"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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WTF, for a 1 y.o RAFC I sure get shot down a lot .

SageOFAllenAge

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Right, so after my 8 month LTR(1st gal), I was actually hopeful now that I was free to hit on chicks but Ive been getting a lot of turn downs infact thats all ive been getting since the past 4 months.

Im a 21 y.o old guy from India, on the looks scale im in the 6.5-7.5 range 5'9, 65 kgs ..just started working out since the past 3 months results are decent so far ...Im the sarcastic, witty kind of guy.

Problem is ..
I've asked about 9 girls out with the "I'd like to meet you, or lets meet up @ ___ line" but all Ive got is bull**** excuses so far telling me they cant make it.

Even done about 10 approaches albeit after some hesitation & got turned down there too.

Even after so many rejections Im holding up pretty well. But I want to seriously find out where Im going wrong & improve upon it. So help would be greatly appreciated.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Frank Zappa

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Don't worry about it man... Just Relax, and keep on doing what you're doing. The best batters in this game only hit 300. It's okay to lower your standards to get back on the wagon, but don't lower your standards in the dating arena.

~Zappa
 

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You have two problems which are holding you back. The first is that you haven't asked anywhere near enough girls out. Going from an AFC to a DJ is not something which happens instantly. YOU HAVE TO DO HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF APPROACHES. I've probably done about 1000 approaches in the past year. I've got rejected so many times I can't count them all. Nine girls is not anywhere near enough. If you are serious about changing your life, you need to make a serious time commitment to it. Do at least 20 approaches a week if you want to get good.

The second problem is that you don't really know what being good with women involves because you haven't seen any guys with incredibly tight game in real life. These guys can teach you a lot. Many of them teach workshops, which are very expensive. Some are crap, some are lifechanging. If you don't have the $$$ to sign up for a workshop, I recommend that you at least meet these guys somehow. Vincent and Dimitri hold free mini-seminars, which is a good way for guys to meet them and see what REAL pick-up artists are like.

If you'd like more info on this stuff, PM me.

-Dan
 

SageOFAllenAge

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Hey DM , do you have MSN ?, if so add me at [email protected]

Today I called up this chick who keeps snakes in her house, seemed pretty interesting met her at this programme for the welfare of stray dogs ..chatted her up & got her #no.

Unfortunately shes 24 (Im 21) & shes got a guy .. heh oh well Onwards & Upwards!

BTW YOUR MAILBOX IS FULL ..:woo:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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