You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Outside of pleasure, kids and material gain.. what other reason is there for a woman to have sex? I'd really like to know.Down Low said:I must disagree here. Women have sex for many reasons, probably the least is orgasm. For sure, every woman's primary goal is to go through life on her back. All women are wh0res. However, they have sex for more reasons than just orgasm or to further their wh0re careers. There have been many threads on it, just not so much lately.
What point are you trying to make here? That some men are nice and still manage to get p*ssy from attractive women.. plus get married?Trump said:Perhaps, but I've treated girls slept with like so and it's backfired.
I think people are getting confused with a being a jerk to get girls with being able to protect her. Anyone can be a jerk, but it's hard to put a price on knowing how to play the game and being confident.
For people who say marriage is against the man, worthless, pointless, she will kill you, she will take all your money and sleep with others, OK, but how are all your friends and coworkers getting married and having kids? Do they know the game that much better than you and are that much smarter? Don't think many would admit that.
Also, it's way to protect yourself. If you don't get married, you can use the excuse above. If you do get married, you can say it's because the girl fell so in love with your charms that you had no choice but to give in.
Good question.Danger said:I'm not saying I'm a bad-boy, but I am saying that women often perceive me as high value. Which is ultimately what we are talking about.
See the problem here is that all men have a different perspective based on their past experience with women, and the value that women place upon them.
Understood.
Or to put it more ssuccinctly.....The higher your value, the sluttier women become.
That is signature quote worthy.
Consider a scale of 1-10, 1 being the lowest value and 10 being the highest value. The farther up the scale you are, the more women throw themselves at you (thus the perception of being slutty). The lower you are on the scale, the fewer numbers of women throw themselves at you (thus the perception of there being more quality girls out there).
In other words, women will throw themselves at the 9 and 10's, but make the 4's and 5's wait. The perception created of course is that the male 4's and 5's think that only some girls are slutty and that many don't give it up easy. But the high value men know better. They have been around the block and experienced Hypergamy for what it is. The girl who makes a 5 wait will give it up quickly to the high value 9. So this now creates a dichotomy amongst men in their ability to identify sluts.
Yes the principle is solid. Although a 4 or 5 guy isn't technically on the map lol. A 6 guy with game can get occassional a$s even if he has to wait. But yes, generally, you are spot on.
Here you have an ARMY of men who insist said girl isn't a slut, but the minority of 9s and 10s all agree that she is. Who do you believe?
This is why I often state that to truly know women, you have to walk both sides of the scale, being low value and being high value. Thus the problem for higher value men who have discovered this about women, the question then becomes, how do we determine what is a "quality girl"?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I know a lot of women like to bad mouth or complain about their husbands. But I don't see any evidence to suggest that sociopaths get more respect.PlayHer Man said:I didn't say you have to be a borderline sociopath to get p*ssy, a hot girlfriend or a hot wife. I said you have to be a borderline sociopath to get RESPECT.
Well, I agree that women will give it up readily to the right guy. That just goes along with high interest. I don't see that as being "slvtty" though. Slvtty behavior is defined by how they deal with other men. If they are "gaming" multiple men and giving it up to numerous men, that is slvtty behavior. I've always thought it was fairly easy to identify these girls, you just have to observe them a bit - especially when they are around men, and especially when they think you're not looking.Danger said:In other words, women will throw themselves at the 9 and 10's, but make the 4's and 5's wait. The perception created of course is that the male 4's and 5's think that only some girls are slutty and that many don't give it up easy. But the high value men know better.
Quality has always been, and will always be, determined by a girl's suitability for marriage. Does she menstruate yet? Is she still a virgin? Are her breasts and hips large enough to promise good performance in child rearing? Or too large (does she eat too much)? Does she obey her father? How well does she cook, clean, and care for children? Does she remain silent until addressed, and then speak discretely? Does she like finery?Danger said:Here you have an ARMY of men who insist said girl isn't a slut, but the minority of 9s and 10s all agree that she is. Who do you believe?
This is why I often state that to truly know women, you have to walk both sides of the scale, being low value and being high value. Thus the problem for higher value men who have discovered this about women, the question then becomes, how do we determine what is a "quality girl"?
Basically she's chewing off the hand that feeds.Burroughs said:The funny thing is the 'provider' role isn't a bad one PROVIDED YOU GET TO OWN THE WOMAN AFTER MARRIAGE LIKE 2 MILLION YEARS OF HUMAN HISTORY.
She is your property...no rights...you provide her food and shelter she provides you puzzy and children
in 2013 a woman marries a provider....SHE OWNS YOU!. her puzzy is hers and her children belong to her and the STATE
now what kind of faggot bait and switch is that?!
and why do so few men get this??????
...until its waaaayyy too late
like this man http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195329
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
zekko said:I've always thought of them as a guy probably too rebellious to hold down a job, and if he ever does get a wife or girlfriend he will cheat on her.
A bad boys is a man that uses women as jizz-dumpsters and nothing more. Simple as that. He deals with women on his own terms rather than giving into whatever society "expects" him to do in a relationship.zekko said:I don't think anyone has the slightest idea what a bad boy really is. Spackler says "leader in his field of interest"? Wtf? Why would you call such a person a "bad boy"? Guys define a bad boy as whatever is useful at the time to make whatever point they are trying to make.
As far as women go, I think they just define bad boy as any good looking muscular guy in a white t-shirt.
I've always thought of them as a guy probably too rebellious to hold down a job, and if he ever does get a wife or girlfriend he will cheat on her.
This is why I state modern man is 100% faggotized moronCrazystarf said:Basically she's chewing off the hand that feeds.
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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You mean how we were raised when we were younger? If that's the case, yes I agree. We had this system of morality, etiquette and manners rammed down our throats a lot by our elders in school, making us feel bad about our own desires rather than focus on education. I grew afraid of fighting that system, learning to my frustation that many of those things are farcical and doesn't get you the girl.Who Dares Win said:Lets be honest fellas, none of us is really a nice guy, we have been either because we were afraid of the punishment for not being such or because we tough that such behaviour would have grant us some benefit.
You have a cool dad. Mine did the same when I was your age. We even went to a t!ttie joint, he didn't partake, but I did. We'd go to bars together, I was almost thru university, and he'd chat up waitresses and just have em eating outta his hand, it IS a different generation where women were treated nicely, waitress or non-waitress (just random woman), and they returned the favor and let you speak on and on so long as you had class in your conversation. Try to treat em "nice" now, heh, they almost all hate their job and look at the cellphone every chance they can get, even On the job. There are still good young women though that are not all wrapped up in the latest "fashion," few and far between though that can recognize shown class in conversation.Smok1nAce said:yesterday i went to the fair with my dad. we both got hit on multiple times, my dad is "over the hill" and im 22. my dad would talk to the women and i could clearly sniff out an AW when i see one. i kept signaling him to cut it short and move on, but his reply was "oh see just being nice", You cant just see the generational gap between us.
a little later in the night we sat down to grab something to eat and the table next to us was 30 year old men doing obviously obnoxious downright idiotic things to impress the women. me and my dad jus stayed in aww at them, we could see a couple of them glance over at us to for a sign of acceptance (or some sh!t). While the women they where with kept egging them on.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.