Yet Another Journal Thread (Mind Body Soul)

[Mind_Body_Soul]

So I've recently begun to engross myself in improving this aspect of my life and I wanted to start a thread so I can keep track of my learning experience.

As with all journals, I hope someone will gain from this.

If you want some background info on my last "relationship", read the following post

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=118045

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Date last night with M

Got a MySpace message the other day (the 9th of feb) from a girl we'll call M

I was searching for one of my friends from school and your picture caught my eye. I just wanted to let u know.....your very sexy!

~M~

If I had a dollar for every time a girl tries to justify messaging a guy by saying she was looking for her friend on MySpace I'd have at least 5 bucks.

I replied

Hello M - if that is your real name. You know I'm tired of all these women thinking I'm just some sex object. I'm more than just a pretty face - I've got feelings too

But since your profile is private, I will never know if you are a real person or just one of those porn ads. Don't reply with a URL for me to go to so that we can chat in "private". I'm not falling for that one again...

If you ARE REAL send me a friend request.

Patrick.

she replied with

Hello Patrick!

Haha! Of course my real name is M. I never lie but I do joke a lot. I sent you a friend request so you can see that yes, I am a 100% real person! So what's the story with the porn ads??? You know what, I don't even want to know. Eh... welllll....maybe, haha! Now listen I have to warn you my profile is in working progress, just so you know. I'm working on putting up pictures where I'm not extremly drunk (zoobangaz). Those pictures are really bad but one really fun night..... ahhh good times! I think I'm putting up some more recent pictures tomorrow after I get off work. Depends on what time my friends from school get back from NYC tomorrow night.

~M~

I replied with to get her AIM

MARIAAAAAA! Hablas espanol? Espero que si o no vas a entender esto. Tu eres GHETTOOOOO no? Hahah, no soy ghetto, pero esta bien. Tu bebes mucho no? Yo ----- algunas veces

Entonces tienes AIM? Quiero charlar contigo.

Patrick.

She replies...

Haha! Si, hablo espanol. Ghetto?!! Yo soy Ghetto. Soy de Flemington, NJ ( Es un area rica). Las personas que he encontrado aqui en PA son MUY Ghetto, lol. Ellos me llaman "White Girl" simplemente porque ellos piensan que actuo blanco.

How's my Spanish? You know I think it's hot that you know Spanish. In all seriousness, I'm not Ghetto! I grew up in Flemington, which is a primarily rich area. Average house hold income in Hunterdon County is 80k. Look it up if you don't believe me. I was like the darkest person in my county, lol. When I moved out here....MAJOR culture shock. Oh and in regards to drinking. I really don't drink all that much. I've drank twice since I've been out here. Oh wait, haha, three times. My student advisor took me out once, lol!

Here's my aol sn: XXXXX

~Talk to you soon Patrick!~

~M~

Take note that in all her messages she is trying to qualify herself.

So anyways - not that you care about all those msgs but I may want to review them in the past and it may help some rAFCs learn C+F which I used to some extent.

So I got her AIM, set up a date to meet for coffee last night.

Last night it was snowing pretty crazy but we decide to meet up anyways - I show up ON TIME and I get a text from her as I'm arriving saying "I'm just leaving now." (so she would be about 10 mins late)

Now I can't stand tardiness, so I replied to her text with "You're Fired."

She replies with

After 10 mins - I send her a message that says "Oh, and you are paying." She arrives shortly after and comes in with a little bit of a sneer on her face - like she's a princess or some B.S.

I say OK let's get coffee and as we're walking to the counter she says "Are you serious that I have to pay?"

I said yeah - you're late and being punished.

* Thanks to Vulpine and some others for teaching this punishment reward scenario.

So she pays and I swear - after that, she was like a well behaved dog. We had great small talk, she was very intelligent, not to mention cute. Spanish looking which is my preference.

I grab her phone and start looking through her photos and I send a few to myself. She's like OH then I get to do the same. So she grabs my phone and I say "I don't think you should do that" (I had lots of photos from all the girls I have been dating including some images of girls in their underwear and other stuff)

She's like "WOW" you sure have a lot of girls in here." I said yep.

