"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Wow, I fvcked up pretty bad tonight

HeyPachuco!

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Came as a shock, I kinda AFC'ed tonight. Long story short, 4 of us, me and my buddies. Got into a Club about 2 hours before it was closing, there was groups of 4 sets, 3 sets and 2 sets mostly. Extremely loud Club, I couldnt hear a word anyone was saying.

Song comes on, standing next to this HB7 with my Heineken in hand, was standing next to her for about 10 minutes, she gave lots of IOI's so I figured I should make the shot,

HeyPachuco - *Love takes over by Kelly Rowland comes on *, "This is our song, you ready" (I show my hand out at the dancefloor and smile)

Girl: Huh!,

HeyPachuco - *Without leaning in* " I said this is our song, ARE YOU READY (body rocking at this time)

Girl: Ahah, my feet hurt

HeyPachuco: Aaha, is that an excuse for, I can't dance?

Girl: Hah no really, my feet hurt, but after you (meaning go dance by yourself) Then she proceeds to talk to her friend.

After the look she gave me, I didn't bother even trying to close, I knew what the outcome was from the get go. Anyone that says 90% Body language in a Club trumps loud music is Bullsh!tting because then it would be alright to be partially disabled (hearing impairments) right?

I won't say I give up, because I only approached ONE SET the whole night. Which resulted in me being hesistant to approach any other sets. I lost confidence and it screwed up my thinking not to approach any other girls due to DHV situations. Very cheesy attempt, I know, I dont feel sorry for myself, but I felt I could've performed better. Since last week all my buds saw me get into a cab with a Brazilian Hottie including a Number Close from some other chick and F-close to this week getting blown out and no numbers.

Anyone that had or has success within "Club Game" or "SNL's", please feel free to throw some stuff to the table lol.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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yeah that was only one girl. go skull a beer then carry on next time!
 

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SharinganUser said:
I fail to see the part where you ****ed up pretty badly. Don't be so hard on yourself.
Its what I was doing that effed up, I was being a Chump, 3 second ruling was for beginners and thats exactly how I felt, I couldn't grasp my approach anxiety within the 3 seconds. I mean, there was plenty of girls I took interest in, but the atmosphere just wasnt "approachable material". Either they where dancing and somehow you'd have to merge into sets whilst dancing or just directly open infront of a bunch of ready-to-heckle onlookers.

Effing up on my part was where I stood there contemplating on what to say for over 10 minutes, and that burned out my whole last hour in the club. I've been to this club twice, its a real high-energy environment, I havent really seen anyone approaching girls there, except for dancing with chicks and knowing them beforehand (social circles).

The first thing I do is go straight to the bar and order some drinks, I dont even look at the room *looking like I've got to be somewhere*, then we find a space (usually at the back or on a side corner) and "observe". Its hard to tell if girls are actually giving you IOI's or just observing.

Where are the threads on Club Game or loud high energy clubs ?
 

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Look man, everyone has an off night. If you aren't getting a good vibe from the club, then don't go there, or atleast don't go there without inviting a lady friend you just met at another bar the same night.

Take this from someone who used to have approach anxiety so bad it would actually stop me from physically moving close to the woman. You have to keep working on overcoming that fear, and if you have a few off nights, which you will, you just have to chalk it up to a learning experience and keep moving forward. Don't let it get to you.

Also, don't worry about if a woman is giving you IOI's or not, if you want something, just go for it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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