"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Would you mind friends or strangers laughing at you?

randomshinichi

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Disclaimer: This has nothing to do with girls.

I ask this because I'm not very sure where to set the line. Personally I feel worse when friends laugh at me, and I feel nothing when relative strangers laugh at me. But recently I did something rather embarassing in public (brought a skateboard to school without riding it very well, also I'm a bit old for what seems to be a teen oriented sport). I'm not even sure if I should be embarassed for what I did! But all my peers laughed at me, including my friends. Incredibly enough, nobody laughed at me when I was making a complete fool of myself in the park with the board. Grandparents egged me on, no doubt because they see relatively little difference between a teen and a twentysomething. The guy who sold me the board and told me how to ride/stop it said "don't give up". Even two girls stood on the balcony and tried to strike up a conversation with me, although I was a bit too self absorbed to bother extending the conversation to determine if they were laughing at me or not (wait, isn't that just an extremely unhealthy frame of mind?).

What's even more surprising was that when I talked with one friend later, he practically expected to be laughed at by his friends if he did such a thing himself. I thought friends weren't supposed to laugh at each other? Also another friend quite obviously moved one seat away from me after smelling the sweat that I worked up from trying to balance on the skateboard. I would never do that to a friend, mostly because (I expect) it would hurt a friend's feelings if I moved away from him for such a trivial reason. Maybe I'm just not used to the Western people's idea of "friendship"? Or are they all actually just bad friends?

But you cannot make people stop laughing at you. As far as I know, you can only prevent that. So I can't really see anything to be done here. What would you do?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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randomshinichi

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Sorry, the other forums don't look like a better fit either. Move it if you like, but I'm still expecting an answer.
 

Zodiac

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I don't like it but its one of those things that just happen considering I tend to laugh at my friends or even at strangers.

Answer this question truthfully: "If you saw a stranger or friend do something stupid like trip over a rock, drop whatever they are holding, act like an idiot, etc... (Pretty much something you think is funny) would you laugh?" If you said yes then you have your answer pretty much.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Tortendieb

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When I was at school, if one of my friends had come on a skateboard and tried to be cool while failing horribly at that, I would have laughed too.

If then I see he's really serious about bringing his board and learning to ride I shut up and maybe even support him. If you change somthing people are going to react man. Show some persistance and they'll adapt, because their opinion can't stop you.
 

BadNews

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Dont take yourself so seriously. Laugh at yourself. Who cares if people laugh at you...cant let it bother you.
 

Slickster

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Dude you are never too old to do anything.

I showed up at my 20 year grad reunion riding a skateboard. I'm not even a hard core skater. I just didn't want to drive home drunk. People laughed at me. I laughed with them. It was awesome.

If your friends are laughing then try some stupid kick flip or some other trick that you can't really do. Play it up real good. Get some laughs and show that you don't give a sh!t about them laughing.

If you are truly having fun then who cares.
 

SashaPUA

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Bro - I make people who have AA do stupid **** all the time, just to warm up.

Next time you do that - take it further. Fall right off an land on your face. MAke an arse out of yourself. LAUGH AT YourSELF!!

Say "Hey! I'm a professional! Who wants lessons?? 100 bucks an hour!"

or "That's right, i'm a superstar. Don't be jealous!!!"

HAVE FUN. ACCEPT YOU ARE A ****ING DOUCHE and ROLL WITH IT.

As soon as they see YOU'RE having fun and you're MAKING FUN of yourself, it takes their power away. they can do nothing.

you with me? good ;)
 

BigJimbo

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SashaPUA said:
Bro - I make people who have AA do stupid **** all the time, just to warm up.

Next time you do that - take it further. Fall right off an land on your face. MAke an arse out of yourself. LAUGH AT YourSELF!!

Say "Hey! I'm a professional! Who wants lessons?? 100 bucks an hour!"

or "That's right, i'm a superstar. Don't be jealous!!!"

HAVE FUN. ACCEPT YOU ARE A ****ING DOUCHE and ROLL WITH IT.

As soon as they see YOU'RE having fun and you're MAKING FUN of yourself, it takes their power away. they can do nothing.

you with me? good ;)
I feel ya. I be breeding this s--- in my sleep. Playing it real. Keep hitting us up with some real jive and juice.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Jon55

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You guys come here asking for advice on getting women or being a man and yet you can't even post to the correct sub-forum. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously if you're too lazy to even get that right?
 
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