We talk a little bit, she asks me questions about myself such as

"What do you do?" to which I reply "This and that."

She commented on how "vague" I am. (VERY GOOD SIGN)

Anyways there was good chemistry. After an hour, I said OK PEACE OUT and started to get up. We walk out and I hold out my hand to shake hers, she goes for it and I pull it away and say "PSHHHH yeah right CYA" and start to walk away.

Then I turn around and say "Well.... OK, and shake her hand and then give her a hug. I start to grab the back of her neck and pull her head towards mine and she pulls away and is like OHHH NO and she is like "I'll talk to you later" and I say "PEACE"

So I'm thinking, hmm.... I wonder if all the girls in my phone might have turned her off or made her think I'm a player. Then I was like - oh yeah I am a player she has to get over it. So I'm driving home keep in mind there is a ton of snow. I get a text from her

I had fun. we should do it again soon. call me when u get home so i know u got home safe

So I realize immediately that she's into me BUT is not gonna let me kiss her on first date because she's gonna play "the game" with me. Perhaps she isn't actually playing a game but just being "hard to get". That's fine.

So I get home, but I don't call her. I just send her a text that says

Home.

I tried to apply something that blueguy or another person said in my other post about saying too much removes the mystery. I'm calling this night a success.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

I swear, when it rains, it pours. At least it seems so with women. Anyways, I get back last night from my date with M, and there is an AIM on my screen from R (of http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=118045 fame)

The last thing I said to R was that we were to have NO communication. If you read the above link you will see why.

Anyways, the message read as follows:

R (8:24:19 PM): i'm so sorry...but...it's imperative that i contact you. 2 reasons. A. Happy Birthday. B. Lucky Louie came out on DVD this week..and it got cancelled.

Now, she had said happy birthday to me the night before and my interpretation of this is that she was just looking for a reason to message me. Seeing that I am moving on with my life and no longer care where this goes, I just replied to her on text saying yeah, I already rented the DVDs and laughed my ass off. She replies with a :-O. Then I stop messaging her.

Also - last night, I get a MySpace from this HB I had messaged a day prior.

I sent out this: we'll call her J

Snowboarding rocks! Do you go around here? I'm leaving to ride in Spain on Friday - can't wait.

J, you sound like an interesting person. I read over your interests and I think we would click so read over my profile and send me a message. Tell me something unique and exciting about yourself that I wouldn't find in your profile.

And hey - if you ever wanna go snowboarding for free... I get comp lift tickets at Camelback

Patrick.

The reply was

hey it think your right ! let me know when you get back from spain cause ill definatelly take you up on the camelback offer! ive only been to blue. im just starting so it ll be more like you waiting at the bottom for me to arrive way later with a few new bruises!

i sound like who you have in your "who youd like to meet" description, not to be ****y or anything just telling the truth. except for the smarter than who i date - thats a definate truth so far but will have to see if it holds true for you mr. software developer. i just own my own business.

as for the something you wouldnt learn from my page--- plenty but you have to meet me to find them out
fair enough???
J.

Notice how she is already qualifying herself. She's telling me she "owns her own business" and that she's smarter than I am. LMAO. I'm sensing some possible insecurities in this one, but will have to wait till I get back to determine if that's the truth.

Little does she know I also own my own business. However, I will not reveal this to her, she'll have to discover it on her own.

Peace out players.

 

[azanon]

That looks great on paper, MBS, but I hope it never appeared like you were trying too hard. I think maybe it is possible to be a little too smooth at the whole player thing. You were wearing a dint-free armor on that one, and not a hole in sight for her to stick a claw in. If i was her I'd be wondering what is his greatest interest; me or just playing a game and trying to win it.

But obviously that's far better than having no game at all, or poor game.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

That looks great on paper, MBS, but I hope it never appeared like you were trying too hard. I think maybe it is possible to be a little too smooth at the whole player thing. You were wearing a dint-free armor on that one, and not a hole in sight for her to stick a claw in. If i was her I'd be wondering what is his greatest interest; me or just playing a game and trying to win it.

