"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Wow, many of you should read this

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This one is for the keyboard jockeys...

If you have posted more on pickup forums than opened sets, turn off the computer and start meeting people. Seriously. The field is the best instructor there is. Go out there and socialize. If you get stuck, that when it's time to crack open a book or check out the forums. For everything else, seriously, get your butt out of the house and meet some women!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Wow, you're so original, but there's something familiar about this. I can't quite put my finger on it though. It's almost as if I've seen this post a million times before.
 

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If it wasn't worth repeating, I wouldn't have posted it.

Also, your post is trollish and lacks value. I suggest looking inward and working on your inner game. There's no reason besides low self-esteem for lashing out and tearing down others to feel better about yourself. Be a 10 instead of a 7.

In case you have no idea what I'm talking about in regards to the 10 and 7, check out these podcasts, specifically episodes 50, 53, and 54:

http://pickuppodcast.com/blogv2/tag/art-of-charm/

Just scroll down until you find them. If they roll off that page as they add more podcasts either go back a couple pages or check out these individual links in the blog:

Value Part 1
http://pickuppodcast.com/blogv2/2008/04/19/episode-50-advanced-toolbox-value-part-1/

Value Part 2
http://pickuppodcast.com/blogv2/2008/05/18/episode-53-advanced-toolbox-value-part-2/

Value Part 3
http://pickuppodcast.com/blogv2/2008/05/18/episode-54-advanced-toolbox-value-part-3/

Sadly you need to create an account in order to check out the blog pages. The first one I posted above though is public and you can listen to them from there. The benefit of logging into the site and going into the blog page itself is because from there you can actually download the episodes and take them with you. Granted you can do the same thing from iTunes for free as well.

Like they say at the start of most episodes, check out the first 5 or 10 episodes they did to get a good foundation and feel for how they operate, and so you get the context of what they're always talking about.
 
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haha. Wow dude. My inner game? riiiiigggggghhttttt. Listen bud, my self-esteem is high and my confidence has never been better. If anything, I've got delusions of grandeur. Low self-esteem is very far off.

Anyways, I don't care what you say about me 'cause your opinion of me, or anyone else's really, doesn't matter to me.

My reply to this thread was a reference to the fact that EVERYONE is saying exactly what you're saying now. A lot of people here are just riding off the coat-tails of the guy who first thought it up. And there's no actual proof that anyone is doing this anyways. The guy who first thought of it probably used to be a keyboard jockey himself and just assumed that everyone else was the same. Then, when he actually started going out and doing things, he lashed back at the guys who he thought (they may or may not be) were still were keyboard jockeys.

Yes. We get it. There's a very real possibility that there are some people on this site who sit at their computers all day and do nothing more than read the advice offered here. Stop pretending that you actually care. All this is at the most basic level is you trying to leave your mark. You want the feeling that you're helping people- that you're doing what's right. Sh*t, you may not even know it, but it's true. You don't really care about these guys, you're doing it for yourself. And how could you care? You don't even know them!

So don't come here with your unoriginal ideas and righteous sense of self then preach to me about how people you don't know and couldn't possible care about should get off their asses and make something of themselves. Who are you to tell them what to do. If they want to be failures in the eyes of society, then it's their choice.

Your message only needed to be said once, and it was. Now for anyone out there who still doesn't quite get his message, I will repeat it One. Last. Time.

If what you truly seek is self-improvement, social acceptance and women, then this is the place for you, BUT, remember, all we can provide here is the means, the rest is up to you. So read up on everything we have to offer, but know that you will never really improve unless you learn to apply the knowledge you are given. That means going out and exercising. That means going out and spinning plates, gaming chicks, doing sets- all that stuff. It means going out and learning to be the best damn YOU you can be! And if you want to be a keyboard jockey and not benefit from this knowledge, then that's your choice. In my opinion, a stupid one, but it's your choice none the less.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I want everyone to see this. I want this whole idea of attacking the keyboard jockeys to be resolved completely. This will be the only time I bump this.
 

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TheEdgeOf said:
Isn't the need of having to point out that you have high self esteem, and that you don't care what other people think of you, as well as writing a big wall of text that almost no ones going to read, then also actually bump the post - isn't all that signs of someone with extremely low self esteem?
 

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The first little paragraph is the only one defending my self esteem. The rest of the wall is more of an attack to the op. And the last paragraph is the (hopefully) final time this point will be made. Anyway, enough people have seen this thread so it's about time to let it die. You can keep posting here if you want to, but I've said what I have to say. I'm done with this thread.
 
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TheEdgeOf said:
haha. Wow dude. My inner game? riiiiigggggghhttttt. Listen bud, my self-esteem is high and my confidence has never been better. If anything, I've got delusions of grandeur. Low self-esteem is very far off.

Anyways, I don't care what you say about me 'cause your opinion of me, or anyone else's really, doesn't matter to me.

My reply to this thread was a reference to the fact that EVERYONE is saying exactly what you're saying now. A lot of people here are just riding off the coat-tails of the guy who first thought it up. And there's no actual proof that anyone is doing this anyways. The guy who first thought of it probably used to be a keyboard jockey himself and just assumed that everyone else was the same. Then, when he actually started going out and doing things, he lashed back at the guys who he thought (they may or may not be) were still were keyboard jockeys.

Yes. We get it. There's a very real possibility that there are some people on this site who sit at their computers all day and do nothing more than read the advice offered here. Stop pretending that you actually care. All this is at the most basic level is you trying to leave your mark. You want the feeling that you're helping people- that you're doing what's right. Sh*t, you may not even know it, but it's true. You don't really care about these guys, you're doing it for yourself. And how could you care? You don't even know them!

So don't come here with your unoriginal ideas and righteous sense of self then preach to me about how people you don't know and couldn't possible care about should get off their asses and make something of themselves. Who are you to tell them what to do. If they want to be failures in the eyes of society, then it's their choice.

Your message only needed to be said once, and it was. Now for anyone out there who still doesn't quite get his message, I will repeat it One. Last. Time.

If what you truly seek is self-improvement, social acceptance and women, then this is the place for you, BUT, remember, all we can provide here is the means, the rest is up to you. So read up on everything we have to offer, but know that you will never really improve unless you learn to apply the knowledge you are given. That means going out and exercising. That means going out and spinning plates, gaming chicks, doing sets- all that stuff. It means going out and learning to be the best damn YOU you can be! And if you want to be a keyboard jockey and not benefit from this knowledge, then that's your choice. In my opinion, a stupid one, but it's your choice none the less.
the whole point of the website is to give advice to people. whether or not the person genuinely cares or whether they are doing so because giving advice makes them feel good (something you are trying to paint as somehow morally wrong) doesn't matter. it's always good for newbs to have a reminder to get in field as a lot of people do get sidetracked and read too much.
 

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Nutz said:
This one is for the keyboard jockeys...

If you have posted more on pickup forums than opened sets, turn off the computer and start meeting people. Seriously. The field is the best instructor there is. Go out there and socialize. If you get stuck, that when it's time to crack open a book or check out the forums. For everything else, seriously, get your butt out of the house and meet some women!
Sometimes when people makes posts like these, they try and motivate themselves more than anybody else. :D just a thought ;)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yah. get out and live! always a good message regardless of the messenger.
 
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