****y and Funny Outdated?

[desire247]

Ok, so I was looking up information about David DeAngelo on Wikipedia because I just purchased his audio series on ****y comedy. Well on the site It says that there is another concept called "playfull and confident" which is a Dutch concpet that is supose to be the new thing to replace ****y comedy. The site where the concept is take from is http://dutchseduction.com/showthread.php?t=1501&highlight=playful/

Has anyone ever heard of this, seen, or used it in the field? I've been coming to this site for 2 years and never heard of this concept. Also, what are some opinions on David DeAngelo? I'm not sure what it is but sometimes he comes off as kinda of a scam artist who is just trying to take advantage of the seduction comunity. All his products tend to be expensive and he doesn't seem as genuine as lets say Mystery and his methods. I could be wrong.

 

[SinJester]

Hahaha sorry I just has to laugh at you saying 'not as genuine as Mystery', the guy who uses paid girls in bootcamps and actors in his show. David DeAngelo is a marketer, a businessman by trade. It doesn't mean his stuff isn't any good, it is highly respected.

In my opinion c/f and playfull and confident are the same thing. It is just the wording. c/f is only bad when it is used wrong, and you get all these n00bs being arrogant pricks. David D still means for it to be playfull. It's more about the energy behind it than the words.

I like David D, if you don't then stick with your opinion. That's not to say this 'new' playfull confident thing isn't good.

 

[Yahooey]

The concept looks like a revised version of C&F meant to address some of the excesses that appears to be common with those starting with C&F. The name being given to this even reflects this - milder synonyms. ****y is sign of confidence, and Funny is supposed to be playful and teasing.

From what I have seen/heard of David DeAngelo's stuff, it is professional and genuine. Mystery's materials are less well packaged and probably even more expensive. Mystery does address outer game more and specific tactics (especially for Night Life Cold Approach) while DD is more strategic.

One final note: While I use Wikipedia frequently, I would be wary of an entry like this. "Niche" subjects can easily be edited by the self-serving.

 

[ready123]

how the fvck would C&F become outdated? did humans suddenly evolve and no longer respond to behavior patterns that work?

stop focusing on flavor of the week products and figure out why these techniques work. then you'll see that half of these products are the same basic concepts, just different names for marketing purposes

 

[schttrj]

ok, i will say as much i understand. i certainly agree with the other guys that C/F was in, C/F is in and C/F will most probably be in.... you know why, because it is not a technique, but it is the normal day to day convo that we have with anybody to create that chemistry.

Just get it right and you would have instant chemistry with the girls! ****y sounds like you must be arrogant and funny sounds like you must be a joker, but no, it is the combination that works.

And you know what, I call it. Busting on the person or giving them a hard playful time! That is what works.

 

[My Name is Nobody]

****y and funny will NEVER die.

Negs on the other hand, I have learned the hard way they are not a good idea.

 

[schttrj]

****y and funny will NEVER cease to work.. it's the magic pill.

Negs on the other hand, I have learned the hard way they are not a good idea.

negs should be used very carefully, from first hand experience, and only when you are familiar to the person a bit and always in a good way. it's not like taunting someone but rather showing that she is not upto the standards in some aspect.

 

[SinJester]

I agree with schttrj and ready123. The seduction community undergoes phases and fads just like anything else. Just because something is 'out of fasion' doesn't mean it wont work any more, it just isn't the 'in thing' on forums and blogs.

I love c/f. I don't think "not to use c/f line 343" it is just something I do naturally. It's a part of me, a part of who I am and a part However I don't think I would do it if I hadn't found out about it here. It fits me though. For me it is a lot more natural than using using 'Mytsery Method' and receiting canned lines.

I was busting on a girl tonight with what some people might even consider over the top and she ended up asking for my number. But it was actually funny, and playfull.

The thing is c/f wont suit some people, people who aren't funny and who are awkward. They just really need to work on their social skills first.

Negs work but people sometime confuse negs with insults, there's a differance. It should always be playfull, and light. It's called flirting.

EDIT: c/f funny is NOT a magic pill. It's about as close to being a magic pill as anything is. By the time you are using it effectively it will be on layers of other suff. I'm just saying that it wont work when it's awkward and your just starting with it if it doesn't come naturally for you.