But obviously that's far better than having no game at all, or poor game.

Azanon - I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Can you explain a bit more?

EDIT: I think I see what you're saying. I don't think I came off as a player, I just posted the relevant info here. I mean obviously there was your average boring banter as well. But feel free to correct me if you see any problems in my game.

 

[azanon]

Azanon - I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Can you explain a bit more?

EDIT: I think I see what you're saying. I don't think I came off as a player, I just posted the relevant info here. I mean obviously there was your average boring banter as well. But feel free to correct me if you see any problems in my game.

I'm just saying just be cautious about not being so smooth and perfected, that it has the effect of being intimidating. I'm basically saying i saw no flaws at all in your game, and if anything, maybe that's a flaw?

Don't take me wrong, I think your game is awesome, especially for your age. I wouldnt be quite so playful myself with someone else mainly because i'm 35. But for your age, with a similar aged woman, it looked pretty good to me and age appropriate.

 

[blueguy]

After an hour, I said OK PEACE OUT and started to get up. We walk out and I hold out my hand to shake hers, she goes for it and I pull it away and say "PSHHHH yeah right CYA" and start to walk away.

Then I turn around and say "Well.... OK, and shake her hand and then give her a hug. I start to grab the back of her neck and pull her head towards mine and she pulls away and is like OHHH NO and she is like "I'll talk to you later" and I say "PEACE"

This has happened to me too recently on another date. It's likely because of your earlier withdraw. She is playing hard to get since you haven't revealed your interest and wants to be careful.

I have a myspace profile too. Those myspace girls can be crazy. Even some of the attractive ones you'd think have game say the most AFC things (as you said) qualifying themselves in the messages. I'm thinking girls on myspace tend to be more AFC I'm noticing. Stuff like, "you barely even know me!" haha. Yep, being vague ALWAYS works - making them dig for it. It's great because after awhile you get these random text messages, "hey, what are you doing?" because they're just dying to figure you out!

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Valentine's Day

So yesterday was V-Day. I don't have any LTRs at the moment so was planning on sitting home, doing some reading, maybe watch Jarhead on DVD since it's been sitting on my desk for a week.

Anyways, I get a call from my ex LTR, we'll call her B. B (HB8) was definitely the longest relationship I've ever had - 2.5 years about. Also the best relationship I've had. We've been good friends even after I broke up with her, but she's still in love with me.

Well it's been snowing like crazy here so B wants me to come over and have a snowball fight. I don't think it's a good idea because she really needs to move on, but she begs me and I succumb (I know I know, a man should say NO but I wanted to see her). On the way over I pick up a little bear and some breathsavers at the supermarket (only thing open). I put them in a mug and give them to her as a V-Day token. I didn't have to but hey, I can be nice at times.

So a few interesting things happened. We were talking about male female dynamics (a common discussion for us and yea she knows about the community). I asked her what she thought about grand displays of affection early on. She said that the reason girls hate them is because they want to feel like they've EARNED affection. She said that when a guy does those things before he even knows the girl - the girl doesn't understand how the guy can like her so much already and it's a big turn off. It's CONFUSING for them and they want the guy to be CHALLENGING. (sound familiar??)

She told me this story of one time she was at the beach. She met the most beautiful man she's ever seen. She said he was absolutely gorgeous, she even ran back to her hotel, put on a skimpy bikini, wet her hair, and came back. However, after talking to him for a while, she discovered that he was like a super-wuss. He was just way too into her way too quickly. She stopped talking to him, never hooked up with him, etc.

What does this say? It says that LOOKS take a much lower precedence than ACTIONS/PERSONALITY.

The second interesting thing which came up... we got into the jacuzzi and we're just talking, we go up to her bedroom and we're making out and whatnot. I start feeling her tits and she's giving some LMR saying that she won't let me use her as a sex object. She says "No, you're not allowed to touch me there (referring to her boobs and pu$$y)." I respond very seductively, "But, I'm going to anyways..."

