You Are All Upstanding Men!

[Desdinova]

I've been wanting to write this for a while...

I've contemplated this site over and over again. I've contemplated all the guys who come here, trying to better their personal situations whether it be their personalities, their finances, or their interactions with the opposite sex. The fact that you are here and have chosen to remain here makes you upstanding. ALL of you are BETTER than the average man. You're working hard to make YOU a better person.

That woman who rejected your date offer? She has no clue what she just lost. She's drowning in a sea of average, uninteresting, stationary men. She knows nothing about you. She doesn't know your desire to become more financially successful. She doesn't know that you've strengthened your confidence to the point of approaching her and asking her out. She doesn't know that you've asked out many women before her and have built up a shield for your emotions due to encountering mass rejections. She has no clue that the man she fantasizes to be with has just slipped through her hands.

You guys are all hard workers. Your bodies looked like 5hit before you took charge of your diet and physical activity. Your confidence was nearly non-existent before you went outside your comfort zone and did the things you were afraid to do previously. You were stuck in a crummy job living paycheck to paycheck before you took your emotional shield with you to fight for the job that you really wanted to get. Your d1ck saw a vagina as an occasional vacation from your hand.

YOU ARE ALL FVCKING AWESOME. YOU DESERVE PRAISE FOR YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS.

To the newbies: You are all upstanding men as well. Your past experiences do not define who you are. The fact that you're here and learning how to make your lives better makes you magnificent. The women out there have no clue what they're in for in the future. You're going to get out there, make things happen, and fvck the majestic creatures you desire. All you need to do is keep yourself on the focused path of improvement. NEVER GIVE UP. There will be plenty of time for fvcking women once you've got all the right things in place.

To all the magnificent men on this forum, keep up the good work. Keep progressing in your self-improvement. You will stand out among the crowd and people will take notice.

 

[Poon King]

Achieve your goals or die trying.

What else is there to do?

Truth is.. most people will spend their lives achieving other people's goals. Betas will spend their lives achieving other people's goals at work and women's goals when they leave work.

 

[Young OG]

Great thread. After reading this it makes me want to keep on going even more. Sometimes I think I haven't accomplished much since I came here, but looking back to the way my life was, and the way I used to look, I have came a long way. I've had some set backs this year, but I haven't gave up.

Just keep going guys. Results don't happen over night. You have to be in it for the long haul. Like Des said, never give up!

 

[resilient]

Glad I came back to this forum last year. I took nearly a decade hiatus while I was tied down in my last LTR relationship.

Since the breakup last fall I've made a few friends here that held me accountable and helped push me to continue to accomplish goals.

I'm still working on a career transition, yet I have a game plan and a general timeline of how I will get there within the next few years. I'm striving to do my best to live my life for myself with red pill awareness and killing the neediness that drove plates away.

I know the DJ mindset works because I've sensed people (new and existing connections) treating me differently this year for the first time with respect. I plan to keep respecting and putting myself first.

Plates come and go, so what's the one thing that's constant? Ourselves. We've got to brush off the broken shards and keep striving forward. Game on!

 

[Epicwinguy]

Every time I feel like **** because of my low income and living situation, I just remind myself most people are not on a journey of constant self-improvement like the men on this forum. 5/5 on the thread.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Every time I feel like **** because of my low income and living situation, I just remind myself most people are not on a journey of constant self-improvement like the men on this forum. 5/5 on the thread.

You're right. Most people do not even have an ounce of hope left. They've resigned to their struggle. I've known and loved people like this. Quitters. I see the future - the man I want to be, places I want to see, things I want to do. In fact, I've already tasted it and "sampled" that life. I will stop at nothing to get back there.

Nobody who has given this forum one post that was from the heart has resigned. You may not be doing well now, but you're still struggling to make yourself better. And that counts. When my father died and my LTR left, I went into a spiral that ultimately lasted 20 months. Around month 14, I had an epiphany while really stoned one night. Fight, or become a worthless piece of **** who quit life in his 20's. When you hit rock bottom, you make that choice. Life can seem pretty pointless at times, but we're here now regardless. Might as well fight.

There is a cheesy line my company has in its mission statement, but it works.

"We know our best was good for today. Tomorrow we'll do better."

 

[blind_one]

Very good post.

They've resigned to their struggle. I've known and loved people like this. Quitters.

It is what most people become in today's society, mindless controllable peons to the govt ... Tax paying machines to the regime. Brain washed without a thought of their own. Sadly ...

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

It is true. For the serious guys on this forum, we are pretty much all the same. Differing personalities, but there is definitely a common energy. It's pretty clear who takes this seriously and who doesn't.

Life really can be changed for the better, but it takes a lot of hard work and resilience. Most won't make it; but that's the precise nature of survival of the fittest I guess.

 

[The Duke]

Great postings gentlemen, it always feels good to hang out with such quality individuals.

When I look at the majority of my unhappy married friends they all have one thing in common....they gave up, quit making themselves the best they could be, and settled. They weren't strong enough to keep looking themselves in the mirror and pressing on against adversity.

