You guys make dating so complex

[n00bPimp]

You guys need to take a 10,000ft look at getting chicks.
I havent been here in a while, this is because I simply got bored with all the theories and procedures that one is supossed to follow to get a girl. In reality it is way more simple than many of you make it seem.
This is my common approach:
1st. Look your best and be comfortable with yourself.
2nd. Find your target.
3rd. Say Hi, try finding something in common or being ****y and funny, prefferably both, to make her feel comfortable around you.
4th. Get the number.
5th. Call her the next day or the day after, if she picks up you're half way there, you can actually go for it and ask her to be your g/f right there if thats what you're looking for, if she turns you down ask her on date and close the deal there.

I think most people here are so concerned with following a set of rules to the 't' that they end up screwing themselves up in the long run when it gets tiring to read from the script and their true selves can't be held-in any longer.
The best approach is always the simplest one. I believe the best approach is to always make her feel confortable. Don't be too nice because she will feel forced to be nice back to you and thats very uncomfortable. Don't be rude either because that is just stupid.
Do you notice how people that are totally confortable with each other spend as much time picking on each other as having actual conversations? Like best friends, relatives, etc.
Just be comfortable with yourself and this will make her feel comfortable which will lead to ass.

 

[tmpgstx]

I don't think it's so much about following rules as it is knowing what not to do. For example,

Call her the next day or the day after, if she picks up you're half way there, you can actually go for it and ask her to be your g/f right there if thats what you're looking for, if she turns you down ask her on date and close the deal there

I don't think this is a good idea at all. It forces them to make a big decision without evening know you at all. Calling them the next day i would not do either. It's true, you want to present some challenge and be the prize. I do agree with getting her comfortable.

 

[DJ4Real]

At the end, you'd fail most of the time. Don't "call the next day" period. Calling the next day shouldn't even be an option.

Dating is complex because people are complex.

 

[n00bPimp]

I agree, asking strangers to have a serious relationship is not a very good idea. But its worth a try when you have friends in common or see each other frequently, I should've made this clear.
However, calling the next day or day after doesn't make a diference from what I've experienced. I have not yet been rejected for calling 24 hours earlier, maybe it will happen one day, and that will be a day of glory. By the way I've realized this is a very stupid rule, I'm a pretty busy person, i have a part time job at a bank and go to school full time. I'm a top student and have a lot of friends, but I always find the time to call people. Heck, when I meet somebody I preffer to call them the next day so there's less of a chance they've forgotten about me.
But hey, if you live to prove the world that you're not needy then go right ahead and set up a schedule of appropriate calling times.

 

[Bill]

@noobPimp: People take what they want, they don't use everything listed here. We're not making it more complex than it is, we're just discussing the big picture -- and many guys don't have a clue about the big picture.

I for one do not think people are looking for a set of rules, I think they're looking for answers. They're looking for tips. They're trying to find out why in the world they're having so much trouble with women. And that's legitimate.

Also: you summed up a number close approach, but each point can be discussed, explained, argued, detailed, etc. I'll simply take the first one:
1st. Look your best and be comfortable with yourself.
Right there, you have one of the main issues discussed around here: being comfortable with oneself. Some guys, many guys, just aren't that comfortable, confident with themselves.

Trust me, there is a lot to discuss in these matters, especially to help those that need help. If what you do works for you, Kudos; but respect the fact that many guys out there still need advice, because to them, dating just happens to be a complex thing.

-Bill

 

[DJ4Real]

It has nothing to do with proving " to the world" that we aren't needy.

It shows the woman that you have a life that isn't focused around her.

Yes, women LOVE to be liked, they LOVE it.

And calling with in 24 hours, she gets to thinkin' " wow, he must really really like me, he's called me right away."

The thing about that is, no matter how much you show affection for a woman, it's not what creates the attraction.

Mystery + 2 steps foward one step back+ C & F+ Push and Pull= Attraction

Calling with in 24 hours kills the mystery by 50%. Which means there is a 50-50 chance that, the magical feeling of intial attaction could be reduced.

Do whatever is "successful" for you.