I started thinking about the one thread started recently about choking and decide I'm gonna give this girl something new. So I start by grabbing her on the back of the neck (hairline) and moving her head around as I start fingering her. I move to the front of her neck in a light choking fashion, she starts moaning. I grab harder and start fingering her more forcefully. She starts moaning my name and cums in about 1 minute flat. :rockon:

Anyways - that was my V-DAY. Going to use the choking more often now.

 

[bigjohnson]

She said he was absolutely gorgeous, she even ran back to her hotel, put on a skimpy bikini, wet her hair, and came back.

Bottom line - looks counted for something. He was just a complete loser, and looks can't FIX EVERYTHING. Anyway, sorry. I don't want that bleeding over to your journal unless that's what you want.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

bigjohnson - looks definitely count for something (don't want to get into this discussion in here...) but personality has a more powerful effect if it was able to counter her super physical attraction.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Greetings from Spain

What´s up everyone? So I´m here on vacation in Spain (actually Andorra but staying in Barcelona as well), snowboarding and trying to get some R&R in. I have to admit, my game does not seem to be on. I´m not sure what the problem is.

So I speak Spanish fairly fluently and have been chatting with enough people. Trying to be open and positive with the women, but I seem to be getting the cold shoulder. Part of the problem is that the town where we are staying is geared towards an older crowd. It literally SHUTS DOWN at 9 o´clock. The only hunting grounds are the hotel bars and 99% of the people here are over 40. In my hotel I have seen about 4 or 5 other people my own age, half of which are dudes, one is chunky, and the other one I chatted up for a bit at the bar one night, but she was a group leader and couldn´t talk for long. I have been mackin on the older chics but they´re all here with husbands and sh1t.

Despite these setbacks, I´m not really bummed. I´m focusing on the positive aspects of this place and having a great time riding and just being in the European culture. I have met a ton of people from different countries and cultures. I got completely wasted with some brits the other night. Hung out with some portuguese for a while, been hitchhiking all over, got picked up by a group of 3 girls (but was too wasted to remember if they were even cute), and overall having a great time.

If I get laid while here, that´s great, but if not, oh well. I´ve got plenty waiting at home so a break isn´t so bad.

I´m gonna go travelling the countryside now and hopefully will meet some interesting people.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Yesterday went well.

It started with the hotel gym. I´ve been working out at the same time every night and saw the same faces. This one cute girl I had said hi to before, but she was on a bike so I never really chatted her up. Anyways she was doing crunches when I was leaving so I said hi again and asked her her name. Samantha. I asked her where she was from, Chile. So I´m chatting her up making her laugh etc. just basically learning about her culture, what brought her to spain etc. I really do take an interest in these things. So she´s flushed, her face is all red. Turns out she has a husband anyways.

Later on that night...

It started out in the hotel bar, I noticed a cute girl getting a drink. She was with one of the groups that are skiing here in Spain. She goes and sits down with a group of people my age. I had already met the one guy so I went and invited myself to sit down (next to the cute one). We´re drinkin san gria and telling funny stories and I´m doing c&f on the girl.

We all decide to go to a local pub and continue the evening. We get there and I´m playin foosball with some of the dudes, bustin on the girl and also dancin with her a bit, drinkin, playin pool, etc. The girl keeps telling me how mean I am and slapping me in the stomach playfully (classic DD)

She´s bein a little hoe and dancin around with every dude there, mostly the ones in their group, I´m not sure if she´s an attention hor, but it seemed like it. I got the impression that she was a goody goody girl based on her stories and now that she´s away from home she´s being bad. Whatever...

I see a group of about 10 spanish chicks, some cute, some not. I go over and say hi and get the cold shoulder as always, but was positive and walked away to go play pool with my friends - upping my social value in their eyes I imagine.

