"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yo guys my approaches suck..FR if u want to call this pathetic sh.t that

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Uggggg, I will admit, I don't get as nervous as I used to before an approach. But still, I **** it up and it lasts for about 5 seconds. I walk up with something so stupid and indirect to say and mumble it and I have to fu,king repeat what I said and boom, approach over from my retarted yes or no question. No number, I just end up looking like an idiot.

This is my pathetic approach of the night on some girl my age that works at the bowling alley.

Me: Do you have a brother?

Her: yea

Me: is he (name)

Her: no

Me: Oh, you look like some kid i know, thats why (she walks away)

If I can get this down, I will have the biggest edge over any other guy, because guys my age don't approach girls, never, dosent happen. My friend dosen't even know what a pick up artist is. So help me out with these approaches bc I suck. Gracias
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's not pathetic, it's a learning curve.

Closed questions are a no-no. Keep them open, invite conversation. If a girl just has to say yes or no, then as you said, it's over and done with right there and then.

Keep the mentality on the positive side too. Every girl wants you, you're time and effort is valuable.

On a side note, guys your/our age do approach. It's not uncommon at all.
 

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BBX said:
I really have to disagree, but thats not the point. Thanks tho.
I don't know where you live dude, but it's not a rarity here man. I've been 16 before ;)
 

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I live in the suburbs about an hour away from new york city. appraching girls is like a term that will get you a blank stare.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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BBX said:
I live in the suburbs about an hour away from new york city. appraching girls is like a term that will get you a blank stare.
Ah, I see. Sorry, my United States geography isn't very flash. Good to see you're on your way to learning tools that give you the edge anyway.

Oh how countries differ.
 

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what are u talking about. i am from the suburbs, an hour away of new york city and i've picked up chicks when i was 16 all the time in the malls.

u should go to the high school forum to get answers from kids in your generation.

theres no reason to be scared when you approach girls

when i was 16 i just went up to them and said 'whats up'

what your doing is better tho - its more like what i do now --- dont ask them if they have a brother - if they say NO , then ur screwed. ask them if they graduated from some school....say that they look familair...ask them what school they graduated from...get their name..talk to them blah blah blah
 

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I came on this site when i was 14.. When i was 14 and a half i had more game then you.. (Not the brag or anything) but you make it sound like you're a big deal because you're 16
 

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lay off the guy..
u fuked up.. never approach like that.. "hey u have a brother name"

IMO thats a WEAK ass apprach.. thats why u didnt suceed...

start off STRONG.. show that UR man enough to handle her..

be like Hey how u doing. my name is BLAH and i was wondering if i could get to know you..

OR u could try other things.. i havnt apprach for a while... workin on a LTR...

just keep practing and keep reading guy

props for making the attempt
 

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lol... yea I'm around the same area, more like 20-30 minutes from the city tho in essex/passaic county, there are hella malls around here man... easy... and it's not the rarity you make it out to be, maybe just the people who hang out with, me and my friends have been picking up girls at malls since high school...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Don't be so hard on yourself. At least you approached, which is a lot more than the keyboard jockeys here do. Just learn from the experience and think of what you can do to improve your game for the next time.

Like tonight at a bowling alley, I approached a 3 set just for sh1ts and giggles. I wasn't expecting it to go anywhere, because they were acting like attention *****s, but I did it for the experience. It didn't go anywhere, but I still had a lot of fun, and now I have a story to tell my buddies.
 

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If you become more attractive it doesn't matter that much what you say. I recommend working on that, so women will be glad you approach them and are very open and receptive to you. Instead of just throwing yourself into a lot of cold approaches while you are really sketchy. Talk to more women in your social circle, so you learn to become cool and relaxed first.
I really dont like the idea of coming across insistent and needy cause women dont like that. I want them to be glad that a guy like me wants to talk to them. And you can make that happen by improving yourself (improving your character, body and style).
 

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I'm telling u guys, no one I know approaches girls. I donno. I was with my friend at the mall and we were standing there starring at these two girls with our mouths open. We then realised we were checking out the same girls. Then he blurted out the greatest one liner ever to me,,,"I wish I could like pay them 5 dollars to like say hi to me". He's not afc, dosent approach girls like anyone else I know.
 

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BBX said:
I'm telling u guys, no one I know approaches girls. I donno. I was with my friend at the mall and we were standing there starring at these two girls with our mouths open. We then realised we were checking out the same girls. Then he blurted out the greatest one liner ever to me,,,"I wish I could like pay them 5 dollars to like say hi to me". He's not afc, dosent approach girls like anyone else I know.
Exactly. People you know don't do it, but it still happens. There are a lot of people in the world you don't know ;)
 

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Randomer said:
lol... yea I'm around the same area, more like 20-30 minutes from the city tho in essex/passaic county, there are hella malls around here man... easy... and it's not the rarity you make it out to be, maybe just the people who hang out with, me and my friends have been picking up girls at malls since high school...

Haha, i live in Bergen County. Garden State Plaza=Best place to pick up girls
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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