You must break through the fog of lies thats been created around you

[rakishness]

"Thus one's victories in battle cannot be repeated -- they take their form in response to inexhaustibly changing circumstances." -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Stop listening to the dating "gurus". Stop reading the dj bible. You know why? Because we are ALL different. All of us have different personalities and different circumstances...different everything.
Theres only a FEW things that affect us all. Like...we all have to eat...we all have to sleep...etc.

For success with women there is ONE thing that is important for ALL OF US. That is....WE MUST APPEAR VALUABLE. All the confidence in the world wont matter...all the sexual state,kino, C&F...wont matter. She MUST VALUE YOU. Period.. full stop.

Every time you were rejected in the past it was because at that MOMENT...she didn't value you. It had nothing to do with your inner thoughts or your body language. Or if you didn't neg fast enough. NONE OF IT MATTERED. Her PERCEIVED VALUE of you DID.

Am I saying that all is lost...OF COURSE NOT. Find ways to improve your VALUE. Start....NOW

 

[Fenderules]

now!

at least im on my way...... no fog anymore

 

[Obsidian]

Stop listening to the dating "gurus".

the moment someone says something like this, you may as well stop listening to their thread.

I agree that VALUE is important, but come on, man...Don't demean the DJ Bible.

 

[rakishness]

If you still want to read the dj bible...by all means. But we all have to remember that what works for one person may not work for another. Some guys are good at bold approaches...while others are more cunning and better at indirect approaches.

My advice is to keep your mind fluid. Just adapt to the circumstances. Like water.

"Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the times."
Niccolo Machiavelli

 

[chancer]

Hopefully most of you know to take what you learn from and leave the rest. Value is important, but i wouldn't center it around why the girl is interested. If you know and think you're valuable, the girl will feel the same. You just need to get out and talk to these girls. Experience is key.

 

[Obsidian]

also, the term "value" is pretty general. You can derive value from a lot of sources:

1) power
2) confidence
3) money
4) friends/sociability
5) looks [plz don't stone me!]
6) common interests
7) humor
8) good sexual technique

etc

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...
5) looks [plz don't stone me!]
...

:trouble: Don't make me hurt you... :trouble:

 

[dot]

yea value is actually from a lotta different things. i dont fully understand it really