"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Yo guys my approaches suck..FR if u want to call this pathetic sh.t that

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Uggggg, I will admit, I don't get as nervous as I used to before an approach. But still, I **** it up and it lasts for about 5 seconds. I walk up with something so stupid and indirect to say and mumble it and I have to fu,king repeat what I said and boom, approach over from my retarted yes or no question. No number, I just end up looking like an idiot.

This is my pathetic approach of the night on some girl my age that works at the bowling alley.

Me: Do you have a brother?

Her: yea

Me: is he (name)

Her: no

Me: Oh, you look like some kid i know, thats why (she walks away)

If I can get this down, I will have the biggest edge over any other guy, because guys my age don't approach girls, never, dosent happen. My friend dosen't even know what a pick up artist is. So help me out with these approaches bc I suck. Gracias
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It's not pathetic, it's a learning curve.

Closed questions are a no-no. Keep them open, invite conversation. If a girl just has to say yes or no, then as you said, it's over and done with right there and then.

Keep the mentality on the positive side too. Every girl wants you, you're time and effort is valuable.

On a side note, guys your/our age do approach. It's not uncommon at all.
 

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BBX said:
I really have to disagree, but thats not the point. Thanks tho.
I don't know where you live dude, but it's not a rarity here man. I've been 16 before ;)
 

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I live in the suburbs about an hour away from new york city. appraching girls is like a term that will get you a blank stare.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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BBX said:
I live in the suburbs about an hour away from new york city. appraching girls is like a term that will get you a blank stare.
Ah, I see. Sorry, my United States geography isn't very flash. Good to see you're on your way to learning tools that give you the edge anyway.

Oh how countries differ.
 

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what are u talking about. i am from the suburbs, an hour away of new york city and i've picked up chicks when i was 16 all the time in the malls.

u should go to the high school forum to get answers from kids in your generation.

theres no reason to be scared when you approach girls

when i was 16 i just went up to them and said 'whats up'

what your doing is better tho - its more like what i do now --- dont ask them if they have a brother - if they say NO , then ur screwed. ask them if they graduated from some school....say that they look familair...ask them what school they graduated from...get their name..talk to them blah blah blah
 

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I came on this site when i was 14.. When i was 14 and a half i had more game then you.. (Not the brag or anything) but you make it sound like you're a big deal because you're 16
 

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lay off the guy..
u fuked up.. never approach like that.. "hey u have a brother name"

IMO thats a WEAK ass apprach.. thats why u didnt suceed...

start off STRONG.. show that UR man enough to handle her..

be like Hey how u doing. my name is BLAH and i was wondering if i could get to know you..

OR u could try other things.. i havnt apprach for a while... workin on a LTR...

just keep practing and keep reading guy

props for making the attempt
 

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lol... yea I'm around the same area, more like 20-30 minutes from the city tho in essex/passaic county, there are hella malls around here man... easy... and it's not the rarity you make it out to be, maybe just the people who hang out with, me and my friends have been picking up girls at malls since high school...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Don't be so hard on yourself. At least you approached, which is a lot more than the keyboard jockeys here do. Just learn from the experience and think of what you can do to improve your game for the next time.

Like tonight at a bowling alley, I approached a 3 set just for sh1ts and giggles. I wasn't expecting it to go anywhere, because they were acting like attention *****s, but I did it for the experience. It didn't go anywhere, but I still had a lot of fun, and now I have a story to tell my buddies.
 

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If you become more attractive it doesn't matter that much what you say. I recommend working on that, so women will be glad you approach them and are very open and receptive to you. Instead of just throwing yourself into a lot of cold approaches while you are really sketchy. Talk to more women in your social circle, so you learn to become cool and relaxed first.
I really dont like the idea of coming across insistent and needy cause women dont like that. I want them to be glad that a guy like me wants to talk to them. And you can make that happen by improving yourself (improving your character, body and style).
 

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I'm telling u guys, no one I know approaches girls. I donno. I was with my friend at the mall and we were standing there starring at these two girls with our mouths open. We then realised we were checking out the same girls. Then he blurted out the greatest one liner ever to me,,,"I wish I could like pay them 5 dollars to like say hi to me". He's not afc, dosent approach girls like anyone else I know.
 

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BBX said:
I'm telling u guys, no one I know approaches girls. I donno. I was with my friend at the mall and we were standing there starring at these two girls with our mouths open. We then realised we were checking out the same girls. Then he blurted out the greatest one liner ever to me,,,"I wish I could like pay them 5 dollars to like say hi to me". He's not afc, dosent approach girls like anyone else I know.
Exactly. People you know don't do it, but it still happens. There are a lot of people in the world you don't know ;)
 

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Randomer said:
lol... yea I'm around the same area, more like 20-30 minutes from the city tho in essex/passaic county, there are hella malls around here man... easy... and it's not the rarity you make it out to be, maybe just the people who hang out with, me and my friends have been picking up girls at malls since high school...

Haha, i live in Bergen County. Garden State Plaza=Best place to pick up girls
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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