 

[My Name is Nobody]

negs should be used very carefully, from first hand experience, and only when you are familiar to the person a bit and always in a good way. it's not like taunting someone but rather showing that she is not upto the standards in some aspect.

Yeah, I decided to try negs out on a plate and I don't think it worked too well. I mean, she still came over and shagged, so who knows what effect they had. But, eventually I never heard from her again out of the blue... She left my place one morning and seemed happy, and it's like she died.

She was a little slut anyway and she had an AFC boyfriend who called her 20 times a week. No wonder she cheated.

Poor b@stard... She probably is still stringing him along and he has no idea his girl is a slut. I bet most young women are like this.

 

[SinJester]

Ok just wanted to throw in one more comment.

****y and funny works because:

1. It shows confidence, which is basically universly agreed to be attractive.
2. It is FUN, it has an upbeat vibe that everyone can enjoy.
3. It makes her FEEL which is always a good thing.
4. You show that you aren't intimidated by her looks.
5. You demonstrate higher value.
6. You seperate yourself from other guys.
7. You show you wont supplicate, once again DHV.

However it isn't that complicated and shouldn't be used as a technique or forced. If it doesn't work it can also say more about the girl that you.

Agree?

 

[My Name is Nobody]

Ok just wanted to throw in one more comment.

****y and funny works because:

1. It shows confidence, which is basically universly agreed to be attractive.
2. It is FUN, it has an upbeat vibe that everyone can enjoy.
3. It makes her FEEL which is always a good thing.
4. You show that you aren't intimidated by her looks.
5. You demonstrate higher value.
6. You seperate yourself from other guys.
7. You show you wont supplicate, once again DHV.

However it isn't that complicated and shouldn't be used as a technique or forced. If it doesn't work it can also say more about the girl that you.

Agree?

Agreed.. C and F will get you laid... there is no doubt about it.

 

[comic_relief]

Ok just wanted to throw in one more comment.

****y and funny works because:

1. It shows confidence, which is basically universly agreed to be attractive.
2. It is FUN, it has an upbeat vibe that everyone can enjoy.
3. It makes her FEEL which is always a good thing.
4. You show that you aren't intimidated by her looks.
5. You demonstrate higher value.
6. You seperate yourself from other guys.
7. You show you wont supplicate, once again DHV.

However it isn't that complicated and shouldn't be used as a technique or forced. If it doesn't work it can also say more about the girl that you.

Agree?

agreed, great post. rep

comic_relief

 

[gtownjuan]

I think im going over the fence with C/F now. I was flirting with my neighbor, HB7 and the C/f was really working good for start. But kinda withered out and forced her to leave. You guys, personally know any articles that clears up the right practice of C/f. The hard way ism't that nice so i'm calling for backup.

 

[My Name is Nobody]

I think im going over the fence with C/F now. I was flirting with my neighbor, HB7 and the C/f was really working good for start. But kinda withered out and forced her to leave. You guys, personally know any articles that clears up the right practice of C/f. The hard way ism't that nice so i'm calling for backup.

yeah man, don't over do the C+F. I made that mistake recently and got dumped and her reason was because I acted "too confident"

I started a thread about it awhile ago.. just know where to draw the line and stop being C+F.

 

[gtownjuan]

yeah man, don't over do the C+F. I made that mistake recently and got dumped and her reason was because I acted "too confident"

I started a thread about it awhile ago.. just know where to draw the line and stop being C+F.

Learning to do so, slowly and painfully....

 

[My Name is Nobody]

Learning to do so, slowly and painfully....

good.. I was such a moron.. her Uncle DIED and I texted her with C+F.. LOL, what was I thinking.

 

[B Love]

I think what desire means about mystery being more genuine is that he breaks down the dynamics of opening sets and handling issue that may come up while talking to girls and sets in general. Also, It seems as like DeAngelo is Attractive naturally because he is a rich real estate broker. Mystery gives the impression that he came from the trenches like us and relies soley on his game.

 

[schttrj]

i dont know mystery personally but he surely laid out the dating game as a science which i like very much. can't say about david though.

 

[Axcell]

good.. I was such a moron.. her Uncle DIED and I texted her with C+F.. LOL, what was I thinking.

Haha, timing is everything. I remember using a ****y+funny statement about how restaurant owners make practically no money. Turns out her parents owned a restaurant, the rest of the story is self explanatory. :crackup: