to the universe that such an ascender has made the final and irrevocable choice to live the Father’s will.

The great God makes direct contact with mortal man and gives a part of his infinite and eternal and incomprehensible self to live and dwell within him. God has embarked upon the eternal adventure with man. If you yield to the leadings of the spiritual forces in you and around you, you cannot fail to attain the high destiny established by a loving God as the universe goal of his ascendant creatures from the evolutionary worlds of space.

It is because of this God fragment that indwells you that you can hope, as you progress in harmonizing with the Adjuster’s spiritual leadings, more fully to discern the presence and transforming power of those other spiritual influences that surround you and impinge upon you but do not function as an integral part of you. The fact that you are not intellectually conscious of close and intimate contact with the indwelling Adjuster does not in the least disprove such an exalted experience. The proof of fraternity with the divine Adjuster consists wholly in the nature and extent of the fruits of the spirit which are yielded in the life experience of the individual believer. “By their fruits you shall know them.”
 

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I'm in the Mood said:
I really like this. This is like the mission statement of SoSuave and the heart of becoming a Don Juan.
Thanks, but that's not the mission statement of SS. The site was created so that a bunch of guys could share tips on how to pick up girls. That's its mission.

However, the top DJs from way back then all found that there's a lot more to life than women and once they'd had enough fun, they all departed SS in various directions.

The top 1% of men is a very slim number. I think us dedicated men would benefit more from setting a long term goal for reaching the top 25-10%. It's incredibly hard to determine what qualities these top men have solely based on speculation though.
The top 1% is a figure of speech.

That brings me to what I don't like about this post.

Jitterbug, how do you become one of these "top men?" You offer some insight on why self improvement is a good path, but I could just blindly start working on my appearance and still get no women.

Jitterbug, can you offer any insight on what makes a "top man," and how us Sosuave members could find our own path in that direction?

I ask you this because, rewiring your beliefs, attitudes and personality is not easy! What could you tell us about your own progress and how you got to where you are today?
The point of my post was to tell guys that unless you're at the very top, it will always appear that women are going for some guy who's not you - although it is actually not true - so don't go crazy about it.

I've been rejected by girls who go for guys who are better than me, the same or even objectively worse in every way. I've also been on the other side and swooped girls from guys who are better or worse than me.

The difference between me and the various whiny guys here on SS is that when I don't get the girls, I don't overthink it and come on here to b!tch about it then blame it on something I can't control. It's not a big deal when you don't or do get a girl.

No I'm not a top 1% guy, although some of my friends are, so I know what it's like up there. I'm no rockstar or Don Juan but I get enough women, I've spent the last month turning down women, who, other than sex, don't add any value to my life. I've got a long history of this just like any guy who's been at SS for a while and learned a thing or two, but this thread isn't about me.

As for why self improvement is a good path...

Every guy knows what's lacking in his overall package: social status, wealth, looks, game etc. Everything can be improved. Now it's true that some guy not as good looking as you may still swoop plenty of girls, but that's his business, not yours to worry about (this is the point of my post, again - there's always someone else NOT you that girls go for). You go work on your appearance, YOU will see improvements to YOUR own game with women. It is a grave mistake to not work on yourself, because another guy happens to get some women you desire without the looks, or riches, or whatever that is that you're after for yourself.

Every time I make a significant improvement to one aspect of my game, I become more confident and happier with myself, and my success with women increases. Usually I start attracting a higher caliber of women.

However, that's not the best part of self improvement. The best part, as many SS DJs of old time all found out, is that there are many many more great things about life waiting for you to explore, than women.

This isn't anything new, it's been said here a thousand times. You can all sit here and read it and won't get it. It's not until you've pursued something (outside of getting into women's panties) with passion that you'll understand it. And funnily enough, you'll attract plenty of women then.

Nobody can teach you how to become a top guy. You do it yourself. This forum cannot teach you much, beyond some Wom@nese and the feminine dark side you must protect yourself from. What stand in your way are your own excuses.

If my long-winded post doesn't make sense to you, then try to remember this. Every time you wonder why you did not get some particular girl, or aren't getting any woman in general, just ask yourself: is there anything better I can do with my life at this very moment? If you can't think of any, you're in trouble. Fix it, and the rest will fall into place.
 

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DjVita said:
THE question asked "How do we become sucessful?" is MANKINDS DESTINY. it is your Personal Legend (from the Alchemist, Pauhlo Cohelo), your true purpose in life..
Actually the whole answer to this post is what this guy said...

Alchemist, Paulo Coelho!

I recommend to EVERYONE who hasn't read it yet to go and buy it! It's the best book to read for setting your goals and actually achieve them! When Coelho said " If you really want something then the whole universe conspires to help you" he meant, that when you actually GO for your goals everything takes it's course and fall into place like a puzzle!


The bad thing is that people nowdays have desires and no goals... When someone understand the difference, he can make a new start and see what he's really gonna chase...
 
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