"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Xmas presents for GF's.

PeterCrouch

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Struggling for ideas for xmas presents for a pretty serious nearly 3 month relationship. although weve known each other for 5.

She's into the normal girly stuff, Diamonds, Disney, Pillows, Animal prints etc.

Were off on holiday with each other a week or so before xmas, and wont be spending xmas day together because of family stuff, but I intend to give what ever I get for her on holiday or the day we get back, but not let her open it untill xmas day obviously.

A couple of ideas I have had so far from myself and others.

A disney pillow with a space for a photo on it. She has millions of pillows on her bed and loves them and I have seen disney pillows with a space for a photo to be slept on before.

The board game operation. Dont know if anyone knows what that is but she adores the game and told me a story of how she wanted it last year but never got it. So I could get her this. Obviously not as the main present but as part of it.

Someone said a diamond, but to be honest my thoughts are that is way to serious and also i know its something an ex of hers got her with 2 saphires and i dont want her remembering that so maybe a nice silver necklace.

Anyway, any ideas and stories of what they have got and done to there girlfriends before would be helpful.

Thanks.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PeterCrouch

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Also one other thing, I was thinking of asking one of her closet girlfriends for a bit of help. Do you suggest this?

Bearing in mind, I have never met any of her friends (For reasons I dont really wanna go into. Mainly because we got a little distracted when I was supposed to go meet them lol) so I would probably facebook them with a message or something.
 

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I think EVERYONE knows the game "Operation" lol.

I think you should ask her friends what she might like or what she loves but take it with a grain of salt. I think you should get her maybe pajama's you know the loose fitting one )not lingerie( with maybe a Disney princess. It's a good thing your not getting her a diamond because you barely know the women and a less serious gift is always preferable then an over the top gift. Good luck.
 

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I've been dating my g/f for about a month now and I went out today and bought her a bottle of lotion at Victoria's Secret for $9 and an incense kit (the kind you don't light) at Target for about $15 and I think even THAT may have been a little over the top. It's true that girls love getting presents, but you definitely don't need to go breaking the bank for all this.

DON'T get her diamonds. If you get her something expensive like that, sure, she'll be appreciative, but then she'll probably expect nicer things in the future. At 3 months into a relationship, I don't think you need to be getting her diamonds. Maybe at one year you could consider something like that.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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PeterCrouch

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She is 19. I'm 21. I'm not going to get her diamonds. What about a necklace?
 

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I think that would be ok, but once again, don't go breaking the bank on it. I got one of my old g/f's a necklace at about 5 months into the relationship. It was about $49, but it looked like it was pretty expensive. Does she have a birthday coming up?
 

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I'd give her a pat on the back and a breakup on dec 20 than when she cries and pleads for you not to go let her come back on dec 27 so the whole gift giving thing passes without you feeling so obligated. Then you can still go out for new years and you won't be a bad guy for dumping her on christmas. this is why i hate gift giving holidays. no dude wants to give presents. My favorite present is "you don't have to give me a present." Sweet.
 

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mrRuckus said:
My favorite present is "you don't have to give me a present." Sweet.
LOL. Well said.
 

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shes 19 and into pillows and disney?

when i was 19 my wish list contained one word .. vaccum.
i desperately needed one.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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