"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You guys on here are fvcking pathetic

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I look at 90% of these posts and they all demonstrate the same pvssy ass problems. Then the forum, which seems more like a women's support group all chime in with crappy advice. Initiate no contact, etc etc.

I make a real post trying to point you guys in the right direction, and no one hardly reads it. You guys dont want the truth. You want a fairytale that says theres light at the end of the rainbow or some sh!t.

Here's where you are now.

1. You're addicted to pvssy, and believe that complete access to it will make you happy. It wont.

2. Like any kind of addict, you want to rationalize your addiction by inventing supposedly positive things about your drug of choice. Pvssy in this case.

3. You think there is a "good one", and if you learn some monkey pick up tricks you'll get her. All women are cvnts and very dangerous. But of course you cant see it cause your blinded by the pvssy.

4. You complain and comment about issues like feminism and the degradation of men, but you dont have the depth to begin to understand why women's lib even started and what it has doen to you. Hence the need for a gay as$ forum like this.

5. Theres a lot more but you probably dont get the first 4 so i'm not wasting more time.

I want to help you guys but you are stuck in a rut, believing that the silly tricks and advice are going to help you. It isn't. Go to the video link in the "Take you're manhood back" thread and watch it. This guy is saying what some of us actually understand. Start there and go a little deeper until you start to get it. And stop listening to each other. It's like dumb and dumber giving each other tips.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Right, because i'm that big of a pvssy. And im an attention ***** as well. No, i am pissed that when i check this forum twice a year, i see the same crap. No one wants the truth so I am not surprised a real posting gets no feedback.

This is just a testament to how Gay this forum has gotten. If I made some retarded post about "She wont call me back" id get a slew of idiots with same problem chiming in. You guys all need a kick in the ass. If i could slap your head in person i would, cuz you guys are sleeping.
 

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You get really frustrated when you check this forum twice a year? Why don't you cut your usage by two occurrences per year. That will solve your frustration.

I think the issue was evident when I watched that YouTube video. Your outlook on the whole situation is very different than most people (hence your frustration with that you see here). I think there are some guys that agree with your thinking, but it's a minority. I completely agree that some of the issues here are over-asked, over-analyzed, and sometimes very petty. But the point is that people are trying to come here to learn. Just because your outlook on the situation is different, doesn't make this forum "gay", or "retarded".

Neither outlook is "correct". They are just different. You are preaching a less popular thought process. Naturally you are going to get less feedback on it. You either need to chill out, or grow up.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mistic said:
I look at 90% of these posts and they all demonstrate the same pvssy ass problems. Then the forum, which seems more like a women's support group all chime in with crappy advice. Initiate no contact, etc etc.

Just let it all out. That's right. Let it out. There there.

If your internet friends aren't paying attention to you, then they're just not good internet friends and we'll have to find you some new ones.
 

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PDubb75 said:
You get really frustrated when you check this forum twice a year? Why don't you cut your usage by two occurrences per year. That will solve your frustration.

I think the issue was evident when I watched that YouTube video. Your outlook on the whole situation is very different than most people (hence your frustration with that you see here). I think there are some guys that agree with your thinking, but it's a minority. I completely agree that some of the issues here are over-asked, over-analyzed, and sometimes very petty. But the point is that people are trying to come here to learn. Just because your outlook on the situation is different, doesn't make this forum "gay", or "retarded".

Neither outlook is "correct". They are just different. You are preaching a less popular thought process. Naturally you are going to get less feedback on it. You either need to chill out, or grow up.
What a perfectly faggy response. Did you check with your feminist overlords before presenting the perfectly balanced response. I think I can hear Yin and Yang fvcking right now. It's really sad how hopeless the situation really is here. But keep telling yourselves your making progress. What a joke.
 

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you do realize that you are asking why everyone here is complaining about their problems with females in a forum catered to helping males with problems regarding females?

oh right you're smarter than that......

If you look around you at your siblings, parents, friends, etc. you'll notice something very distinguishable. Everyone is different, if not by looks atleast by thought. No one is the same, and although we may have similar problems, we all have different circumstances. People are from different geographies, cultures, ages, and reside in different citys or town's. Naturally people will ask similar questions but with a different backdrop as to get a more tailored response.

I honestly feel the way you do. You see virtually the same type of story day after day and month after month and now its turning into year after year (I have seen a significant decline in BPD threads). But do you remember when you came to this forum asking for help with your problems and everyone stepped up to aid you. Either tell you your stupid, blind, or ignorant and then educate you by providing with reading material. Although this stuff seems old and repetitive to the veterans here, newbies will come here daily looking for help and as Alumni of Sosuave University I believe its our job to contribute/give back to the community.

If not, you can do as PDubb advised.
 
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What this forum needs is a "newbie section". This would eliminate 90% of these problems. It doesn't do any good when you have guys just stepping into the game reading harder to understand material, and other guys reading material they learned years ago. It doesn't benefit anyone, and this is what causes the hostility in the responses and can actually hurt people's game.

I can say personally, reading constantly rehashed questions/material psychologically seems to hurt my own game.
 

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I actually think that's a really good point. We have some forums to separate the age gaps but we still done have one for separating the experienced from in experienced.

Maybe a Mature Man Newbie section and a DJ newbie section would help.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I would like to see more references and more review of literature on the forum. Every time I quote anything it's crickets. We're supposed to be well read, to draw analogies, and to learn from the masters (I don't mean myself - but that too!).
 

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As much as I do not want to I have to agree with Mistic, this place is just not the same. I mean do not get me wrong, I have done my share of whining and *****ing but instead of continuing that trend I took some advice, lost 100+ lbs and started improving myself and my situation.

But if you are going to ask for advice, take some of it and quit posting the same boohoo threads every damn day.

I see people who have been here for a year and have thousands of posts, I mean do you ever leave your KB's?
 

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Times have changed. I joined back in 2008. There were a lot of BPD threads back then and quite a few people that had serious issues who were unsure where to go or what to do while being at the lowest of lows in their life either emotionally, financially or worse, both. I remember reading about people despairing and wanting nothing better than to disappear. I was one of those guys and one of the last ones that actually put himself back together. Don't see that type anymore.

A new age has dawned the forum. Mostly people looking to improve their game as opposed someone looking for a helping hand to get back on their own two feet.
 
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Every generation gets softer and more feminized. Your grandpa knows more about women than you ever will. But the truth is out there if you want to find it. And it's not a bunch of feel good crap. There is a war going on and you are losing. I'm making a new thread right now to shine a little more light. I don't mean to come off like Last Man Standing, but this sh!t isn't a joke. And its not as petty as and shallow as, how to get laid.
 

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I value ***** since I like sex, I like dating, and I like women and value relationships with them. it's my nature as a man, and frankly a human being.

I don't call it an addiction, since something natural isn't an addiction per se. One needs food, but few are addicted to it in the strictest sense.

I believe humans are complex, and absolutes don't apply to us. I think that there are plenty of women who meet my type. Dating is always a numbers games.

I believe all in society should hold the same rights, so I agree with feminism. However, I can see where some men are coming from, in that feminism has eroded traditional male ideals (i don't agree with them wholly though).
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I can agree with this brother mistic is saying.

Every problem that has newly been posted here has probably been asked before at one or another point. People can easily use the search function and come up with a solution to their problem! I'm tired of saying the same things over and over again. Some people post here and don't even take the advice and I was guilty of that before as well. You really can't stop weeny sh!t. You just gotta experience it.
 

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Everyone is a noob at some point though, it's the nature of any online forum. I'm on a computer tech forum as well, and it's the exact same way with build compatibility threads.
 

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I think a lot of people here at very good at giving advice and dishing it out...not so much taking though.

Think one of the most common one is;when a girl doesn't return a phone call, acts distant, flirts with others; is "tell her to go hell, you are the MAN, spin more PLATES."

Advice may work in a specific situation, but it's an ideology we are trying to change here, not one thing to do at a specific moment in time.
 

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I only make these harsh threads now and then when I dont see anyone else doing it and the forum is flooded with topics it doesn't need to be. I have empathy not sympathy. Like a doctor who has to hurt you a little more to help you, I dont mind doing the same. This is also the true definition of compassion. Tough love.
 

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Just when I think I have a bleak outlook on life , someone like you comes along and makes me feel a lot better , you just seem like a angry hateful person , I wouldn't be surprised of you were this extreme with every other aspect of your life , you probably have a firm and angry view on every controversial topic possible .

How does it feel to wake up and be so pissed about **** that will most likely never change ?

your like a religious nut that wont shut up , no ones buying what your selling , you can stop posting you videos now
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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