"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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WTF is wrong with this..

Noobie

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Ok, so I'm in university and everytime I go clubbing, there's always a new girl that I've met prior to the clubbing event (meaning we're friends beforehand - met at uni) that I dance with. As the night progresses, I eventually end up making out with her and the next day or even afterwards she'll be so cold to me and not talk to me anymore...

I don't understand... am I ruining their reputation...? It's not like I ever tell anyone that it happens.... neither am I looking for sex or a LTR... all i did was kiss her for a prolonged period/makeout... can someone explain why they are so cold to me afterwards..?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Noobie

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btw... i think it's because it's awkward apparently, but I don't understand how... I really need a third opinion on this... I'm too caught up that I can't think properly why..
 

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yeah after dating my girlfriend for a year i've gotten to know some of her friends and whenever they hook up with a guy they ignore him the rest of the semester because they think its awkward and they're embarrassed, only not.
 

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but why are they embarassed... is it wrong to makeout even when the conditions are right? What should I be doing instead... :S
 

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If you're not getting the results you want, mix it up.

If you've been making out w/a girl for an extended period of time on the dance floor, your goal should be to move her back to your room or hers, or at the very least get a number. There's no point otherwise.

If you just make out w/a girl and bounce, you haven't made it worthwhile for her to meet up w/you again. You haven't brought her into your world. You certainly haven't made her comfortable.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ok, first of all, not that I'm gay or anything but I'm not looking for a lay.... for reasons I won't say. However, a good time is what I'm looking for since exams are so stressful in uni and blah blah... anyways these people aren't one night people, they're pretty much my friends that I met a month ago that I keep it flirty with.

I guess my main point is that when I go clubbing I just want to have a good time by making out with girls that show interest in me but what actually happens is that they end up ignoring me afterwards. And I donno why....
 

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Noobie said:
ok, first of all, not that I'm gay or anything but I'm not looking for a lay.... for reasons I won't say. However, a good time is what I'm looking for since exams are so stressful in uni and blah blah... anyways these people aren't one night people, they're pretty much my friends that I met a month ago that I keep it flirty with.

I guess my main point is that when I go clubbing I just want to have a good time by making out with girls that show interest in me but what actually happens is that they end up ignoring me afterwards. And I donno why....
My advice still applies. Get their # and hang out!
 

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Noobie said:
but why are they embarassed... is it wrong to makeout even when the conditions are right? What should I be doing instead... :S
It's the slut label that they fear. No matter how the whole thing goes, the fact that she "hooked up" with a guy she just met is enough to make her feel guilty.

Depending on what you want you could do a couple of things.

If you want to date them, don't make out with them on the first encounter, just a few quick kisses and make sure you tell her that the reason you won't make out is because she's special and you want to wait. You just want to slip under the anti-slut radar.

If you just want to continue to hook up like this, well keep doing what you're doing.
 

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Basically, they feel cheap for doing what they did, but there are ways you can counter it. Mystery understands the psychology behind this. Do a forum search for 'buyers remorse"
 
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