"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"You should give average girls a chance."

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I never really understood the phrase "You should give average girls a chance." Why is the world pressuring me to give average girls a free ticket? Average guys don't ever get a chance with women.

In the immortal words of Dr Kelso Licensed Hetero, "Slaggie, if you want to get people's attention, you've got to get more aggressive or more attractive. Pick one."
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Simple, average girls are still girls and by default they have pussies. Don't tell me that having sex with an average girl is worse than not having sex.
 

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Looks arent everything. Sure, it is nice to have a hot girlfriend. But, average girls are great too. To me looks do matter in a woman but, not quite the top. She has to have a good personality, fun to hang out with, and natural to her woman nature.
 

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I would prefer to date a girl who is a 6 with looks but 9 in personality than 9 in looks and 6 in personality. Hard to describe why but I just find who the girl is more attractive.
 

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Why not give them a chance? One night is a chance, right? :p
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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SharinganUser said:
I never really understood the phrase "You should give average girls a chance." Why is the world pressuring me to give average girls a free ticket? Average guys don't ever get a chance with women.

In the immortal words of Dr Kelso Licensed Hetero, "Slaggie, if you want to get people's attention, you've got to get more aggressive or more attractive. Pick one."
The world is pressuring you? hmm. maybe they are trying to tell you something. Anwser this..what do you have right now? Do you have a bunch of 9's and 10s your spinning plates on? Do you have absolutely nothing? Maybe an average girl is what you need to get started if you have nothing going.

Nothing wrong with average girls. Most guys on here are average looking at best so they shouldn't be too picky. Especially to get started. Sometimes you need a starter girl that you are not intimidated by to get your feet wet and see how the game/a relationship works all the way through. Plus it gives you confidence knowing that someone wants you. If one wants you then more do. Also its a good place to start branch swinging. I for one recommend and average or less than average "starter girl" .

For the virgins here and those with little to no relationship experience, average girls is what they should be shooting for to get their feet wet. But if they can pull a 9 or 10 they should go for that too. Get a wide range of experiences...try it and learn for yourself.
 

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The only reason I am not getting any right now is because I am living in near total seclusion. The only women around here are fat, frumpy losers. But that is besides the point, I am ok with living alone right now and not getting any right now because in about a month, I'll be on the road again and getting my pick of HB 9's.

I honestly want a girl that is 9 in looks and 9 in personality. Maybe that girl doesn't exist, but I will never settle for a girl.


I know this is hard to believe, but me and a few of my friends that I've talked to agree, if you sleep with a girl you aren't attracted to, afterward you feel dirty, like a *****.

Edit: I think just for ****s and giggles whenever I get a chance, I'll give women the same crappy advice they've been giving us.
 

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SharinganUser said:
I know this is hard to believe, but me and a few of my friends that I've talked to agree, if you sleep with a girl you aren't attracted to, afterward you feel dirty, like a *****.
Average does not mean fat and frumpy. Average doesn't mean unattractive. Nobody said go do a fugy. You mean you've never seen a cute average girl you were attracted to?
 

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I hate that

If a girl has average looks, she expects to (without becoming more aggressive/outgoing) be pursued like she's a 9 or a 10? What a crock!

Again, 'average' is relative (I'm big into unconventional beauty) but come on.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Average is indeed in the eye of the beholder. There are those hollywood type girls that most guys would consider 10's, which I consider maybe 8's, or even such as Pam Anderson, who USED to be hot, but these days isn't even average to me. Then there are the ones that are more natural beauty that I consider HOT.

Sure, what guy DOESN'T want a 9 in looks and a 9 in personality, but just as with that being a RARE thing to be found in a GUY (it's true and you know it), it's also a rare thing to be found in a girl.

With that said, sometimes the 10's give worse sex than a 7 or 8 will, because the 10 figures she can get by on her looks alone and keep you, whereas the 7 or 8 figures she needs to do extra to keep you, so she works harder to satisfy you.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Average does not mean fat and frumpy. Average doesn't mean unattractive. Nobody said go do a fugy. You mean you've never seen a cute average girl you were attracted to?
You've obviously never been to my home town.
 

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Average girls can be useful target practice, but they get no free pass from me; I treat them as they are. Until the day there are no more above average girls left, they don't make the grade for anything other than "lab rat" or "platonic friend" status.
The Great Catch does not settle for stale leftovers.
 

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SharinganUser said:
You've obviously never been to my home town.
You're either posting in the wrong forum (right forum being high school forum), or you don't realize larger cities are adjacent to your small one. (I live in Arkansas and even we have a large city here, aka Little Rock).

If the former, just be patient- you'll graduate soon and can move to a bigger city. If the latter, did you ever consider moving or driving to the big city near you on your day off? :confused:

There's not a big city in America that doesn't have hotties.

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More on point, I am friends with this one guy who needed to for years to give "average girls" a chance. This was because he was about 4'10", and a "4" on a looks scale. This guy, i kid you not, would hit on only 8's or better. I had to give him credit for trying, but he crashed and burned over and over. I had to witness this a couple times once and I felt so bad for him.

To my surprise, he eventually ended up marrying a rather cute looking woman! Guess persistence paid off!
 

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Warrior74 said:
Average does not mean fat and frumpy.
The average American woman is 5'4" and 164 pounds. That's a fattie.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Jitterbug said:
The average American woman is 5'4" and 164 pounds. That's a fattie.
They are not all like that, I assure you. In fact, both women I'm involved with are built better than that.

What are Aussie women like, if they aren't built this way?
 

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Those two of yours aren't average then. The stats I got are from your researchers. You can search Google for the height & weight of the average American woman.

Average Aussie women? They're a little better, but not much. Australia is 2nd, just behind America in the league of the fattest nations.
 

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No, these two definitely aren't average, lol.

Fattest nations, eh? Well, I believe America would be considered the fattest, considering how most people here eat, but fattest nations? I wonder where Europe ranks in that? lol
 

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Yeah that 164lb and 5'4 is the true average weight/height of women.

Do not believe the media or what pua gurus tell you that you are gonna get a 6ft tall hot blonde super model. Only 1% of guys are ever gonna do that and chances are, it ain't you if you are reading online how to get laid.

So like the original poster said, go for some girls who are actually going to like you back and be interested in you.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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