"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You begin NC and move on, she sees you with new HB, gets jealous,for how long though?

pikachu69

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I started to administer No Contact with this HB cos her IL level seemed to be dropping and I acted AFC, I moved on with my life and had coffee with a new HB. Incidentally my old HB started to act jealous as she went past us to leave. I was making direct eye contact with my new HB but I could see in my peripheral vision that my old HB turned to evaluate the girl I was with as she went by to leave. I sensed jealousy.

How long do these feelings last for for a woman? do i need to redo it every few days to make her feel the jealousy again? and what is her likely response to that jealousy? Is she going to go f some guy to get back at me?

Turns out that yesterday at the same cafe, my friend was sitting behind her on a different table, and she was flirting with a guy (not a date they were studying) and she left by kissing the guy on the cheek (that's a direct IOI for him cos she never ever kisses people goodbye unless they initiate it first but he didn't) should I be overly concerned by this? and does NC still work on girls that have moved onto a new flame?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Long enough. If you get further with the new chick you can expect the old HB to get progressively more jealous which puts you in a good position to lay both of them. :up:

and does NC still work on girls that have moved onto a new flame?
Yes it can.
 

pikachu69

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That's good news. So even though she has high interest in the guy she flirted with yesterday jealousy can make her forget him and come back to me?

Also, do I need to have her see me with my new HB at least couple times a week for it to work?
 

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pikachu69 said:
That's good news. So even though she has high interest in the guy she flirted with yesterday jealousy can make her forget him and come back to me?
Just because you saw her flirt with another guy it does not mean she is interested in that guy. By the sounds of it she was trying to counter your games by attempting to make YOU jealous as well, which means you've gotten to her.

And yes even if she really does have high interest in this guy, 99% chance he will go AFC over her and she'll come running to you in the long run.

pikachu69 said:
Also, do I need to have her see me with my new HB at least couple times a week for it to work?
Not really since she is probably thinking about you and this other girl being together and she might go crazy over you if you keep up no contact while you game this other girl. It will help for sure if she sees you two flirting or hooking up. Even better if you can somehow leak some gossip about you fvcking this new girl. That should put her imagination into overdrive and will spark some attraction most definitely.
 

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pikachu69 said:
Turns out that yesterday at the same cafe, my friend was sitting behind her on a different table, and she was flirting with a guy (not a date they were studying) and she left by kissing the guy on the cheek (that's a direct IOI for him cos she never ever kisses people goodbye unless they initiate it first but he didn't) should I be overly concerned by this? and does NC still work on girls that have moved onto a new flame?
Agree with Katatonia once again.

She did that to mess with you. Pretend it doesn't bother you a bit.

The worrisome part of all this, is that you didn't notice that and that you're too worried about her. Step back and read the DJ bible once again to avoid going AFC very soon...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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No no I didn't see it and you have it the other way round. My friend saw her flirting with a guy on Sunday in the cafe while studying and she kissed the guy on the cheek goodbye, she initiated it not him (she never kisses people goodbye so that's a clear IOI for him) THEN the next day I was a new HB in the cafe where I assume she got jealous. My friend is pretty good at cold reading situations and he said they were definitely flirting cos he overheard a lot of the convo and said there was definitely mutual high interest for both parties.

Does this change things?

Because she wasn't messing with me, she was already moving on. Hence my other thread of her with her eyes down pretending she didn't see me. I acted afc and annoying to her, but I don't think she expected me to bounce back so quick.

Her interest in him is higher than interest in me so if she's playing silly games pretending not to see me, then she's fed up with me so though seeing me with another HB is going to instill emotions like jealousy but is that really enough?

Especially if she's so turned off by me.
 

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I think this jealousy thing might be working, I was on the phone as I entered the cafe looking for my friend then I looked to the right and she looked up, I waved at her but didn't smile (I'm not a smiley person naturally though I probably should have) then walked to the back of the cafe then walked back straight and left without saying goodbye,I didn't look at her as I left but I was wearing sunglasses anyway so I don't know why I avoided eye contact anyway so didn't see her reaction of me leaving. She waved at me as I waved and wasn't her usual pretend she doesn't see me self 2 days ago. She kinda smiled but nothing that indicated excitement about seeing me. Is this exactly the reaction I want from her? Also will she be wondering why I left the cafe so quick?
katatonia said:
Just because you saw her flirt with another guy it does not mean she is interested in that guy. By the sounds of it she was trying to counter your games by attempting to make YOU jealous as well, which means you've gotten to her.

And yes even if she really does have high interest in this guy, 99% chance he will go AFC over her and she'll come running to you in the long run.



Not really since she is probably thinking about you and this other girl being together and she might go crazy over you if you keep up no contact while you game this other girl. It will help for sure if she sees you two flirting or hooking up. Even better if you can somehow leak some gossip about you fvcking this new girl. That should put her imagination into overdrive and will spark some attraction most definitely.
 

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Also does she need to see you around for NC to work effectively?

I don't mean necessarily me with another girl but just around to remind her of your presence. If she's already moved on I doubt you'd be in her thoughts much.
 

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I didn't manage to meet up in public with a different HB to make me look more valuable so I don't know if that has slowed down the NC process of making her jealous?

Bear in mind I'm still more into this HB i'm NC'ing as she's my ideal type looks wise and personality interests etc HOWEVER her behaviour isn't, but I think that's systematic of her low IL rather than her fault in itself.
 
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