"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You guys don't get it.

The Deacon

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I give my respect to the two schools of thought, both DJism and PUAism.

All that aside, I don't think you guys really understand why PUAism has successfully turned losers previously branded "hopeless" into successful players. It's not the stupid fvcking scripted routines. It's not the checklist of things to do. Pick-up still largely has to do with social skills, and if you can successfully implement good social skills by following a script, then you can probably "act natural" in a pick-up and still know what you're doing. After all, what makes a successful pick-up isn't following a stupid routine, it's the behaviors you pick up after constant exposure to the environments. PUAs still advocate being "natural," but if your "natural" just plain sucks, it's best to follow the formula until your "natural game" improves. After all, scripts are made of words, and words are only 7% of all human communication.

PUAs don't advocate scripted routines so you can fit under this single "PUA" mold. The whole purpose of using scripted routines and canned lines as you're doing routines is to help shove socially inept men into the world of women.

You can't take a nerd who secluded himself in his room his whole life out sarging and have him act like a stud by telling him to "act natural." By far the most effective way to teach someone how to attract women is by exposure and structure. The routines and gimmicks are only training wheels in the end. As soon as they hit their stride, they wouldn't really crutch on routines anyway.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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crossboss

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Agreed

The Deacon said:
I give my respect to the two schools of thought, both DJism and PUAism.

All that aside, I don't think you guys really understand why PUAism has successfully turned losers previously branded "hopeless" into successful players. It's not the stupid fvcking scripted routines. It's not the checklist of things to do. Pick-up still largely has to do with social skills, and if you can successfully implement good social skills by following a script, then you can probably "act natural" in a pick-up and still know what you're doing. After all, what makes a successful pick-up isn't following a stupid routine, it's the behaviors you pick up after constant exposure to the environments. PUAs still advocate being "natural," but if your "natural" just plain sucks, it's best to follow the formula until your "natural game" improves. After all, scripts are made of words, and words are only 7% of all human communication.

PUAs don't advocate scripted routines so you can fit under this single "PUA" mold. The whole purpose of using scripted routines and canned lines as you're doing routines is to help shove socially inept men into the world of women.

You can't take a nerd who secluded himself in his room his whole life out sarging and have him act like a stud by telling him to "act natural." By far the most effective way to teach someone how to attract women is by exposure and structure. The routines and gimmicks are only training wheels in the end. As soon as they hit their stride, they wouldn't really crutch on routines anyway.
Although I think it is a little of both, if "Going with the flow." means act natural. You basically have to also judge the situation. Bascially, the having a structure isn't math but more like a guide...
 

SinJester

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Take how that nerd acts around his friends - relaxed, having fun, possibly funny, talkative, more outgoing. Think about if he acted like that in front of hot girls. That's being natural.

Routines are good training wheels I believe, but only if you actively work towards natural game, otherwise you will always fall back to routines. Me talking about this is keyboard jockeying, watch The Blueprint, it explains everything.

The only reason why lines work is because people believe they will work. If you got the game anything will work, only by game I mean core confidence and social skills.
 
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