Later on that evening one of the girls in the spanish group comes up to me and says "my friends want to take a picture with you in it" (I´m a good looking guy but I dress pretty well and had that foreign look going for me) so we´re taking photos and dancing around and I´m flirting with all the spanish girls. The one girl was being a pimp and telling me about all the single girls in the group that were "looking for boyfriends". They weren´t the cutest girls in the world but alcohol is the ultimate cosmetic.

Well the cute girl from the ski group must have gotten jealous from all the attention I was getting, because she started grabbin on me, puttin her leg up around me, etc. we start dancing provocatively and I just start kissing her. She says "are you this good without the music on?" pretty straightforward.

Anyways, I wish the story went on, but we left shortly thereafter then and sorta split up. I probably should have isolated her at the point she asked about being good without the music on, and just led her back to my room which was just down the street. I sorta got the impression she was a ****tease (as she was acting "slutty" with every guy but I´m the only one that got physical with her. Possibly that´s just my justification for not fvcking her.

I´ve been focusing on all the good things I´ve gained from this trip. Everyone has been commenting on how social I am and all the new people I´ve met. Every day they ask me at dinner what new people from what countries I encountered. So yeah, I didn`t get laid yet, but I think my game has improved, which will help stateside.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Boredom.

I am BORED by women right now. I can't stand it. They are all the same. Fvcking predictable. I don't even have the drive to close the plates I have spinning because I don't see a point. To get off? I guess.

It's as if I can predict the interractions that are going to happen before they occur. It's BORING. Meet girl, go on "dates", build attraction, fvck, move on.

I want to find someone challenging, beautiful, and intelligent that enjoys the same things I do - is that too much to ask for? SH1T. Maybe that's what we're all looking for.

I've been reading a lot of Gunwitch's stuff recently. It makes a lot of sense, but I'm not sure if I have the game to pull it off. Practice makes perfect and this shall be my new challenge. I can't stand putting a female into date mode.

Perhaps immediate sex will be more gratifying than my current cycle of meet date fvck. Gunwitch says that sex comes first and then the relationship. What is fvcking dating but a buildup to a relationship? It's like pre-relationship B.S.

This post seems pessimistic but my life is actually going great right now. Work fvcking rocks, tons of extra curricular activities going on, and a lot of plates spinning. They are all just boring.

This one b1tch - I call her last night to setup a date to go snowboarding. She crashed her car and I'm bustin on her about it. She's getting pi$$ed off and tells me she has to go and that she'll call me later. I just say "CYA" and hangup. At 12:30 (midnight) she sends me a text "Hey are you still up?" She probably waited that long before texting me to see if I'd call her back and be a pu$$Y. That sh1t woke me up. I'm thinking - if I reply to this I'm gonna say "YEAH, I'M UP NOW YOU FVCKING B1TCH THANKS FOR WAKING ME UP!" So I ignored it and don't plan on contacting her again. She'll call today and want to go snowboarding, we'll go, and I'll take her back to my place and bang her (haven't closed this one yet). What's the point? I don't see this girl as anything why bother.

I forget the poster, but it was one of the mature forum posters that basically had a huge list of things that he would NEXT for. His goal was to find a LTR. Perhaps that's my goal? Perhaps I'm having a caffeine dump and feeling like crap.

Peace out b1tches.

 

[kyphan]

I feel the same way, MBS. I cannot say I've been on dates with tons of women since breaking up with my ex-gf in the fall, but of the ones I've been on only one girl REALLY held my interest - and she's bogged down by work, thus ending that pursuit. Heck, after three dates I realized all I wanted this other girl for was sex. Oh sure, she was fun to be around, that's it though. There was nothing about her in terms of personality that made me desperate to give her another call.

My ex-gf and I were opposites in a number of ways (some of which are the reasons I left her, it was not going to last) - yet it was fun being around her. We had some similar interests and found ways to enjoy just being together.

Focus on your life and when you find a woman that's worth it then go for it. That's what I try to do. I don't care if I'm seeing five women or one at once, it does not affect me since my life is all about what I want to do. Women do not compete with each other for me - they have to compete with my friends, my job, my interests, and my desire to have space. Enjoy it, man. Someday you'll probably find a girl that's worth it, and the whole single thing will be gone forever.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Yeah, I know. It's national caffeine awareness month and I was celebrating with a bunch of sugarfree monster and posting on the forum like a madman. The caffeine high turned into a slump and was posting in a sort of low.

I am a contradiction. I want a girl that will complement my lifestyle and augment it, but on the same note, I can't commit. I get bored. I think I have relationship ADD.

The problem is I find myself getting very into a relationship initially and then getting sick of it. My friend who is a pretty big alpha says that he LOVES falling in LOVE, and then gets sick of the girl. I am an endorphin junky. That's the problem. I just like neurotransmitters, seretonin, chemicals, etc. Whether they are released by working out, drinkning coffee, mountain climbing, fvcking, "falling in love". It doesn't matter to me.

I think this is a problem. I'm perhaps a bit too focused on myself?

 

[kyphan]

Maybe you're not ready for a relationship with a woman. My best friend is 24 and it's clear as can be that he's not ready for settling down. He goes in between having a girlfriend and having five women hanging off him, and he knows he's not ready for anything really serious.

The other thought I had - when I was younger I felt relationships were simpler. Expectations were so much lower, I just wanted to have fun with someone and actually have a sex life. When I look at the big picture, marriage, kids, the house and living forever with someone, I become downright picky. I should be, and so should you. It's easy to find a girlfriend, and it can be difficult finding one that's worth it.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Don't put up with B.S.

Interesting little thing came up this evening. I had a date planned with one of the plates I'm spinning, we'll call her M. We were supposed to meet up for pool this evening, but yesterday she says that she may not be able to make it because she's applying for a job and she may have to work tonight.

I told her, OK, I think it's great that you're getting a job just let me know when you find out whether you have work or not. Anyways, she didn't let me know so I made other plans and went out with a buddy and met a cute girl got her #. Actually, I forgot all about M. Then this evening, I'm sitting on AIM chatting with my business partner and low and behold, an AIM from M... I'd like to get your critique on how I handled the situation.

M: hey
MBS: thanks for letting me know your plans
MBS: i don't tolerate disrespect, but it was nice meeting you
M: i came online to let you know lastnight. u have all the right to be mad but i did let u know the other day that i might have to work tonight if i got this job. your right i should have called u to let you know today but i'm not gonna lie i did forget and i'm very sorry about that.
M: how about i make it up to u...i'll take u out and it'll be on me. I promise this will never happen again
MBS: fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. ok, know that if it happens again, that will be it
M: your cute when ur mad
M: lol
M: i promise
MBS: what are you doing sunday afternoon
M: it will never happen again
M: i'm going home this weekend
MBS: ok - we'll talk next week and setup a time
M: wait. where u going?
MBS: ?
M: lol. u always rush off
M: i like talking to u
M: tell me about ur trip
MBS: i don't like talking on aim - i'll talk to you next week in person
M: ok
MBS: have a nice weekend M
M: but i work during the week just so u know
MBS: ok princess well how about this - when you have a day free, let me know
M: so it'll prob be next weekend
MBS: and i'm glad you're working fyi
M: aww thanks ur so sweet
M: i'm glad i'm working too
MBS: i told you - i need a sugar mama
M: oh really?
MBS: i hope you took a managerial position to provide me the lavish lifestyle i demand
M: for u i'll become the ceo to trump
M: lol
MBS: anyways - when you know your schedule, let me know what days you have off and we'll arrange something, good evening
M: i'll hook u up with a nice car...how next tuesday?
M: lol
M: i work monday to friday 6pm to 9pm

I didn't reply to those last messages, just signed off. I'm sure she's a flaky girl, but I have no issues walking away if she does it again so I feel that I handled the situation pretty well.

 

[STR8UP]

So I'm thinking, hmm.... I wonder if all the girls in my phone might have turned her off or made her think I'm a player. Then I was like - oh yeah I am a player she has to get over it.

