"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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so explain some of your techniques for getting physical with a girl.

SITUATION #1: after your first date (dinner) you bring a chick back to your place. she's sitting on the other side of the livingroom, you're on the couch. the conversation's going well but you want to get her next to you and heat things up a bit. what now?

SITUATION #2: you're doing homework with a girl you've known for awhile. although you know that she finds you attractive, and she made out with you on one occasion, you've never pursued it and seem to be settled into the friend zone. now you're cuddled up and you want to go for the kiss again. what's a smooth way to initiate?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I would absolutely love some responses for these two situations as well, as escalating seems to be one of my primary problems.
 

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bengboy said:
so explain some of your techniques for getting physical with a girl.

SITUATION #1: after your first date (dinner) you bring a chick back to your place. she's sitting on the other side of the livingroom, you're on the couch. the conversation's going well but you want to get her next to you and heat things up a bit. what now?
I'd kino, tease, and then find the right moment to kiss.

SITUATION #2: you're doing homework with a girl you've known for awhile. although you know that she finds you attractive, and she made out with you on one occasion, you've never pursued it and seem to be settled into the friend zone. now you're cuddled up and you want to go for the kiss again. what's a smooth way to initiate?
I'd kino, tease, and then find the right moment to kiss.
 

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that's not specific enough. how do you get her close enough to kino if she's sitting on the other side of the room? and if you invite her to come sit on the couch and she says "no thanks I'm fine", how do you proceed?
 

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You just kiss them man. Put your hand at the back of her head, grab her hair lightly, and kiss her.

I've read a lot of techniques and patterns on 'making the first move' and they're all BS in my opinion. Th trick is to know when she's into you and know when she's gonna reciprocate.

I'd say with the last 30 or so girls I made out with I dodn't say anything 'smooth' beforehand, I just did it. And I didn't et rejected once, seriously.

Girls like confidence and boldness. Thats all you need when it comes to making a move.

PS: On the first one specifically, I would just tell her to sit next to me. If she's into you (which she probably is considering she went out with you) she will comply.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SITUATION #1: after your first date (dinner) you bring a chick back to your place. she's sitting on the other side of the livingroom, you're on the couch. the conversation's going well but you want to get her next to you and heat things up a bit. what now?
Get up go to the washroom, when you come out set next to her. If she get's up and walks to the washroom when she is walking back hopefully by you to sit across the room, grab her by the hand and pull her down or while you have her hand get up and start making out with her.

SITUATION #2: you're doing homework with a girl you've known for awhile. although you know that she finds you attractive, and she made out with you on one occasion, you've never pursued it and seem to be settled into the friend zone. now you're cuddled up and you want to go for the kiss again. what's a smooth way to initiate?
Heavy Eye contact, either she will eye contact back which is queue or she will ask why are you looking at me like that? Be like I just remembered us making out before your lips were so soft...
 

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bengboy said:
so explain some of your techniques for getting physical with a girl.

SITUATION #1: after your first date (dinner) you bring a chick back to your place. she's sitting on the other side of the livingroom, you're on the couch. the conversation's going well but you want to get her next to you and heat things up a bit. what now?

SITUATION #2: you're doing homework with a girl you've known for awhile. although you know that she finds you attractive, and she made out with you on one occasion, you've never pursued it and seem to be settled into the friend zone. now you're cuddled up and you want to go for the kiss again. what's a smooth way to initiate?
If you are smooth player you wouldn't allow yourself to be in those situations to begin with, therefore its irrelevent what you do now because you already failed in your overall success rate in doing something else much earlier. Those situations you described are 2 predicaments a non smooth player would find himself in.

Situation#1: You don't take a chick for dinner on the first date. You take her out for drinks, its much more fun and alot lighter on the wallet. By that time she should have already warmed up to you with your charming and funny personality and your kino. Therefore if you decide to take her home with you for a "movie" she should already be comfortable being close near you and the distance shouldn't be an issue. If there was an issue at the bar already with kino and she was uncomfortable with you then you don't bring her home but you call it a day and NEXT her ass because she wasn't digging you.

Situation#2: You don't settle for a friendzone and you do pursue the girl after you made up with her. If you don't then you snooze and lose. Trying to initiate something long after that is a slippery slope that has little or any success. Too much energy is going be wasted on this one as opposed of sarging other girls who have not put you in the friendzone.
 
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bengboy said:
so explain some of your techniques for getting physical with a girl.

SITUATION #1: after your first date (dinner) you bring a chick back to your place. she's sitting on the other side of the livingroom, you're on the couch. the conversation's going well but you want to get her next to you and heat things up a bit. what now?

Tell her to come sit next to you and kiss her. Then take her to the room and give her a 3 hour special. No 2 pump chump.

Same goes for situation #2.

Man, I'm getting good.
 

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bengboy said:
that's not specific enough. how do you get her close enough to kino if she's sitting on the other side of the room? and if you invite her to come sit on the couch and she says "no thanks I'm fine", how do you proceed?
If she says no thanks either she is not attratcted to you or she is a very shy girl with low confidence.

I dunno this might not be too DJ but i would probobly ask her to play a game with me that would get us closer together. Tell her i want to play paper scissor rock or the game where you try to hit the hand something along those lines i know there is better. If she still refuses than i think i would give up on that girl. If she accepts thats a good chance to kino and eventually go for the kiss. If she rejects you could always say something along the line *smiling sarcasticly say* "i thought we agreed if i win i would get a kiss" or if she wins say "i am so proud of you i thought i would give reward you with this".

After saying that *knowing me* i would probobly get impatient and say i am getting tired do you want me to drive you home.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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First one's easy. There's a ton of ways to romance a girl into bed from your home court. I usually put on some music, offer up a drink and motion for her to sit on the sofa with me. Steer the conversation to excitment and conquer.
That's just one way but there are others.

Second one ehhhh I'm not really in school so much and i was pretty big on doing homework alone when i was. I imagine you could keep looking at her and when she ask what you're saying at keep saying nothing for a while then when she's getting agrivated say something in a calm manner "You're eyes are just so beautiful...it's very difficult for me to concentrate when we're this close" or something else canned like that. Why you'd need an opportunity like that to score in school eludes me though. There's tons up tons of time to hook up in school since you have not real obligations.
 
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