"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Would you use a coupon on a date?

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So all of you have probably at one time or another taken a girl out to eat whether it be Taco Bell or a fancy 5 star place.

Now let's say that in the Sunday paper you saw a coupon for a free appetizer with the purchase of 2 entrees, or $6 off of 2, or better yet, $10 off your bill totalling $30 or more. I know we get this magazine here where you have a deal that has like 10 or so places in it, and at the back it gives you a coupon for $10 off $30.

The question is though... How many of you would use anything like the above in front of a woman on a date?

Is it NEVER ok to do that cause you look cheap, or does it look like you pay attention to what is out there, and that you read, and you know how to budget and save.

Is it ok to do that after the first date or when you have been dating a while?

Thoughts? Have you used them before, and what was the ladies thought on this, or have you never done it before.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I had a friend bring a girl to the soup kitchen on a date. Its all about how you handle yourself. (He was successful in banging her and having her fall madly in love with him)
 

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Agree with MacAvoy: it is all up to you. If you think you'd appear cheap, then don't take coupons with you on dates. Mind you, some girls actually would find it more attractive to have a man keep coupon for a date.
 

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I'd use a coupon. Why? Because I want to. I don't care what she thinks because I have nothing to gain or prove. She will have to show me value in herself. I don't have to show value because I value myself and that's what matters most.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Does it really matter? Coupons are coupons dude. I dont think she'd give a fvck. You read too much into things ;)
If your that insecure, have her go to the door, while you pay and give the coupons. No biggie.
 

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If you use that 10 off 30 coupon, leave the 10 as the tip.

Always tip well; it is a sign of class. If you can't afford to pay for service, don't go to places where you are expected to tip. A lot of women have had service sector jobs and will appreciate this quality in a man. What your original question hints at is being thought of as "cheap." Coupons and penny pinching can make you look cheap, tipping well will compensate.

All of us have different amounts of money in our pockets, and it goes up and down throughout life. You have to find your own balance of living well versus obsessing about money. A lot of fairly wealthy people got that way by being cheap ass misers about everything. Rich or poor, it is about balance.
 

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SilverSonnet said:
Does it really matter? Coupons are coupons dude. I dont think she'd give a fvck. You read too much into things ;)
If your that insecure, have her go to the door, while you pay and give the coupons. No biggie.
Not really. I've used them before, and I call myself the master of coupons. lol. When I was living in another state on my own, I saved hella money at the store. I think one time I saved 60% on my grocery bill. I was just asking what others thought. :up:

I had a girl say once... That's so awesome... you have a coupon. She chuckled a little and goes... Money saved is money saved. I'd be using one too if I had one.
 

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It's incongruent with being a class act.

In her eyes, it will appear cheap. Doesn't make for a good first impression, period. Doesn't matter that you think you're so full of value because when you pull miserly crap like that, you show that you don't really have what it takes. You only think you do. IOW, you don't walk the walk.

It's like if you showed up with food stains all over your wrinkled shirt. You can think you're great, but the vibe you're sending out is incongruent with that.

Worse yet, a story I heard from a gal where the guy has her split the check down the middle and THEN he produces a "buy one entree, get one free" coupon to pay for his half. IOW, there's only one dinner that needs payment: his. And he got her to agree to pay half of his dinner (before she knew what he was up to).

And the guy wonders why there was no second date.
 

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Depends on many different factors. Your income, ages of both of you (students/professionals, etc.?) the financial bracket of the woman you are dating, etc.

If you are both college students on a budget going to Taco Bell, Subway, etc. it already is cheap, so by all means, take them out, who cares.

If you are a lawyer with a good job, and ask a woman out and it is clear you are there to impress, then taking out coupons will be tacky.

It all depends on the context and where you are in life.
 

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I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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If I have a coupon that tells me...buy one ticket to the Redskins game and get the second one free...or buy a plane ticket to ____ and get the second one free...or come to a 5-start nightclub and get one person free...you can rest assure I would use it. But I will frame things in advance.

Free appetizer? Come on...it is not like you are giving a tip for service in a Taco Bell.

If I was already having sex with the woman or I have established myself as a man that is not cheap...then I would not care.

First impressions are important. Even among friends and co-workers.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
If you use that 10 off 30 coupon, leave the 10 as the tip.

Always tip well; it is a sign of class. If you can't afford to pay for service, don't go to places where you are expected to tip. A lot of women have had service sector jobs and will appreciate this quality in a man. What your original question hints at is being thought of as "cheap." Coupons and penny pinching can make you look cheap, tipping well will compensate.

All of us have different amounts of money in our pockets, and it goes up and down throughout life. You have to find your own balance of living well versus obsessing about money. A lot of fairly wealthy people got that way by being cheap ass misers about everything. Rich or poor, it is about balance.
I totally agree with this.

It also applies if you are among friends or business partners. You will be surprise how my opinion has changed CONSIDERABLY on others that simply do not tip well. If I consider a man cheap and unfair...then I have NO trust for him (as a friend or business partner or peer).
 

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I seldom use coupons but only because I seldom come across coupons for the places that I go. Now if I had a coupon I'd use it and would probably make a big c/f deal about it.
"Hey, I found a coupon for all the cheddar biscuits you can eat at Red Lobster, wanna come and help me blow it?"

or at the restaurant:
"I was going to save these free appetizer coupons for a wedding gift for my best friend but this seems to be a special enough occasion so why not splurge?"



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Either way, make it absurdly funny and she'll get a kick out of it. If she doesn't, you just may be with a woman who wants a guy who's primarily a provider.

Oh, and "no," I don't take dates to Red Lobster, coupons or not.:cool:
 

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uhh, I assume this is a new chick if you're worried about that. Also I'll assume it's not a five-star resturant if you have coupons. I doubt it'll matter. If she has the nerve to say something, look at her and say, "would you like to take care of this?"
 

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Rex Man said:
uhh, I assume this is a new chick if you're worried about that. Also I'll assume it's not a five-star resturant if you have coupons. I doubt it'll matter. If she has the nerve to say something, look at her and say, "would you like to take care of this?"
How old are you?
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Rex Man said:
I'm your junior if that's what you mean. Why?
Are you 15, 18, 22, 25, 30, 35?

Honest question. Not critisizing or anything.
 

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Rex Man said:
uhh, I assume this is a new chick if you're worried about that. Also I'll assume it's not a five-star resturant if you have coupons. I doubt it'll matter. If she has the nerve to say something, look at her and say, "would you like to take care of this?"
No, not a chick at all. Just a mere question I thought I would ask. Now I dont take a woman on a first date and use a coupon. That's tacky.

But if I was dating a girl a long time, and I said... Hey hun, you know that dinner magazine they have? They have a coupon in there for $10 off your favorite restaurant.

She may say... WOW, I love that place, lets take advantage of that coupon.

And yes, there are coupons for 4 and 5 star places in a certain magazine where I live. You normally pay for the magazine, but sometimes you get it free.
 

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there are coupons for 4 and 5 star places in a certain magazine where I live
Well i stand corrected, I guess different places different stuff. Ok, if it's GIRLFRIEND who cares??? Surely if you pick a good girl with a good head on her shoulders you shouldn't have to concern yourself with something so trivial.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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