I was almost ready to say "No such thing, a woman will want you MORE in this scenario" but I thought about it and realized that if she's lukewarm it might not be such a good idea to let her think she's only one of a hundred. If she has a good amount of attraction for you it isn't gonna hurt at all, you just have to call it on a case by case basis.

Like the other night....this chick has been sweatin' me for a LOOOONG time now. Bumped into her saturday night at a club with some of my other friends. She saw me walk in with five hot chicks, then a few minutes later three more girls I know joined me. I had two conversations going at the same time with the chick that likes me and the hottest girl of the group that just walked in.

The chick that likes me kept making references to me being a player, along with giving the hot chick the DEATH stare. I swear, I though I saw laser beams coming out of her eyes. Didn't stop her from basically propositioning me several more times the rest of the night. In this situation it doesn't hurt for them to know they have competition.

Sometimes I make it a point to pull out my laptop if I know a chick has enough interest in me. If they DO have enough interest in me chances are I have pics of her or of the two of us on the computer. But I also have pictures of me with dozens of other women that I have to scroll through to get to the ones of her.

Bottom line- let her know she has to fight for you, but don't bring it on too strong too soon or at best it's gonna look like you are showing off, at worst she might not like you enough to want to fight for you.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Bottom line- let her know she has to fight for you, but don't bring it on too strong too soon or at best it's gonna look like you are showing off, at worst she might not like you enough to want to fight for you.

Agreed. The girl that went through my phone is M from the recent AIM conversation posted. She's going to be taking me out and paying so apparently it didn't have too much of an effect on her. Besides, she's hispanic and those girls love drama.

 

[Mind_Body_Soul]

Approaches Last Night

My buddy and I went to the mall last night and we're shoppin around. I wanted to get the new cologne by jean-paul gaultier (Le Male) and picked up some other crap. While we're there, I remember that there is a girl from online that I was supposed to snowboard with this Sunday that works at PacSun. We haven't met in person yet.

I think - OK, let's go in there and see if she recognizes me. So we walk in the girl entrance and she was right in front organizing Ts. She's like "Are you guys shopping for girl's clothes?" we're like "No." she's like "Well you are on the wrong side." We're like "Yeah that's OK, we'll walk around in the back." (She still hasn't recognized me). So I get some Ts and leave. She wasn't as cute as her pics so I said fvck it.

Then we went over to Best Buy and I'm walking around the computer area because I wanted to get a new flat panel monitor. I find the one I like and go up to this cute, HB7 sales associate. The first thing she says to me "Are you a model?" I'm like... "PSHHH NO!"

She had some nice T+A going. I tell her I want to get a monitor, she says 'Do you know which one you want?" I said, "No, I was gonna let you pick one out for me... duh yeah I know which one I want." So we're flirting and I'm bustin her balls. She has glasses (the trendy kind that emo kids wear) and has trouble seeing the codes on the boxes to get me one off the shelves. I say to her "You need to get some glasses that work instead of these trendy emo ones". She's slappin my arm and stuff. She comes down from the movable stairs with the monitor and I grab it from her before she gets all the way down saying "You better hand that to me I'm not sure if you can see the stairs".

Anyways she's ringing me up and I'm using my debit card and she starts telling me how to use the machine. I stop what I'm doing and look up at her slowly and say "ARE YOU SERIOUS??" I mean it says what to do right on the screen. She's all "OH well we get people in here that have never used their debit card, blah blah blah" I'm like hey I might be a model but I'm not dumb. I make a zoolander face.

(I should have # closed right here)

My buddy and I walk around some more. he's looking for a washer dryer or something. He says I need to close the girl (what a good wing). I'm feelin a bit of close anxiety because I hesitated initially and now it looks like I was too nervous to ask her initially, but I walked up to her and say "Give me your #" she says "Why?" I say, "Are you serious? So I can call you GAWD". She says "Give me your #" I say, "No. Give me yours." she says "Why wont' you give me yours?" I say "Because that's not how I work" and I get out my phone and she gives me her #. I busted on her a bit more and we left.

I know the story was long winded but I like visualizing these things again to solidify the good experiences in my head.