Any thing worth having never came easy.........Keep pressing on.

 

[resilient]

Achieve your goals or die trying.

This is the best motivational quote I've read in a while. I read this quote and immediately took out a quality piece of paper, wrote with a bold sharpie and pinned it in a place that I see often that others don't. It'll remind me daily why I'm striving to get into grad school and succeed with my career transition while the future hasn't arrived, yet.

 

[zekko]

Every time I feel like **** because of my low income and living situation, I just remind myself most people are not on a journey of constant self-improvement like the men on this forum.

Most guys here are in their 20s. I remember when I was in my 20s, I was freaking obsessed with self improvement. And I had no message board to read or encourage me. To my mind, that's what your 20s are all about - self improving. You're laying down the groundwork for your entire life.

I honestly can't believe that there are young guys out there who aren't out there trying to self improve, I can't relate. To me that's why we have the testosterone and the competitive urge. But I guess those guys are out there, they have to be. What a bunch of deadbeats they must be. I don't think you have to read SoSuave to believe in self improvement though, not by a long shot.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Ayyy there we go! Someone who finally acknowledges me to be in relation with my username. Thanks Des

 

[Tenacity]

Most guys here are in their 20s. I remember when I was in my 20s, I was freaking obsessed with self improvement. And I had no message board to read or encourage me. To my mind, that's what your 20s are all about - self improving. You're laying down the groundwork for your entire life.

I honestly can't believe that there are young guys out there who aren't out there trying to self improve, I can't relate. To me that's why we have the testosterone and the competitive urge. But I guess those guys are out there, they have to be. What a bunch of deadbeats they must be. I don't think you have to read SoSuave to believe in self improvement though, not by a long shot.

I agree and this is a great thread. Here's the track you guys want to be on "in general":

- From 16 - 29: It's all about discovery, testing, and exploration. You are trying this job and that job. This major and that major. Trying this style to get women, then trying that style to get women. Trying this approach to fitness, then trying that approach to fitness. It's all about discovery, exploration, and testing to figure out what works for you, what doesn't work for you, what your skills are, what your fears are, etc., etc. It's OK to not have your complete financial house in order at this time.

- From 30 to 40: Now it's all about eliminating what doesn't work, keeping what does work, and zoning in on hitting goals, objectives, and savings for retirement. You should be within a solid career at this point, you should have completed college, you should have financial house in order, you should have developed your "style" when it comes to dealing with women, and you should have developed a good fitness program.

- From 40 to 60: Any final major investments, final projects, final dreams, etc., all are pushed here all while continuing to maintain your financial and other "bases". From there, you are looking towards retirement at age 61 or you will opt to take an early retirement during this phase.

- From 60 Until You Die: You're in retirement, looking back over your life you should have achieved just about all that you set out to achieve in terms of career goals, education goals, women goals, fitness goals, and other life goals. During this phase you are just hanging out, traveling, and enjoying retirement until you die.

 

[Serenity]

This forum sure has a high concentration of guys who know their sh!t. I believe it's because many end up on this forum by a mixture of humility and a strong will to solve one's own problems. This is how I got here, I didn't initially know anything about how to handle women. I did have a strong desire to figure it out and the humility to realize how bad I was and learn how to do better.

I started knowing very little and today I give back more than I take from this forum.

This forum didn't instantly make me better, it didn't do the hard work for me. It sure saved me a great deal of time and potential pain though. It showed me what to look out for, but I still had to look for it in reality to understand the lesson. It gives knowledge, but it's worthless without experience. I can only imagine how many years I would have wasted and how much frustration I would have to endure if I didn't find this huge resource.

It might seem annoying to answer newbie questions on this forum, but it's really nescessary for us to share our advice. The issues seem simple and obvious to us, but for most of the newbies it's something entirely new. It's old news for me now, but I can remember a time where I was in the dark and the simplest of advice I got on this forum was a beacon of light.

This forum helped me achieve my goal faster and with less pain than what figuring it out alone would. I got some good lays, I learned what to do and definitely not do. With the cumulative wisdom of this forum I scored a good girlfriend and learned how to keep it good to make it last.

I'm most impressed by the fact that this forum has existed for well over a decade and is still strong. It has taken some hard hits in periods, but never fully regressed into what similar forums have. There's still gold nuggets being spawned here, this thread being one of them.

Thank you guys.

 

[playa99]

Great post Des.

I've been here nearly a decade, frightening considering I'm only 24.

Just by committing to self-improvement you are steps ahead of the next guy. It hasn't happened overnight for me and I have had lapses back into AFC land, but I believe this website on the whole is a large factor in who & where I am today. Infact I would go one step further and say that it has been the main factor in my self improvement. Reading the book of pook and the HS bible was mind blowing!

I've posted here more this year than any other & I am better for it. Everything is improving. I know I wont post on here forever & I don't need to post on here forever, but the past decade has been a helluva ride & I'm looking forward to the next one.

Thank you!