"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You guys are more into LTR's then ONS's, right?

GamePlan

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Ive never really looked at this forum, but I'm wondering if my perception is right that you guys (late 20's and older) are way more into getting a "quality woman" instead of trying to get laid as much as possible. Am I right? or did the last thread I read about quality women influence me too much?

This might sound silly (especially on the regular DJ forum), but I've started to wonder if this whole "DJ" stuff is taking it too far, and is mostly helpful if you want to get laid as much as possible, but potentially dangerous if you're looking to attract girlfriend material, etc..

I mean sure, a lot of those mental games work on most women, but maybe this only attracts silly hoes, you'd never want to be in a relationship with, anyway?

So anyway, what I'm really wondering is this:

Are a lot of the things that are frowned upon in the regular forum of this site - like being nice to a woman or let alone romantical and charming ;) - maybe actually good things if you're looking to meet quality women instead of having hot, but superficial/dumb chicks chase you?

EDIT/EXAMPLE:

I remember this guy who was well..a bit of a romantical wuss and he got with a good-looking girl back in high school (definitely better looking than him). In other words an "AFC". I used to be with a girl at the time, who knew him and she said that couple wouldnt last long, because he's too much of a [insert german word for a guy who spends too much time with his girl].

Now 5 years later that guy is still with this girl...and I don't have much to do with that chick from back then anymore, and am glad about it, because she's a bit messed in her head..not what I'd consider girlfriend material.....that really makes me think if the whole DJ thing is mostly helpful with attracting flings and ONS's but harmful when it comes to relationships.

I'm not trying to say "just be yourself", because being a "Man" and "confident" instead of a Wuss is probably always an advantage (just as much a turn on for a woman as a feminine woman is for us guys, I assume)...but I'm wondering if some of the ideas that are promoted on the regular forum here on SS might actually be harmful with women/only help with attracting women that aren't really girlfriend material (because you have to play too many mind games with them and wont be able to connect with them emotionally).

The few things I've learned about women are "Be A Man", "Be Confident", "Don't Act like a Friend", and that women don't like a man who's lazy (not necessarily because she's a gold digger (not worth going for), but because women are pretty turned on by "ambition" and a guy who has "goals")...that kind of stuff has become part of my personality (having gone from a teenager to a man). But most of the other stuff I read on that regular forum makes me wonder "if I have to play such mind games to keep her interested, isn't it doomed to fail in the first place?"
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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puma183

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There is being a Nice Guy (TM) and then there is being Nice to your LTR from time to time to reward her for good behavior. If you can distinguish between the two, you are off to a good start.

Your LTR will also be happier with this arrangement, as she will feel the satisfaction of having earned the tenderness that she receives. It has more value if she has to work to get it.
 

guywhoneedshelp

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I'll reconsider relationships again when I'm 25. For now, I'm just dating several chicks and will continue to do so.
 

GamePlan

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Well, I guess now that this thread has been moved out of the "Mature Men" forum, it probbaly doesn't make much sense anymore LOL ;)
 

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Some posters are into quality women others are more interested in getting laid as much as possible. You might have to do a poll to find out the percentages.^^




GamePlan said:
Ive never really looked at this forum, but I'm wondering if my perception is right that you guys (late 20's and older) are way more into getting a "quality woman" instead of trying to get laid as much as possible. Am I right? or did the last thread I read about quality women influence me too much?

This might sound silly (especially on the regular DJ forum), but I've started to wonder if this whole "DJ" stuff is taking it too far, and is mostly helpful if you want to get laid as much as possible, but potentially dangerous if you're looking to attract girlfriend material, etc..

I mean sure, a lot of those mental games work on most women, but maybe this only attracts silly hoes, you'd never want to be in a relationship with, anyway?

So anyway, what I'm really wondering is this:

Are a lot of the things that are frowned upon in the regular forum of this site - like being nice to a woman or let alone romantical and charming ;) - maybe actually good things if you're looking to meet quality women instead of having hot, but superficial/dumb chicks chase you?

EDIT/EXAMPLE:

I remember this guy who was well..a bit of a romantical wuss and he got with a good-looking girl back in high school (definitely better looking than him). In other words an "AFC". I used to be with a girl at the time, who knew him and she said that couple wouldnt last long, because he's too much of a [insert german word for a guy who spends too much time with his girl].

Now 5 years later that guy is still with this girl...and I don't have much to do with that chick from back then anymore, and am glad about it, because she's a bit messed in her head..not what I'd consider girlfriend material.....that really makes me think if the whole DJ thing is mostly helpful with attracting flings and ONS's but harmful when it comes to relationships.

I'm not trying to say "just be yourself", because being a "Man" and "confident" instead of a Wuss is probably always an advantage (just as much a turn on for a woman as a feminine woman is for us guys, I assume)...but I'm wondering if some of the ideas that are promoted on the regular forum here on SS might actually be harmful with women/only help with attracting women that aren't really girlfriend material (because you have to play too many mind games with them and wont be able to connect with them emotionally).

The few things I've learned about women are "Be A Man", "Be Confident", "Don't Act like a Friend", and that women don't like a man who's lazy (not necessarily because she's a gold digger (not worth going for), but because women are pretty turned on by "ambition" and a guy who has "goals")...that kind of stuff has become part of my personality (having gone from a teenager to a man). But most of the other stuff I read on that regular forum makes me wonder "if I have to play such mind games to keep her interested, isn't it doomed to fail in the first place?"
Yes it usually is doomed to fail when you have to play mind games. People who play mind games are usually AFC's pretending to be DJ's.


Having said that there is a saying called 'fake it till you make it'. To be and attractive man you might first have to act it until it becomes a habit.


PUA can get women to sleep with them but in many cases they cannot even get a girlfriend once the girl sees who the the real person is.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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